paulbates

Sometimes subnodea are organized under a + sign. Are you seeing that? If no, and it’s your first nodeserver you might have to reboot the ISY to get the node profile recognized. Typically that’s not needed, but worth a try Paul

@lilyoyo is correct. Neither the ISY or Insteon are architected / designed to be "active active" or "active passive" You'll also want your ISY Portal content/configuration moved, which are UUID specific as well. I'm not sure if that can be done via a support ticket, but I'd ask if you’re running v5 and nodeservers, you also have to think through IP addresses of the ISY and the local nodeserver server systems. If you have externally systems that contact the ISY like mobile apps, this needs to be thought through as well. Treat the recovery of the PLM as separate. If my ISY were to die for some reason, I would move the current PLM over the the new ISY and follow the procedure above. I keep an additional PLM around just in case. Historically that has been the weak link, but with SmartLabs changes to PLM hardware in the past few years, I don't think anyone knows how much of a problem it is any longer. But as a key component and <$50 on sale, I'll always have a spare. Paul

I've been on 5 for a few years on my main/only ISY. You can upgrade directly to 5.0.14 I think. I'm on 5.013, in that I don't necessarily upgrade every time if there's nothing in it for me. If I was going from 4.x, I would say go direct to 5.0.14 The V5 releases are stable, but there is a bit of a learning curve to get the first nodeserver running. You have to set up a nodeserver host as well to run nodeservers like polyglot on. For most people, this is buying and installing a raspberry pi computer. V5 is the way ISY is moving, so this would be a good time to change. Since you want something that's a function of V5, harmony, this is a valid reason. Upgrade to 5.0.14 - make sure what you have already is working the same (make a backup of your current setup before upgrading) Give it some time to get comfortable Get a pi and get it setup and running Give it some time to get used to the pi Install polyglot (from here on, you're ready to install multiple nodeservers, the first 4 steps were 1 time) Install the harmony server Paul

If you have ISY v5 firmware, you can use the Polyglot harmony v5 nodeserver. Look under the polyglot section of the forum. While you can control the harmony with the nodeserver, that’s typically easier with Alexa. The reason to use both is that Alexa can easily control the harmony to get equipment in the right state easily with voice commands: "Alexa watch tv".. The ISY can then see that things changed via the harmony polyglot nodeserver, and with ISY programs you can control lights etc in response to the harmony states changing Edit: For the portal- I haven't used this though Paul

They can help. I have one in my garage to support an iolinc (single band only) on the outskirts of my insteon network. The iolinc misses comms sometimes if I remove the 2443.

The answer is yes. The Insteon compatible controller is from SmartenIT and is called a EZFlora. These control 8 Zones each, so you need multiple EZFloras if you have more than 8 Zones. Also, if your system has a pump or master valve, you lose 1 zone (7 instead of 8 ) The ISY can directly install and control EZFlora zones. You write your own programs to determine time-of-day to water, zone cycle times, etc. You can use the ISYs weather module to help to avoid cycles when it thinks its rained or will rain. There is also an irrigation module for the ISY to determine runtimes. You find these under help / install modules on the Admin Console. Not to confuse things, but I had EZFloras for 6 years and spent a lot of time on my programs. I switched to the rainmachine that I use with ISY V5 firmware and Nodelink Paul

It can happen if the device status changed, and the Insteon network message did not make it to the PLM/ISY. For me it normally appears as a device status change, as the ISY treats it as such, but nothing actually changes at the time of the query. To answer the question with a question, did you notice an actual change in device status at 3am? iolincs also have unusual behavior for a query and will report back as if they were activated. Is Fire Shed an iolinc? Driveway Flood Light might be a missed message. If this shows up on many nights, it could mean that floodlights have poor communications... either way far way on the powerline, or the light itself is creating line noise, interfering with the message being returned to the ISY Paul

I’ve had 3 for a number of years 1 is in the attic controlling a motor for heavy duty dampers 2 in the garage... 1 reading a Hydreon rain sensor and the other controlling the detached garage door. I’ve been controlling the garage door since 2011 with the same iolinc and keypad key... if it missed even once my phone would be ringing.. it hasn’t. I get regular notifications when the hydreon cancels a sprinkler cycle due to enough rain. i consider my attic and the garage hostile environments with temps above and below the iolincs specs, but they continue to work

@Techman Where are the thinned out products? Looks like most of the same core products to me: I've seen the smokebridge discounted, but the First Alert Sensor Family (wireless, non z-wave) it supports is on FA's "End of life" warning list. Makes sense to start getting rid of the bridge and get z-wave for this type of product. Their clearance page has a lot of z-wave and some zigbee on it For the "succession of discounts", they've followed x10.com's lead on semi annual deep discount specials as long as I can remember. That's how I built most of my network. They are definitely in a "Status quo" state, can't argue that. No sign of new products, but I've found nothing in the rest of the product line that says anything has changed. Paul

Behind the scenes, you say...?

