blackpr Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Apologies if this is a duplicate topic -- I actually did look to see if it had been addressed. It's become apparent to me that ISY portal won't allow Echo to discover secured devices. Specifically, I'm trying to get alexa to work with a GD00Z garage door controller. While I understand the reason for this, in my particular application the security is not required and Echo integration is. I came across documentation which allowed it via a program with the commands of "off" and "on", which is hardly intuitive, "open" and "close" would obviously be preferred. I also came across instructions to do it with a skill, which did NOT work -- Alexa responded with "Unable to turn on lock". Where specifically is this decision being made? Is it an ISY function to not share that device? Is it the ISY portal? Is it the Echo Portal deciding not to retrieve such a device? Is there any way to disable this security "feature?" -Ray Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Using Open and Close with programs is supposed to work, but I found those commands problematic. I can use Open and Close with my GDO programs (I/O Lincs), but not with programs that control window coverings. Have you tried a program for you GDO? Link to comment
blackpr Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Using Open and Close with programs is supposed to work, but I found those commands problematic. I can use Open and Close with my GDO programs (I/O Lincs), but not with programs that control window coverings. Have you tried a program for you GDO? Yeah, I get the "I'm not quite sure how to help you with that." Link to comment
MWareman Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I think that the 'lock' spoken may be blacklisted in Alexa.... Don't know for sure though... Link to comment
blackpr Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yeah, MWareman -- I kept trying to do a discover and it kept not showing up. No error, no nothing. Just simply didn't work. I'm guessing type "lock" is not allowed. If it's amazon that's the culprit then I can take it to them, but either way, it should be configurable. Make it opt-in with a big fat warning for those who might not understand the implications. But it should be up to the end user how and where they use their supported devices. </gripe> Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I have locks that are not named "lock." I can add them to the portal, but Alexa won't discover them. Link to comment
blackpr Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 I have locks that are not named "lock." I can add them to the portal, but Alexa won't discover them. If they're z-wave they have a device-category of "lock". Look in your ISY portal under your Echo config and look at the category column. I'm GUESSING that's how it determines it. Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I just tried using a program that has the word "lock" in its name. (The spoken does no include "lock.") No problem controlling the lock. Link to comment
blackpr Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 I managed to re-add the program from scratch, went through the entire process again and am able to use a program to control the garage door. This is fine, but the "ask izzy" part of the skill is annoying. I'd rather just ask Alexa than ask Alexa to ask her friends daughters sisters cousin to do something for me. Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 You don't need to invoke IZZY if you just want to run THEN or ELSE. Link to comment
andyf0 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 You can lock a door directly by asking Izzy to "Lock the front door" for example. No program needed. I just added the lock with a spoken work to the portal, no discovery needed either, presumably because I'm using the skill and not Connected Home". Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Which lock did you add? Link to comment
andyf0 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 It was a Schlage BE469, also an FE599. You can also ask Izzy the status of the "front door" and she will answer Locked or Unlocked. Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 No success. I have both A Schlage BE469 and an FE599. I added both to the portal, gave them each a different spoken. But neither were discovered. Link to comment
andyf0 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Alexa only discovers devices she can use in Smarthome. So, no, she doesn't discover the locks. However, if you have the ISY skill enabled in addition to the ISY Optimized for Smart Home V2 (in the Alexa app go into Skills and search for ISY) , you can say "Alexa, ask Izzy to lock the <front door>. The ISY Skill and ISY Optimized for Smart Home V2 are two separate entities. To use the skill you have to say "ask Izzy .................". To use Smarthome you can command Alexa without the "ask Izzy" but Smarthome pretty much only uses ON and OFF and BRIGHTEN and DIM commands, the skill has a much more extensive vocabulary. Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I already had the IZZY skill installed. I didn't think about asking IZZY to do something that didn't appear in the list, but it worked. Thanks Link to comment
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