New intermittent PLM issue ?

[mzn50]

Hello.. My platform and setup

 

ISY 994ir

Router

Sonus bridge

All plugged into a APC UPS

 

PLM plugged in same outlet (not in Ups)

 

All worked fine.. Till I relocated complete setup to basement ..

I also introduced a Powerline Ethernet extenders.. But in different part of the house..

 

What I'm seeing is occasional misfires.. And when connected.. I'm. I'm not able to change status of a light as an example..

 

Remotely.. I can connect via Static IP.. Connects fine.. But 5/10 times.. I can't launch a scene or turn on a device..

 

Can the Powerline Ethernet devices be causing issues ?

Anyone seen this ?

Should I renenable the Access points again !

 

Any insight would be appriciated..

 

Thanks

Matt

[LeeG]

Is the UPS on a FilterLinc?

[mzn50]

Hi Lee..

No filterlinc..

Would I plug the ups into this ?

Or PLM..?

 

What's odd is that all was fine at the other location in house.. Same setup..just moved it all downstairs..

 

Thx

[LeeG]

The UPS would be plugged into the filtered outlet of the FilterLinc. PLM remains plugged into the outlet. With the change in PLM location relative to the general house wiring that may be an issue as well. There may be a source of interference on the current PLM circuit that was not there on the original PLM circuit. If you have a spare FilterLinc it is always a good idea to have the UPS and any additional equipment not on the UPS isolated with a FilterLinc.

 

There was additional extenders added to the powerline. Wires run all over the house so them being physically located somewhere else may still result in powerline issues. Not familiar with the extenders being used so they may not be an issue. With the unreliability that currently exists I suggest removing the extenders and run a few tests to see if they are contributing to the problem.

[Brian H]

I have used my PLM in the Unfiltered Outlet of a Filterlinc and my UPS in the filtered outlet of the same Filterlinc.

As a convenience in my particular setup.

[mzn50]

good to know Brian.. and thanks Lee.. will certainly do this ..

 

I do have an older X10PRO powerline filter

Conceptually.. Should be the same ?

 

here -->> http://www.smarthomeusa.com/ShopByManuf ... Item/XPPF/

 

 

thanks

[LeeG]

I do not have knowledge of X10 filters. Don't know if it would cover the Insteon frequency which is different from X10. Brian may know.

[Brian H]

I will look and see if I can find the XPPF filter information. I know it was on the now defunct X10 forums but I believe there is a archive I can look at. Though I am not sure the search function works on the archived material.

 

I believe it would work fine on the Insteon 131.65KHz line frequency. X10 is 120KHz.

The Filterlinc was originally an X10 filter and I don't believe it was redesigned for the slightly higher frequency Insteon power line signals.

 

One thing we did find out about the XPPF. It is rated for 5 amps, 600 watts resistive. Don't push it to 5 amps. It will overheat and smell hot.

I melted the coils in one as a test. With a 500 watt 4.2 amp resistive load of incandescent light bulbs.

[mzn50]

thanks again lads..

will give it a shot ..!

[mzn50]

Just an update :

 

Been a week since I installed the XPPF filter .. My system seems to be more solid .. I'll continue to measure but I think this indeed may have been the issue.

Thank you for the help !

Matt