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after this program executes the KPL on LED is still lit. How do I make sure it is in the off stage: This program is a 1HR Pool Pump" If Control '0A.2C.EE.1' is switched On Or Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is switched On And Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is not switched Off Then Run Program 'Pool on 2 HR KPL' (Else Path) Run Program 'Pool on 4 HR KPL' (Else Path) Run Program ' Pool Eq On KPL' (Else Path) Wait 2 seconds Send X10 'K16/On (3)' Wait 1 hour Run Program 'Pool on 1 HR KPL' (Else Path) Else Send X10 'K16/Off (11)'

Hi, I cannot find on the UDI site where to purchase this module. Rumored to be $4 for the TouchSwitch

If just using RL to control programs, would seem OK, but if wanted the advantage of the RL to control lights and do dim and brighten, it would be lost by using with programs I believe. Joe

Great, thanks! Implemented your suggestions and works great. Man, I keep learning the programming, but see the advantage of using the "Run Else" and your other suggestion. All is OK now, again, thanks Joe

This should not be this tough. I am trying to have two KPL button, B & D, that are listed as mutually exclusive turn on the pool pump for 1 hr or 2 hr respectively, but when I run the programs below by hitting Button B first then Button D, program B is still running If Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is switched On And Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is not switched Off Or Control 'KPL Pool Eq D' is not switched On Then Wait 2 seconds Send X10 'K16/On (3)' Wait 1 hour Send X10 'K16/Off (11)' Run Program 'Pool on 1 HR KPL' (Else Path) Else Send X10 'K16/Off (11)' If Control 'KPL Pool Eq D' is switched On And Control 'KPL Pool Eq D' is not switched Off Or Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is not switched On Then Wait 2 seconds Send X10 'K16/On (3)' Wait 2 hours Send X10 'K16/Off (11)' Run Program 'Pool on 2 HR KPL' (Else Path) Else Send X10 'K16/Off (11)'

sorry, I do not understand "Program Test"

so thereis a selection calls "run else path"?. I will check when I get home. Thanks Joe

OK, so how do your write a program that executes (or does not execute) based on whether another program is running? I was using the "Status" but that seems useless Thx Joe

Thanks! Supose this KPL button was one of 4 buttons with similar programs (just different wait time) and they were all Mutually exclusive. If the first button was pressed ON and the second button was then pressed on, would the first program in button A stop?

After thinking further (as your program works fine) could you explain in more detail why you include the "And" line and the "Else" line. It should be simple but not totally clear to me If Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is switched On And Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is not switched Off Then Send X10 'K16/On (3)' Wait 1 hour Send X10 'K16/Off (11)' Else Send X10 'K16/Off (11)'

I do not think I understand the difference in the Program summary tab between these two condition. I have some programs that have completed so they are "Idle" under the Activity column, but still "True" under the Status column. I am confused because I want to write other programs that are contingent on the condition of another program running, but even though it is "Idle" the other program (because it says "True") apparently still thinks its running Please help Thx Joe

Thanks Sub-Routine As you describe it is exactly how I want it to work However, after the 1 hr the light on the KPL was still on (like the program was still active), but like I said I am having a few other things to debug so it may not be related. I just wanted to make sure I was not missing something obvious, like I needed to add something like "stop program after the 1hr" which of course did not make sense to me as the program would be over after 1 hr, just wanted to make sure I must have some other issue Thx Joe

I may be having a couple issues to debug, but let me simply ask. Should the program below turn the KPL LED off (ie program is off) after it finishes, that is after 1 hour? If Control 'KPL Pool Eq B' is switched On Then Send X10 'K16/On (3)' Wait 1 hour Send X10 'K16/Off (11)' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Sorry to even post here as this is not a problem I am having. Quite the contrary, I am ecstatic about discovering the "Mutually Exclusive" feature. These are great! Just what I was trying (unsuccessfully) to do by programs. Makes KPL control soooo much more effective. My best example was 4 different KPL buttons dedicated to four different (1Hr-4hr) run times on my pool filter motor, and mutually exclusive was perfect. Thanks guys at UD! Just what the doctor ordered, and just wanted you to know, that I for one just wanted you to know that you are appreciated! Joe

Is thereany Insteon temperature probes, with the idea to control the temperature of my Spa.

It was the Dimmer! You guys were right! Funny, ended up replacing it with same model and brand, but fixed the problem, must have been either old or they upgraded the electronics Thanks much! Joe

Thanks Sub-Routine, If Smarthome made changes and I have all new equipment, then why the issue do you suspect? Changing the switch sounds easy, but I have to find one that fits the decor, so to be sure this is the problem would help. Was the "flickering" the symptom with these dimmers? This one is about 10+ years old Joe

I had no time to pop the light cover, but I can see this is a Leviton paddle switch dimmer. I has been installed for many years. Is it possible that it is some sort of powerline controlled switch that I never knew about? I did pay a lot for it, but I had to look for a glossy black one to match my decor, so I thought the price was for that, but possibly has some sort of electronic control in it? But why would it flash due to Insteon signals?

yes, correct the other light is non insteon controlled and it is controlled by a phyical dimmer. Symptom: press the KPL key, if other light is on it will flash by a quick dim then back . if the KPL key flashes (like when it has a brief communication issue) the other light if on will flash that same number of times. If the second light is off no flashing of course. Joe

I am so upset. After over $1000 spent on ISy and Insteon, now when I press a scene button on the KPL or an RL that are linked to a scene, the button blinks but so do the lights on an entirely different circuit not even controlled by Insteon. This is crazy! My wife is ready to throw the whole mess out, and I did it so carefully in that I did the install in stages so I would not have this problem. Why would light blink on entirely different circuits not even controlled by Insteon??. My wife is afraid to touch anything as if to get electrocuted and I have spend countless hours installing all of this. So bizarre!

thanks Michael On other question. The KPL is in a tabletop case (forget what they call it) and the wire is about 30 ft long and plugged into a GFI outlet. Se any issue with this? All f the other lights controlled form the KPL work fine, just this one scene has some lights that do not come on consistently Thx Joe

more specific to my problem, I have a garage KP that has a key to control a scene, but it constantly falsl on two of the lights in the scene. Apparently making a new scene with just the KP controller did not help. However, If I write a program to turn on the original scene whne it sees that KP key, it works OK. Seems strange to me. Joe

I have a few scenes with multiple controllers (2 keys from two different KPL and 2 keys form 2 different RLs) a total of 4. It takes a long time to make changes and some errors some times during control. Is it better to make a new scene for each controller or at least maybe break into two scenes with two controllers for each scene?

I have come up the learning curve fast, but still a ways to go... The concept still escapes me a little. Let's say I add a toggle dimmer to the ISY that Controls a "garage lite". When I add it to the ISY it comes up as a controller not a light. Well OK, since I guess it could control more than the local load. Now lets' say that I add that to a scene called "garage scene" and it is the only light in that scene. Now I add other controllers to that scene (no other loads) like a KPL and a couple of RLs. Now I want to control that "garage Lite" with a motion controller, but only when the "garage lite" is not been tuned on by any of the other controllers in the "garage scene". Is the status of the scene the same as the status of the lite? I may not be explaining it very well, but more simply: If the scene only contains one light, is the status of the lite different than the status of the scene? If confusing, sorry Joe

genek May not be the same issue I had, but when exiting the linking mode on the RL, make sure you DO NOT do it by hitting one of the number 1-6 keys, but rather by hitting the Bright key, otherwise I got some really strange results. This issue has been confirmed, hope it helps you (as I was also about to return my RL) Joe