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I'm on-the-line. The stories I've read here say that the ecobee can do a lot of functionality on its own with no programming. There's some appeal to that. RIght now if I buy a refurb Ecobee, they offer 2 of their door sensors at a decent discount. That's the next-to-top smart thermostat, a remote sensor and 2 entry sensors for south of $200... hard to say no. At the same time, I am really comfortable with the insteons.

@Hoosier Daddy One more question. The comment that occupancy reporting takes a while, that suggests that the sensor network is managed by polling vs interrupt/signaling from the sensor?

@Hoosier Daddy This helps a lot. In my previous home I had the Venstar colortouches and venlink/nodelink... the reporting and control for the ecobee look very similar. Now there are more questions 🤪, but they are ecobee specific and I need to look/read a little more. Thank you.

I'm looking at an ecobee stat. I want to monitor one door and window with a sensor to shut the AC down when either is left open, and also be aware of them being opened when traveling. I know how to do this with Insteon wireless open/close sensors, my question is can I access the same information from ecobee smartsensor for doors and windows with this node server? It would help to have screenshots of the AC for this plugin

I have an eisy. the upgrade itself went fine. Two things to note: Notifications stopped coming to my android phone and ipad via UDM.. Haven't had a chance to diagnose it yet. I happened to run the upgrade about 1.5 hours before my yard lights off program ran. They ran on the reboot of the iSY and the "catch up window" is the default and much shorter than that. I don't think this is specifically related to this upgrade

Sorry about the frustration. More physical investigation is in order Was the house originally designed for smart switches, or the owner that installed the switches wasn't the orginal builder? In addition to the switches you can see, there may be Insteon inline or micro modules behind fixtures Have you looked near the electrical panel for the hub/isy/controller? The switches are older, possibly powerline only - and the electrical panel is the center of the Insteon powerline network To the comment(s) already made above, you should see if you can work around the problem to use the house Buy a few regular switches from the hardware store Pick a few switches in key areas causing the most pain. Factory reset the switch - here the manual, look at the bottom of page 14 (printed page #) Did that work so the light switches on Yes - move along to the next No - replace with a regular switch Repeat on another key switch

I just got an eisy and added dusk/dawn programs and had programs not function 100% using the "Time" command. The way to check out what's happening is to go to the program tab, and then click the Summary sub-tab to the left. That provides a list of programs and run dates/times... including the Next run. See what next run says for these programs. I had problems there that vanished, but arguably I was making changes at the same time. One of the things I saw was that the Next run for some of my programs using the time command was that the scheduled day was the next day... this was in the am, 8 hours or more before dusk

The motion sensor can be set to send an "on" to a device or scene when it detects motion, and then sends an "off" after a specified amount of time. You'll need to look at the manual for 2842-222 as well as options in the admin console to change the settings. Some things can be set in ISY options and some things are jumper pins on the back..but its not hard to figure out What type of light is it.. regular, LED, fluorescent, low voltage? An unreliable "off" command could be because the light you are turning on is injecting line noise and possibly cause the "off" message to not reach the switch once its turned on...unlikely but possible and easy to eliminate: To test if the load is the problem, remove the light bulbs if possible and retest. If that doesn't solve it, add to your program's then clause, put a 3 second wait at the end, and another turn light off. The motion sensor does this, it sends 2 "Off" commands a few seconds apart

Do you have an eisy and a functioning python dev environment set up to work in? Here are some things to review to get started, assuming you answered "yes", twice, above: There's an python API that defines communication with the eisy resources and formatting of data appropriately: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Developers:API:Python

@IndyMike and @Geddy Thanks for responding The same happened to me Mike... a while after discussing it here, I made some mods, another program I left alone, and they all went to where they should be for Next Scheduled Run!(?). Included in this was no longer having it wait a day to start a new program with a schedule. Calling this one closed, thanks again

Thanks @IndyMike. Could be something that's been there all along and didn't notice or forgot. I'll update it and let it run and see what happens.

Thanks @Techman. I created a new program with only the schedule condition to trigger at dusk minus 30 minutes and no other conditions. Its first "next scheduled runtime" is tomorrow, thursday at 5:53pm, and dusk today day is 5:17, so it will be a few minutes before that. Wondering if you or someone could create a test program like above with the only condition being if time = sunset - 30 minutes, save it and then look at next scheduled runtime. If it doesn't happen on other systems then I'll know it's something specific to me and I'll submit a ticket. Thanks in advance if a couple of people are willing to try that

I'm guessing its dst related, but I'm writing new programs on a new eisy so can't be 100% sure I'm writing programs that look at time. At this point I'm not worried about the one running the next day vs today. The problem is the "next runs" are all times that look correct for before DST took effect.. an hour after the sun has set. The eisy reports the correct DST at the top, but next run is ~1 1/4 hour behind. Am I doing something wrong? The "Lights on at Dusk" program was working as written before the time change Take a look: (Sorry about the eye strain on the last one, it can be "zoomed in on"

