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Alas the funky KPL is funky again today. I turn on the top button, the button lights up, the load turns on, but then the button blinks off and back on. Sometimes it blinks 2 or 3 times. I have another (identical) KPL in another part of the house that is working fine, so I compared it. On that one the "set" button flashes green whenever I tap one of the buttons. That's how they normally work. On the suspect KPL the set button never blinks. I thought it seemed odd when I did the factory reset yesterday and re-linked it to its secondary switch. The set switch never lit up. So I think I will have to consider the KPL as failing and replace it.

I tried rebooting it, twice. First time, off for 10 seconds, second time off for 30. Didn't help. Really erratic behavior. Sometimes it does the blinking thing, sometimes it doesn't, depending on what button I push. I swear at one point I just waved my hand over the KPL (really close, without physically touching it) it blinked off and on again. I finally did a factory reset on it and now it seems to be working OK. I almost thought the switch was failing and would have to be replaced. I have no idea how this could be related to my network going down and up, unless the Eisy did something weird. I have it on a UPS, so it didn't get powered off. It did send me notifications that the portal was inaccessible, so it knew the WAN was down. I don't know... another Insteon oddity I guess. I relinked the top and bottom buttons to the Insteon on/off switch they normally control at the bottom of the stairs. Can I reprogram the four small scene buttons using the Admin Console?

I found an indirect way to verify the time. I have a program that sets several variables based on the system date and time, and updates them all day long. I was able to view those variables in UDM and confirm they were set correctly. Thanks, and good luck with EISY-UI. I have peeked at it but still rely on Admin Console until the forum posts indicate EISY-UI is more ready for prime time.

Sorry I'm posting this here but I"ve tried posting to the Insteon Forum and it won't let me log in or reset my credentials. The latest posts there seem to be over a year old so maybe that site is no longer working? This is a strange problem. I’ve been an Insteon user for over 20 years and use an Eisy controller (ver. 1) and over 20 Insteon devices. On 11/5/2026 my internet service went out (cut cable). While I waited for it to be repaired, I tethered my phone to my router for a while to get internet access going again. It worked OK, but was up and down several times during the day as I messed with it. That evening I noticed that my 6-button keypad was “flashing”. The top button was on because the lights it controls were on. There were 1 or 2 of the small scene buttons lit up because those scenes were on at the time. All the LEDs were steadily flashing on-off about once or twice a second. The buttons still seemed to control their loads when I pressed them, yet whatever ones were lit up at the time would flash, no matter what I pressed. I had no idea what was happening, so I just ignored it and went to bed. The next morning the LEDs were no longer flashing and the keypad seemed back to normal. Today, 3 days later, the keypad is turning on and off loads normally (and not flashing). However, when I turn on the top button it lights up, goes dark, and lights up again. I’ve never experienced that before. Does anybody know why: a) My internet going out would affect the keypad? Sure, the Eisy complained it was offline and online, but that’s normal. b) What does the flashing LEDs signify? Is the EISY and/or PLM doing this, or the keypad itself? c) Why does the top button now turn on/off/on every time I push it? d) Do I need to factory reset the KPL and reprogram it? Thanks.

Yesterday after the time change I looked in the android mobile app on my phone to see if I could tell what the clock on my EISY was set to. I couldn't seem to find it anywhere. I just wanted to make sure it was updated. Is there any way to see the internal clock setting on the EISY that way? Also, as a former programmer, I'm curious how IoX handles times changes like this, and how they affect programs (currently running or otherwise). I remember a long time ago a company I worked for had to stop their batch processing systems for one hour and then restart them to accommodate the backwards shift in time. Otherwise data timestamps got whacked up if I recall. Thanks!

A late followup... A few weeks later, the icon started working as desired. The little circle appears every time I open Favorites, and I can click the button to turn on the fan. I have no idea what changed, but it is working now.