The beep is what I do, where the door is controlled. You could beep several with a program. Also, I believe beep is a scene property, I think several switches could be beeped in unison. Haven't tried it though. Example of my beep and alert are in your other thread There is a solution that would require wiring a part or 2 to an iolinc's relay called a buzzlinc.. if you search for buzzlinc on the forum that will show up. There's was the insteon alert module which I think is supported under v5. Probably amazon sells it. I would search the forum for it before buying, I remember there were some challenges in integrating it to the isy Paul

The "short chirp" is the only response I've gotten to work on any single / dual band device, regardless of age, fw version or type. It ok for us as the rooms typically aren't super noisy. I just tried some of my original lamplincs, they do nothing. No errors, but no beep. Paul

This is the one I use Garage Alert Left Open - [ID 008E][Parent 004C] If 'Garage / Door Sensor' Status is On Then Wait 30 minutes Repeat 10 times <this goes for ~ 2 hours, allows for yardwork, etc> Set 'Kitchen / Backdoor.Outside' Beep Wait 10 minutes Repeat 0 times <Repeat 0 times canceles the last repeat statement> Resource 'Pushover Garage Door Left Open' <Put your text message here> Repeat Every 15 minutes <Keep nagging until somebody closes it> Set 'Kitchen / Backdoor.Outside' Beep Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

An alternative is to provide a reminder. I have a repeat loop that beeps the keypad by the door with the garage door key on it periodically until someone closes the door. I want a person to manage pressing the button as opposed to the door operating on its won For the "then" in your program, I don't understand why there are two set commands back to back? If this is an iolinc, fast off and on don't do anything different than on or off; iolinc is not dimmable. For my opener, that would most likely start the door, than stop it. Paul

Yep, you and oberkc were right, its not an ism

Its hard to diagnose / fix something that everyone agrees is broken... what difference does it make why a broken program isn't consistent? Try putting parenthesis around the first 3 if rows as oberkc recommended for both programs and test again

That's a great point, I totally missed that. Its working as designed without the first three lines being encapuslated in an "and"

The ifs are kind of a stack.. first condition checked first, then second,... In this case, I would start with the time conditions at the top of both programs so the programs do nothing at all most of the day because the programs will stop thinking once they validate time. I follow that method. There's a number of ISY-isms that you'll need to learn and adapt to the way it works. It will be more productive to focus on what it is, then trying to find out all of the things its not Paul

Hey Andrew If you have harmony you can integrate it directly with Alexa via its skill. Jimbo also has a v5 harmony node server. Both of those use network connectivity to the harmony... no ir required. I use both of those... the harmony skill switches things on/off, controls volume and sets things up”Alexa turn on amazon video”. Jimbos harmony nodeserver can do that as well, but it was less work with the Alexa skill as it already has the spokens built in... no need to write ISY programs for that. Jimbos nodeserver informs the ISY what the harmony is doing so lights, blinds etc can be controlled. Also jimbos nodeserver can control anything the remote does: hdmi inputs, etc. ideally that would all be done with harmony app programming, but if you needed to, you could. Also the portal allows Alexa av control but I’ve not used that, hopefully someone who has can discuss that. Paul

I use a combination of raising or lowering humidity setpoint relative to outside temp. I also automate hvac fan cycling so if there’s a long time between heat cycles, air is moving in the house. I have two non automated humidity & temp sensors I’ve moved around the house to see if humidity is a problem low or high. The only place it can collect for me is the attic, and there it’s not bad, just a little high. I kick on my attic fan at low speed for a period every 1.5 hours humidification is active, and then a run out period that happens 2 hours after the last humidification cycle completes. Paul

Depends a little on the wiring, but the micromodules could possibly installed at the destination fixture instead of in the switch box. See the manual, page 5. You'd install it at the first fixture in the case of multiple fixtures on one swtiche

Hi Bill Yes, that will work For installation, you'll need to add it to the portal account while its online and use the Configuration/Portal tab to initiate the conversation from the second ISY Yes, infact you want to. The PLM's Insteon address is unique in the world and to your network. When you restore the other ISY's backup on to the new ISY, that PLM needs to be attached to the new ISY. Its due to the relationship between that particular PLM and devices on Insteon network. These are the tricky topics For the IP address: if your Nodeservers are running on a local rpi (or other local server), then it will be critical that the new ISY get the same IP address as the old ISY, and that the Old ISY get a different one, if you plan to run them both at the same time. You'll want that in place before you restore the back up. For the UUID: What kinds of things have you done with the portal? If you've taught it alexa spokens or used Portal based Nodeservers, those will be tied to the UUID of the old ISY. For some items in the portal like Alexa, you can download an excel compatible CSV file that will document your work. I don't believe it can be re-imported, you'll need to re-enter those items. For using X10 with the optional X10 module: If you have A10/X10 Experimental Support module installed on your old ISY, and you used its features to name modules, you'll need that module on the new ISY before restoring the ISY backup. If this is the case, you have the optional module, UDI may consider transferring the licence, open a support ticket, state this is what you want and clearly define the old and new UUIDS Paul

Great! glad to hear it.

Here's an example of where in the portal to add it. I'm assuming your hvac fan would be in there as a device. If not, you can use the program method I mentioned above. Create the program, add it under program in the picture Paul

Hi and welcome to the UDI forums! I don't think alexa thermostat skill can control an hvac fan directly. However, you can create a program for this and use that with the spoken in the portal if <nothing> Then set fan on (you'll need the correct device node for your zwave thermostat, this is a sample) Else set fan off This assumes you have the ISY portal and associated your alexa devic to it Edit.. If you zwave thermostat shows up in teh portal as a device, you can skip the program and associate on and off from the portal. Paul