I have an eisy with the latest iox. While my system did successfully change time related to DST, I have a problem with this program: Lights on Dusk - [ID 0003][Parent 0002] If Time is Sunset - 30 minutes Or ( 'Premise Lighting / Back Patio Lights - Kitchen' is switched Fast On Or 'Premise Lighting / Back Patio - Living Room' is switched Fast On ) Then Set 'Premise Lighting / Premise Lights' On 75% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') When I look at the program summary tab, it's next scheduled for tomorrow @ sunset - 30, not today. I had this same problem initially when I first set up my eisy.. I wrote this program, earlier in the day, and the "next scheduled run" was the following day... not the day of as it should have been. The problem cleared up after letting it run the following day and its been fine... until DST change. I have 2 time of day programs that shut these lights off at specific times and they are both scheduled appropriately. I just rebooted the eisy, no change.

Looks like you have a 99i? These threads cover some things to try:

Also possible-to-likely is that the new router's ip4 subnet is different than the old router's. Via the mobile app: Settings Systems Pick your isy Scroll down to "local connection settings" Your ip and ports will be listed there

As it's deprecated, the 994 is not receiving updates, including the added ability to support new insteon i3 devices. It requires the eisy.

I'm enjoying using udm... I'm on a several week camping trip and able to check in on eisy.. easily. I'm in the transition period of being less reliant on the AC and learning things I have to do there versus udm My question is about the refresh circular icon at the top right. Operations of the eisy, programs and insteon control/status events, seem to make it to the app on their own and instantly. Some local AC changes like programming updates or insteon network changes don't seem to make it right away and the refresh captures it Is there a time frame for local changes to catch up, or is it best to refresh app instances after making AC changes?

Yeh I'm not going for precise room to room control. As you'd expect, the second floor is off a few degrees from the first; direction depending on the season. With the venstar colortouch, 'averaging' could be selected between the stat and the remote. That helped a lot without doing zone surgery to an existing hvac system, other than a few one time adjustments to the registers and paddles in the ducts. This cut down on the "why is it hotter/colder up hear" comments.

I had venlink that led to nodelink for many years at my previous house. I set everything up, and it just worked including integrated notifications through pushover. And to your point, I kind of forgot how I did it. Almost forgot the logins to the rpi. It's hard to see that these programs appear to be fading away. @io_guy has provided this community much and is very responsive and his software did my property a lot of good for a long time. Now I'm starting over at a new house with an eisy. I'm looking at an ecobee, but to @larryllix's comment, I'm not sure what functions I need to automate it with the eisy. The ecobee is very capable on its own. I'll put it and a remote temp sensor in and see where that gets me.

@PGannon - I just got an eisy and have a program to turn on premise lights 30 mins before sunset, and had a similar experience yesterday. I got home and the very simple program hadn't run. When I used the admin console and looked at the programs tab, and then summary sub tab, the program's "next run" was scheduled for the next day, not that day -- and it was well before 30 minutes before sunset. I added a hard time condition in addition to the 30 mins before sunset as I was going to be gone. That ran, and then the "next run" was for the following day (tomorrow) which is right. Not sure why this was necessary, but once I got past the programming running once on hard time, it was fine.

My previous house had older Insteon devices that had been running for a very long time, years. Occasionally link tables in certain devices got 'confused' needed to be restored after running for long periods... especially those on the signal/wire feet edge of the Insteon network. Right click on the device and select "restore device". That helped frequently especially with older devices.

I'm just getting back into the ISY after a few years of not touching it, only using the functionality my old system provided at the house I recently sold. I just got an eisy and have an older w10 desktop in an inconvenient place in the new house. I got it setup yesterday and tried the "cloud" version of VNC to access it as my main device is an ipad. Works well, the usual remote AC eye strain & tweaking fonts and window sizes. After reading this thread, I gave the mobile app a try. It does a lot. Granted my setup is small right now and only a couple of small programs, but it's workable, small changes happen much faster IMO. The only thing during setup that the AC can do that the app couldn't is the Insteon diagnostics. Out of the box, the new Insteon PLM would not be recognized by the eisy, and factory resetting it worked and could be verified on the AC.

What types of things are controlled in your smart home structure you wish to bring with you? There's to groups of HA enthusiasts; part of the answer depends on which of those you see yourself in and what you are automating: Hands off Automation - you want events to happen on their own by schedule and/or sensor Assistant Automation - you want to tell Alexa, google or your phone to turn something on and it turns devices on or does things. Which of those 2 sounds like what you want to do? If you're looking for the second type 2., that suggests you have relatively low latency internet available, regularly.

Thanks Geddy and Larry. That helps me figure out how to proceed. I like the familiar: stability, reliability, flexibility and what I know. The node server and portal features were more important on the 994i at my 75 year old last house and there I used io_guy's server to manage comfort / humidity. I'll get a few more virtual circuits going for scheduled exterior lighting control and go from there.