A follow-up on this issue... Today I opened UDM and it says three of my scenes are turned on, even though none of them are. These seem to be the same scenes I was having trouble with earlier. One of them is called "Galley" and has three wall switches in my kitchen in it. One of those is a dimmer switch called Swag Light. The physical switch is working OK for the lamp. But when I turn the switch on or off, the status is not updating in Admin Console or UDM. If I ask Alexa to turn Swag Light on or off, it works as expected and NOW both AC and ADM show the correct status. If I ask Alexa to turn on/off Galley, the Swag Lamp turns on/off. But the other two devices (Kitchen East and Kitchen West) don't change at all. The switches don't physically turn on/off nor does their status in AC. I have another scene called Kitchen Lights with Kitchen East and Kitchen West in it, and it works as expected when I tell Alexa to turn that scene on or off. The two switched from above are turned on/off, and AC is updated properly. These devices and scenes have been around for years. I don't know why they have become problematic in recent months. What is the normal procedure to correct this kind of situation? Is the Swag Light switch failing (since it is not signalling its status to AC)? Should I just remove it from AC, factory reset the switch, and then add it back in? Should I remove all of the switches and re-add them just to clean up everything? I don't suspect my PLM (even though it is over a decade old) because Alexa commands work OK. Only a couple of wall switches seem to be acting up. Maybe I'm mistaken on that. Once I figure this out then I can maybe fix the other two scenes in my living room that is acting similarly. Thanks.

Wait... Tried it in Chrome and got right in. Browser incompatibility?

When I try to use Firefox to browse to http://eisy.local I get a login page where it either rejects my login with an unknown error, or the page disappears in a couple of seconds and displays: Unable to connectFirefox can’t connect to the server at eisy.local:3000 Anybody know why it is doing this? Thanks.

Thank you so much for the explanation. I was a batch programmer (mostly COBOL and C) for over 40 years, so I'm used to code that always executes as written, statement for statement, linear fashion. I find this IoX language quite different, and challenging. The fact that different parts of a program can be evaluated at different times is tough to wrap my old brain around sometimes. I appreciate your help!

But the variable is zero (I triple checked it), and there is an AND clause between the variable check and the From/To statement, so shouldn't the entire program be FALSE all the time? Why would it still trigger at 10PM?

My wife and I decided to take an overnight trip a few days ago so I created this simple program to make the house look "lived in" that night. I set $sOnVacation (a state variable I had just created) to 1 just before we left, and then set it to zero right after we returned. At 10PM that night the lights turned off unexpectedly. It happened again the next night. Since the variable is 0 (zero), why would it do that? There must be something I'm not understanding. Thanks! Look Lived In - [ID 0051][Parent 004E] If $sOnVacation is 1 And From Sunset To 10:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Living room lights' On Else Set 'Living room lights' Off

I have a 10yo desktop computer that I've used Admin Console on for 10 years - first with an ISY994i and now an Eisy. Several months ago I upgraded it to Windows 11 using a Rufus Installer utility (since Microsoft blocked me from upgrading normally). Now I can no longer install Java, as I get a Windows 1603 error. Oracle says its a known error but evidently they don't care as that was posted years ago. I have tried for hours with no luck... deleting old Java files, removing remnants from the registry, every internet tip I can find. I've pretty much given up. I have a 1yo Windows 11 laptop and Java and Admin Console work fine. So I would recommend against upgrading from Win10 to Win11. YMMV If they get EISY-UI stabilized I may start using that instead of Admin Console. We'll see.

Try rebooting the EISY. That seemed to help mine when I was getting those messages. I just pulled the power cord out of the back for 10 seconds and then plugged it back in. Once it rebooted, the "added" messages stopped happening.

A follow-up to say I've pretty much given up on this error. I have spent hours trying every suggestion I could find online to fix this, but nothing has worked. I believe it is a Windows error, probably not specific to Java, but I'm not sure. One thought I had is this 10yo PC was originally Windows 10 but I upgraded it several months ago to Windows 11 using a free Rufus upgrade tool. I had to do this because Microsoft kept claiming my mobo was not compatible with Windows 11 (missing some useless "security feature" I cannot remember at this time). The Rufus installer got around that and allowed me to do an in-place upgrade to Win11. This allowed me to keep the 10 year's worth of applications installed. The upgrade worked fine, and I'm now booting Win11. This Java install error is the only problem I've seen so far. I have no plans to replace this workhorse PC, so I'll just have to live without Admin Console on it I guess. I'll just use my laptop instead.