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Tried and failed. Again. And, again, I ask: has anyone actually seen "z-wave" as a link option and, if so, what devices do you have, brand and model.

I have not used z-wave fan controls, but am hopeful that they would work similarly to Insteon. Rather than getting a switch that is a fan control, consider a z-wave fan control that fits in the fixture box. Get a control for each fan, and link all to a z-wave switch to control the fan and/or lights. Unfortunately, my experience leads me to believe that the scenes between z-wave devices will be through the ISY rather than, like Insteon, directly between switch and fan modules. Still, I think this could work.

I have set up a dummy scene to see if I could get this to work. Controller is a custom "button press" node I added (existing nodes could not be added as a controller) and responder is, as you suggested, an added "basic" node. Screen shot provided below. As I have mentioned in other topics I have never seen the option to have a z-wave association, and this is no exception. I am willing to accept the possibility that my particular devices don't have the ability for direct association, but my question remains: has anyone actually seen a z-wave device that works with ISY associations and, if so, what brand and model are they?

Here is one of my devices, I believe it to be a GE switch. I could not get all the info into a single screen shot. The second pair pictures are from a Leviton switch. I have tried experimenting with combinations of nodes from these types of switches to create a scene that was a z-wave association. I have never succeeded. The current scenes in which these two are included are NOT the results of my experiments and also include Insteon devices.

I recall this option being under the "scene" action, rather than individual device. This action has definitely changed over the years and software builds.

I cannot even find an instance of this on any from the sample of zwave devices I just checked. I am on software 5.3.2. Not sure if this matters.

My experience is just like that of kzboray: I have a limited number of z-wave devices, but I have experimented with several of them trying to create a scene in which the "association" or "z-wave" option was available. The ONLY link type options I have seen with z-wave devices within a scene are "command", "default", or "ignore". I have tried creating temporary scenes with only two zwave devices. For those scenes, I have tried the "basic" scene nodes, the "basic scene Ctl 2" nodes, "basic scene Ctl 3" nodes, and the nodes created from the ISY menu "add button press node". I have tried various combinations of those types of nodes from two z-wave devices and still have not seen anything other than "command", "default", or "ignore" link types. The devices I have used for these experiments are from GE (Jasco, I guess) and Leviton. All z-wave devices used here have been either a switch or an outlet. I asked at each opportunity: has anyone seen a "z-wave" link type within an ISY scene and, if so, what brand z-wave devices are you using?

That is how I did it, as well. All Devices. Once device. Any combination of any devices.

??? I have amazon routines that are announcements, but don’t use IFTTT. What am I missing?

They are potentially in the user manual or wiki. I did not check. X10 can be used as a program condition or action. I am on ISY software version 5.3.something and x-10 is an option in the drop-down boxes used when creating programs, just like any other condition or action. I don't specifically recall earlier versions of the ISY software, but I don't think this approach has changed much over the years.

While I consider the optional x-10 module "unecessary" (x-10 on the ISY is fully functional without it), the module does make x-10 a little easier to use. Without the module, x-10 commands are issued by programs using house code and number. The optional module allows one to name a given house code/number combination and add that name to the device list. Without the module, one cannot add an x-10 with to the list of devices.

If you want the other switch to respond to commands from the switch called "kitchenspot", add the other switch to a scene to the scene "kitchenmain", as a responder.

The only thing that is coming to mind right now is the possibility that you are using a password from your old isy that does not apply to your new polisy-based ISY. To be clear, default login credentials for new isy are: admin/ admin. Is that what you have in the polisy settings?

I don't know if it is, simply, that I don't have the correct zwave devices or whether it is a bug in the ISY software or something else. I would sure like to hear of someone who has actually seen those options on their ISY and which zwave devices they use.

None of my zwave devices in scenes include such options, unfortunately. In the varios threads on this, I do not recall anyone claiming to have seen this option.

I know I use them a LOT. I get a few misfires from time-to-time, but not anywhere near enough to be a problem.

This is consistent with my understanding regarding direct commands (device-to-device) but I understand this not to be the case with scenes. I suspect that is the point being made by larryllix.

I don't know that there is anything added to the main page that would result from having a network resource. Of course, any network resource that you add would show up under the "configuration" tab of the admin console>>>network tab>>>network resources. Once you create a working network resource, they are available only by invoking by programs. They can be added to a program via action: networking>>>resource>>>pick-the-one-you-want.

Not true, but it might be easier if you did. You would need the hue hub, in addition to any hue devices. If you did not have a Polisy, you would control hue bulbs via a "network resource", which is an add-on (download the software) to the ISY. Once you have the network module downloaded, you would need to create a network resource for any action you would like to take regarding the bulb. One resource to turn on. One resource to turn off. Resources for any color or brightness change. There would be a learning curve and time commitment to this approach. If you had the Polisy, you would avoid the network resource approach and add a "node server" for the hue hub. I think of the node server as the intermediary between the hue hub and ISY. The node server syncs and communicates with the hue hub and, on the other end, the ISY. Once the node server is in place, the ISY list of devices would include any hue bulb that you have and you could then use in programs and scenes just as you would with any other Insteon or z-wave device.

No. Best option I can think is to identify a device within that scene that would only come on when the scene is on (however you define this) and go off only when the scene is off. Use that device as a condition in your program.

If your lights are dimmable and compatible with the fanlinc (and it sounds as if they are) then this would work as well. I have seen multiple mentions around here about how dimmer devices can modify the waveform of the electrical power, even full on, that it might have the potential for damage to loads that are not dimmable. But...it sounds as if this is not a concern in your case. Sure. I cannot think of any reason why not.

Where is the electrical box in which the inlinelinc is installed? Would it be a problem to replace the inlinelinc with an Insteon switch? Would a switch in this location be a visual or functional problem? The fanlinc is a dimmer control. Would this be an issue for your existing lighting?

Repair your old ones, or Ebay, or something like that. I have two spares, so I am hoping that will last me long enough, but for many devices I am moving to zwave and may try lutron in the future. I believe those to be wifi antennas. Technically, I do not believe that "Polisy" works with zwave or zigbee (or Insteon PLM). All work, however, with the ISY-994. Of course, you can now run the ISY software on the Polisy box, so perhaps that is what you ask. Z-wave will run on ISY-994 without a PLM. I believe the same to be true with zigbee, though I am uncertain whether there is zigbee support on a Polisy-hosted ISY-994 or whether this is limited to the dedicated ISY-994 hardware. I don't believe that zigbee and z-wave can be used simultaneously. I also understand that support for zigbee devices to be relatively limited.

No, I did not think so. It sounds as if you have looked at options and are making an informed decision. Good luck and enjoy.

I must admit to being curious what you think Hubitat can do with Z-wave that the ISY cannot? It sounded as if you have decided to avoid using the ISY mobile app. To be thorough, which app (there are three or four, if I recall) do you view as too complicated? Are you using habitat for Alexa integration of z-wave devices and integration with mobile devices? Sure sounds to me as if you are creating quite the complicated setup.