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I do not have one but the Insteon 2441ZTH sends temperature information. I believe a remote wired probe is available for it also. Runs on batteries or optional wallwart. Note: The "Z" in the model number. http://www.aartech.ca/search/search_query/2441ZTH in Canada http://www.smarthome.com/2441ZTH/INSTEON-Wireless-Thermostat/p.aspx

IMHO the Hub is not Home Automation. It is Home remote and local control. It will do timers and scenes (grouping devices to be synchronised). The Hub can be controlled by various PC software to do conditional logic but more cost and a PC left on 24/7. The ISY consumes 2-3 Watts and is tiny. Mine sits on top of a surface mount electrical outlet box where it is plugged in. The ISY can do conditional logic like. If it is 6:00 PM and Wed, Fri, or Sat AND House_is_occupied Then Set Furnace_Fan On Wait 20 minutes Set Furnace_Fan Off If you like to challenge yourself with logic and programming the ISY is the one to get. You will also need to get a PLM 2413S to make the ISY talk to Insteon devices, another $80. Remote control via your smart phone can be done with it also.

From what I have read in this forum (mine is still in the package), others are having the same problem. The sensors need dirtier water to trigger them as pure water is an insulator. The sensor should work fine placed on concrete or with a dirty water leak. Try some salt or baking soda in your test water.

I use nine X10 MSs and one Insteon MS. I use counting programmes when each unit reports a change to Dark or Not Dark. This allows me to use the value to access how dark the house is. eg. on cloudy days etc. Some units report 'Not Dark' with a small amount of sky light (cloudy or overcast) and some take full sunlight in the sky. The increment and decrement programmes need to have a minimum value of 0 and a maximum value of about three less units than are working. This allows for dead units, missed reports, and units that are never exposed to sunlight in the room. Those could also be cut out of the accumulation process. The end values saturate at times and keep the values in check, mostly when it is completely dark the value is always 0. I am not using this scheme with my ISY, as yet, but it did work quite well on an older X10 system to gauge how much water to put on a newly seeded lawn. On cloudy or rainy days the sprinklers got 1 min shots maybe twice per day. On bright sunny days the sprinklers got 3 min shots of water almost every hour. The seed grew amazingly fast that a neighbour even came over and commented about it.

I don't have an ISY connected stat yet so there may be issues I don't understand but.. I would think you could have a main temperature set and an offset temperature (+/- 2deg etc.) A programme, as suggested above could change your offset when an outside threshold is crossed (above and below 15 degrees). Resultant temperatures would always be written or used as base + offset. Use state variables for offset so that changes would invoke a programme to reprogram the stat with the new temperature set independently of your main logic, simplifying that software.

Again too bad. If UDI put an interface to the Insteon Hub it could be their entrance into the European market and that serial port could disappear as it is all done over Etherrnet and would open many more way to access home control.

$sLeakLaundryRoom must be a "State" variable to cause a trigger and the programme must have the enable checkbox checked

Careful of your parenthesis placement. The 7:01 and 9:31 times are the only ones getting ANDed with the WH_Status. You should get notifications at all other times listed. Boolean AND takes higher precedent of order over an OR usually.

Unfortunate ISY's future in Europe is dependant on a device manufactured by a company that probably doesn't want the ISY to exist at all.

Try this one http://isy/admin.jnlp It installed the nice direct, via Java icon on my desktop so I don't have to go through the browser load each time. This is the way the old one worked. Works much better.

Thanks! I got the reciprocal links our of the two modules. I am not sure what the side effect from it was or how it got there, but as a newbie trying to understand what a link is, the extra links were very confusing. An ON/OFF module I have only shows one link and that would seem to indicate the RF didn't link, even in the same room. The LampLinc was a problem to factory reset. That flow chart was very confusing. Right side up helped. It would be real nice if Insteon supplied real information with their modules instead of a sheet with "Plug in! Look! It turns on and off! They're wonderful!"

Excellent news! Here's hoping!

I wouldn't have thought X10 addresses would show up in the links table. This is the only possibility I can think of for my modules. They may have been linked to a same X10 address at some point in experimentation time. I have never created or used a scene with Insteon/X10 and they (two modules linked) have never been in the same room physically or software wise. In my case they don't interoperate, though.

