ingeborgdot Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I have a fantech fan in my attic that is attached to my bathroom vent. Here is the setup I use to control it. I have an outletlinc in the attic that the fan is plugged in to. I have a keypadlinc timer that I have paired with the outletlinc on my isy99. It had run flawlessly for over a year and a half. Then one day it quit working. Resetting would not work or anything at all. I got a replacement and put in a new outletlinc. The problem I am having now is that every couple of days it loses its sync. I have to go to the breaker box and shut down the keypad timer and outletlinc. It then works for a little while and quits. Does anyone have any idea what would be happening? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hi ingeborgdot, Wow ... my only suggestion is (and if possible) move the KPL to another location and see if it exhibits the same problem. If it does, then it's defective (in all likelihood). If not, then there's something wrong with that location such as surge or spike or high voltage. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The fan maybe generating voltage spikes when turning On or Off. The OutletLinc maybe locking up from these spikes and needs a power cycle to let its internal controller reset. I have a under counter fluorescence light I call my module killer. I can us it to lock up most of my ApplianceLincs when I use it in tests. By turning it On and Off. If the KeypadLinc is also on the same circuit. It could also be locking up but the OutletLinc would be my thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingeborgdot Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 The fan is a slow on type of fan. I does not just surge on. It slowly builds to full speed. Why would it work for an entire year and half perfectly? It was the outletlinc that went bad. I don't have a single CFL in my house. Never have, and never will. Should I just switch it out to an appliance linc instead of the outletlinc? Would that maybe be a better option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oberkc Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Should I just switch it out to an appliance linc instead of the outletlinc? Would that maybe be a better option? I have seen no indication here, or at my house, that there is some benefit in using one over the other (besides flexibility in placement and cosmetics). I simply wonder if you are having device failures. Perhaps there is a differense in the "sense" function...does the outletlinc have this and the appliancelinc not, or vice versa? Perhaps that offers an explanation for device failures. Also, I wonder if temperatures in your attic are exceeding the rated temperatures for the device (Indoors, 32 to 104°F, up to 85% relative humidity) One thing I am curious about...how much power does the fan draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingeborgdot Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 64 watts of draw. And I suppose the temps in the attic will easily exceed 104 for heat in the summer but I highly doubt 32 in the attic but it could be close. What would you suggest to do? I guess I never realized there would be a temp limit for these, duh. It has not been warm yet though and the cool temps would not have been that cool yet either in the last month when I have been having problems. What other way would there be to control this fan with the keypadlinc? I am open to your suggestions please. Would making an insulated box around the outlet help or putting that box under the insulation? I am at a loss of what to do. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oberkc Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 64 watts of draw. Well...one would not expect that to be much of a problem. What would you suggest to do? I guess I never realized there would be a temp limit for these, duh. It has not been warm yet though and the cool temps would not have been that cool yet either in the last month when I have been having problems. What other way would there be to control this fan with the keypadlinc? I am open to your suggestions please. Would making an insulated box around the outlet help or putting that box under the insulation? I am at a loss of what to do. Thanks First, I am only suggesting that environmental conditions can be a factor with electronic device longevity. High temperatures tend to shorten life of electonic devices. I would imagine low temperatures can have undesirable affects, as well, in areas of condensation and material properties. If you believe that you are experiencing premature device failures in this case, and want to eliminate temperature as a possible contibutor to higher device failure rates, your options are to install the controlling insteon device into conditioned space. Insulation around the insteon device will not be affective, unless you have active heating and cooling for that device. In fact, insulation may make it worse (trapping heat generated by the device, itself). I believe your best option would be to mount an inlinelinc somewhere within the conditioned space of the house, and hardwire that to a basic outlet in the attic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingeborgdot Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 I have never worked with and inlinelinc before. Will this tie directly to the fan or the kpl timer? How would the wiring sequence go? I will have to do a little research I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 There should be typical connection shown in the full users manual. InlineLinc would connect to the fan and be linked to the KPL. http://www.insteon.com/pdf/2475S2.pdf http://www.insteon.com/pdf/2475sdb.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oberkc Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Or one could simply connect an inlinelinc to a standard outlet, into which the fan could be plugged, Yes, user manuals are a valuable resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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