giomania Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hi, I am having trouble getting my EZFlora to show zone 8, which I want to use as a zone, not the pump control. I saw an old post from an old firmware that showed the options as having two buttons; one to use the zone 8 as a pump contro, and one for normal zone operation. Here is a snip of my view of the EZ Flor and the options window: Thanks for any assistance. Link to comment
paulbates Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 There's a fix on the way to "un-set" pump mode. For now, delete the ezflora, factory reset it and then add it back in. To factory reset an ezflora, unplug it for at least 5 seconds. Press the SET button while plugging back in. Continue holding SET button for 5 seconds and then release. Paul Link to comment
giomania Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 That did not work, unfortunately; I still have only 7 zones 2- 8. Edit: I noticed that now the top one is the zone 1, so I do have 8 listed, and now I have my seven zones working, but the last one zone #8 does not work. I am unable to turn it on. Thanks. Link to comment
paulbates Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Are you sure it didn't pop up at the root level of Main, e.g not in the folder? Paul Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hi giomania, Unfortunately this is a UI bug and already fixed in our next 4.x and 5.x branches. I am so sorry. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
giomania Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hi Michel, The fact that I am unable to turn on zone 8 is the UI problem? If that is the case, I would have thought I would have found other posts about this in my search before I started this thread? I only found old posts from 2-4 years ago discussing UI issues with pump control that were fixed. If it is only the UI that is broken for turning on zone 8, can I issue a direct command through a program to get it working? I hooked this valve up to my garden soaker hose, so it will not run as often as the other valves in the system. Thanks. Mark Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hi Mark, You can configure EZFlora to act as a pump or regular irrigation zone. That option, unfortunately, is no longer visible in the UI because of the changes to the fonts. This said, you should be able to turn zone 8 on/off regardless with one difference: if not in pump mode, turning zone 8 turns off other zones. If in pump mode, zone 8 can be turned on/off independent of other zones. Is this NOT what you are experiencing? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Brian H Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 If it is in the pump mode for output 8. You could use the Smartenit Utility to set output 8 to a zone. If you don't have a spare PLM to use with the utility. Some have temporarily used the PLM in the ISY system to access it. That would most likely mean powering down the system and using the serial cable packed in the PLM box. That many folks unfortunately discard with the box. Link to comment
giomania Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Michel, I am not able to turn on zone 8. I click "On" and nothing happens. If the status changed and it showed on, then I know I could have an issue with wiring between the easy Flora and my valve but I don't even see the status change when I click the on button in the ISY. I have confirmed operation of the other zones since resetting the device. Thanks. Mark Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 When Zone 8 cannot be turned On it means the EZFlora is configured to use Zone 8 as a Pump controller. I use the free Simplehomenet software to change the EZFlora configuration. Factory Reset of EZFlora may also reset Zone 8 to normal irrigation zone. Link to comment
giomania Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thanks Lee. I was thinking if the pump configuration was the issue, that the valve connected to zone 8 on the EZFlora would then also be turned on (and show as on in the ISY GUI) when one of the other zones was active; Is that correct? When I turn on the other valves, my "zone 8" does not show in the ISY GUI as on, and the valve does not come on. If that is the normal behavior when set to pump control, then it could be a wiring issue to the valve. I can test this by connecting my "zone 8" valve to one of the other functioning zones. Mark Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Zone 8 will not indicate being On in the GUI (Admin Console) when Zone 8 is controlling a Pump. I've not connected Zone 8 to an irrigation valve (I pump from a lake) but would expect an irrigation valve to turn On if connected to zone 8 (assuming water supply can run two zones at the same time). . I'll look into this further to confirm. From memory the voltage on zone 8 when operating a pump would turn on an irrigation valve. A relay is used to energize the pump. I'll do another post later today. I would look at the connections to the irrigation valve, looking at the voltage at the EZFlora and the voltage at the irrigation valve. What needs to happen is to get the EZFlora out of pump mode as that is how the EZFlora should be configured. When that configuration is established Zone 8 will turn On in the Admin Console, just like the other 7 zones. Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I bench tested an EZFlora. Zone 8 should power an irrigation valve. Remember that as long as zone 8 is powering a pump, one of zones 1-7 must be On for zone 8 to supply power. Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I also confirmed that a correct Factory Reset of EZFlora does reset Zone 8 back to irrigation zone rather than pump controller. Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 ISY 4.5.1 RC1 has the fix for the EZFlora Options. 4.5.1 RC1 can now set the EZFlora Options to either Pump mode or normal irrigation mode for zone 8. Thanks Michel to all who added the additional EZFlora Option. Works great. Link to comment
giomania Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Thanks for the responses Lee. I managed to fix it, and here is what I did: I moved the wire for zone 8 to zone 7, and it wasn't turning on the valve. I got out my multi-meter and discovered a continuity issue in the zone 8 wiring (user error). I fixed the wiring issue, and then the valve worked connected to zone 7. I re-installed the wire to the zone 8 valve on the EZFlora zone 8 and it still did not work; the admin console gui did not indicate the valve was turned on. Just to be sure, I checked for voltage on the EZFlora zone 8 terminal, and there was none. I removed the EZFlora from the ISY, factory reset it, and re-added it to the ISY. Everything now worked on zone 8, both in the admin console GUI and valve actuation. Whew! Mark Link to comment
giomania Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 ISY 4.5.1 RC1 has the fix for the EZFlora Options. 4.5.1 RC1 can now set the EZFlora Options to either Pump mode or normal irrigation mode for zone 8. Thanks Michel to all who added the additional EZFlora Option. Works great. Good to know. Will update soon. Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 As an FYI (from post #14), zone 8 runs the pump (zone 8 circuit powered) only when one of zone 1-7 is also on. The pump circuit does not run the pump when all zones 1-7 are off. Otherwise the pump would be pushing water into a closed system. Years ago I had a conventional Rainbird controller that controlled the irrigation system. A lightening strike damaged the Rainbird system such that the pump ran when all irrigation valves were closed. When I got home one of the PVC pipes had cracked under the pump pressure so the pump itself was not damaged. Now have a pressure relief valve built into the system. All of that was meant to explain why zone 8 was not turning on the irrigation valve because zone 1-7 were all off. Would have been necessary to turn on one of the zones (1-7) before zone 8 would provide power to the pump.( or an irrigation valve in your case). Once the EZFlora was Factory Reset to eliminate pump option, zone 8 works like zones 1-7. Link to comment
giomania Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 As an FYI (from post #14), zone 8 runs the pump (zone 8 circuit powered) only when one of zone 1-7 is also on. The pump circuit does not run the pump when all zones 1-7 are off. Otherwise the pump would be pushing water into a closed system. Years ago I had a conventional Rainbird controller that controlled the irrigation system. A lightening strike damaged the Rainbird system such that the pump ran when all irrigation valves were closed. When I got home one of the PVC pipes had cracked under the pump pressure so the pump itself was not damaged. Now have a pressure relief valve built into the system. All of that was meant to explain why zone 8 was not turning on the irrigation valve because zone 1-7 were all off. Would have been necessary to turn on one of the zones (1-7) before zone 8 would provide power to the pump.( or an irrigation valve in your case). Once the EZFlora was Factory Reset to eliminate pump option, zone 8 works like zones 1-7. Understood. I had also tested that by turning on one of the other valves and zone 8 did not show as "on" in the admin console, but that was before I fixed my wiring issue. I don't know what was going on with my EZFlora, or if the wiring issue had any affect on its operation (doesn't make sense that it would), but it is fixed now. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 LeeG, THANK YOU. As you might remember, you were the one who helped us implement it in the first place. I guess with all the font changes, that button got disappeared. Thanks again SO very much! With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
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