Carey737 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Hi, New to isy. I have an isy99i loaned to me to try out the system. I purchased a couple of 2744S light switches to get started. When I try to link switch to isy I get the error message "can not determine insteon engine". The firmware for the isy99i is 3.3.10. Is this a compatibility with the switch and the 99i? I have been able to link a motion sensor, and the switch is fairly close to PLM (25'). Thanks for any assistance, Carey Link to comment
stusviews Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The 99i is an older device and no new firmware is available. Newer INSTEON devices are unlikely to be supported. Link to comment
Carey737 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 That's what I thought. Thanks for the reply. Ordering 994i now. Link to comment
Carey737 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 I called Insteon tech support and they said that particular switch should still work with the 99i Can someone take a look at the event log and give me any more insight? I would really like to use the 99i for a bit longer to see if this is something I want to continue before I drop the cash for a new isy. Thanks in advance, Carey Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [20 8B C4 ] Added to list of devices to link to ISY Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 0D 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 20.8B.C4 2F.BA.C4 AB 0D FF (FF) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [std-Direct Nack] 20.8B.C4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 20 8B C4 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:15 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 06 LNK-ON (01) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:24 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 20 8B C4 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:24 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 06 LNK-ON (01) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:33 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 20 8B C4 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:33 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 06 LNK-ON (01) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:33 AM : [ Time] 11:52:34 1(0) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:33 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 20.8B.C4 2F.BA.C4 2B 09 01 LNK-ON (01) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:33 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 20.8B.C4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:33 AM : [LNK-BGN ] 02 64 01 00 06 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:34 AM : [LNK-STAT ] 02 53 M(01) gid=00 20.8B.C4 022A 42 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:34 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 0D 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:34 AM : [LNK-END ] 02 65 06 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:34 AM : [std MH ] Unexpected Ack imCmd=65 cmd1= 0xC4 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:35 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:36 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 20.8B.C4 2F.BA.C4 2B 0D 02 (02) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:36 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 20.8B.C4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 0D 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 20.8B.C4 2F.BA.C4 2B 0D 02 (02) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 20.8B.C4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 10 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:48 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 10 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:48 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:57 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 10 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:57 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:53:01 AM : [20 8B C4 0 ] Cannot determine device type Sat 08/23/2014 11:53:01 AM : [20 8B C4 0 ] Failed to add device Link to comment
LeeG Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 That is an I2CS device. It did not answer the request for it to identify itself (tried three times). Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 10 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:39 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:48 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 10 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:48 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:57 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 8B C4 0F 10 00 Sat 08/23/2014 11:52:57 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.8B.C4 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Sat 08/23/2014 11:53:01 AM : [20 8B C4 0 ] Cannot determine device type Sat 08/23/2014 11:53:01 AM : [20 8B C4 0 ] Failed to add device Later ISY firmware may issue a different sequence of commands. Overall comm with the device is good. Link to comment
Carey737 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Sorry for the ignorance, but shouldn't an I2CS device be compatible with the isy99i running 3.3.10? Will upgrading to the 994i fix this specific issue? Or is there possibly something else going on? Once again, I appreciate the responses, Carey Link to comment
LeeG Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I cannot answer that question. The device did not respond to the three commands. Would it respond to a 994i with later firmware I have no way of knowing. There were Insteon devices moved to I2CS after 3.3.10. I know for sure that later KPLs are not handled by 3.3.10 but that is the result of SmartLabs changing the device type. Link to comment
Carey737 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Ok. Thank you so much. Ill try upgrading to 994 and go from there. Link to comment
Teken Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 At the end of the day purchasing a 994 Series Controller is the only solution moving forward. As it supports all current and future generation of Insteon devices that may be released in the future. Staying with the 99 Series Controller will limit you to what device(s) you can add, support, and ultimately control with all feature sets. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hello Carey737, Please look at the end of the events: Sat 08/23/2014 11:53:01 AM : [20 8B C4 0 ] Cannot determine device type Sat 08/23/2014 11:53:01 AM : [20 8B C4 0 ] Failed to add device It seems that ISY cannot determine the device type. There are two cases: ISY does not understand the type (it's old) or that the device is not returning a type that ISY understands. I suspect it's the 3.3.10 firmware. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Carey737 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thanks everyone for the info. 994i is on the way. Stand by for more newbie questions. Link to comment
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