I got thinking and doubting myself on this one. I began to wonder if I forgot to enable the programme when I ran the tests so I re-ran the test ensuring that the enable was on. It functioned the same with NO triggers of Then or Else occurring, and the programme remained False the whole time, when the From/To times were crossed.

I also have two modules, a LampLinc and an On/Off module with reciprocal links in them. The ISY links agree with the modules so restore doesn't remove them. I haven't noticed any ill effects from this lately. Is this a problem? The LampLinc module is a long distance, on different floor levels, and the On/Off would be half way to the PLM for it. Do hops affect these link tables?

Thanks! and Thanks!

Thanks again! Where is the list (above) of setup parameters being found? In short: is some other hardware or software needed to read temperature out of the 2441(Z)TH units or is this straight Insteon to the ISY?

Thank you LeeG !! Qs. - Does the 241ZTH (I see you have one) report the same (used just as a temp and humidity sensor)? - Can programmes do conditionals based on these analogue values similar to a variable? - How are fractional degree values handled? - Where is the setup parameters code being found?

I would be paralleling every line signal line and 24vac power (R,G,W1-2,O etc..) to ground at the furnace terminals where the ©ommon is tied to the case of the furnace with a 24vac MOV. The DC rating would be about a 48 vdc (28vac x 1.414 x 120%) to absorb any spikes on the waveforms. Do not extend the lead lengths! May have to put threaded grounding screws/terminals all along for connection. A/C hasn't been involved yet so it could be done later, if it works. OK, with them and a ferrite bead on each wire and it still does it, where is the trash can?

I didn't state my question clearly enough and subject to misinterpretation or maybe it was my Canuck accent, eh? "Can you read the analogue value of the temperature inside the ISY? Not just the binary status points but the real actual analogue value in some form of degrees." To clarify my Q: Can you read the actual temperature reading from inside the ISY that was transmitted from the 2441TH? Is it only whole number degrees or are there decimal places implied?

Too bad on all counts there. My next and last try was the ferrite beads on all the lines but easy access to them would be a necessity and lowest risk. Sounds like the support tech was another "know a bit" type. At least they didn't get you to unplug your fridge and spin around three times like some read off their scripted "fix" software. The Venstar units are a big jump in price from what I see. I just want something as a temperature sensor, so maybe you can tell me this since I have searched for several days , without success, repeatedly on this point: (I am going to spell funny ) Can you read the analogue value of the temperature inside the ISY? Not just the binary status points but the real actual analogue value in some form of degrees.

Neither "Then" nor "Else" runs as evidenced by my chime labelled "Furnace Fan" that didn't beep. If From 9:06:00AM To 9:05:00AM (same day) Then Set 'Testing / Furnace Fan' On Else Set 'Testing / Furnace Fan' On

In the User Guide for the ISY v4.0.5 (pg. 15/102) there is a URL that installs a cute Java app/icon on your desktop and further avoids the three successive logins asked in some other entry methods. http://isy.universal-devices.com/99i/admin.jnlp It sure would be nice to have an updated one for Java 7/51 and V4.1.2

I use X10 motion sensors and the first thing I do on motion is to hit the LampLinc modules with a FastON command in the ISY. That overrides the slow ramp ON. I cannot stand having a bulb slow ramp up in the trigger programme when motion is detected in a completely dark room. I love the slow ramp OFF, though. I have a Sunbeam 7W, 3000K, LED bulb (from Costco) on a LampLinc dimmer plug-in and it ramps up and down quite smoothly. There may be a bit of a jump from 0% to very dim when starting but no flickering at all. From what I have seen and read the cheaper and early designed LED bulbs have more problems with it. I have no wall mounted devices yet.

Yeah, do the best you can even if the foil splits and you get some individual wrapping of wires. Make sure of no contact or proximity to the bare wires and terminals. I am guessing but... the ignition will be a high-voltage discharge like a spark plug on a car, right? This creates all kinds of radio waves from the little antenna going from the transformer to the spark plug discharges the high voltage as a spark. Sparks and lightning over-discharge and then some ricochets back to the source in an attempt to equalise charges. This creates a high frequency ringing back and forth trying to find equilibrium. (think electron inertia). High frequency doesn't like to follow insulation properties and it bleeds to everything. Some wires going to your thermostat get this RF induced into them and attempt to find their way to ground, getting back to their source, through your thermostat. It's all theory, at this point, until it works, then it was the facts! Don't give up! It sounds like you are a stubborn SOB and that is good here.