Is it time to replace my PLM?

[gweempose]

My ISY-994 has been pretty rock solid for years, but I suddenly started having some issues out of the blue the other day. About 75% of the Insteon devices in my house turned on spontaneously, and ever since then I have been having a tough time connecting to the ISY. Sometimes it works just fine, and other times I can't even access the ISY's admin console. My PLM is a 2413S (v 1.0). It has served me well for a long time, but I'm thinking it may finally be time for a new one.

[Teken]

Its lived a good life time to repair and replace . . .

[Brian H]

It has served you well. Probably much longer than the slightly over two years old most fail at.

 

If you decide to try and rebuild the module as a spare. The V1.0 hardware was different. There was some rework on the main board to add the second capacitor and coil. They are hanging above the main board and not soldered directly to it.

Somewhere in the large PLM repair thread here. Is a photo of the V1.0 layout.

 

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13866-repair-of-2413s-plm-when-the-power-supply-fails/

[apostolakisl]

My original PLM never died.  I don't know what the version number was, but it was a single band device (no RF) and lasted me many years and may still be functioning in the home of whoever the person on ebay is who bought it from me.  I replaced it with the "new and improved" dual band device about 5 years ago.  I have 2 of them, the first died, I bought a new one, then replaced the caps on the old one, then the new one died and I put the repaired one into service and fixed the caps on the second one which I keep as a spare. 

[stusviews]

Although you PLM may be near or at end-of-life, the All-On phenomenon that you experienced is usually unrelated. Do you have any motion sensors or programs triggers that include the same device as a Then statement?

[gweempose]

Although you PLM may be near or at end-of-life, the All-On phenomenon that you experienced is usually unrelated. Do you have any motion sensors or programs triggers that include the same device as a Then statement?

 

I don't have any motion sensors. What do you mean by " ... program triggers that include the same device as a Then statement"?

[Brian H]

There are a few threads here on the All-On phenomenon. Many times there was a Motion Sensor in the mix. 

[stusviews]

Here's a quick made up example.

 

If

        Control 'device x' is switched On

 

Then

        Wait 5 minutes

       Set 'device x' 30%

[gweempose]

I'm reviving this thread because I finally got around to picking up a new PLM. I'm ready to do the swap, but I have a couple questions. I have some battery powered devices such as leak sensors, z-wave locks, etc ... Should these be excluded when I do the swap, and then added back in afterward? If so, how do I do this? Is it simply a matter of making sure "Automatic Writes to Battery Powered Devices" is grayed out?

[Brian H]

You may want to look at this thread.

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/19331-my-plm-died-and-i-bought-a-new-one-what-should-i-do-next/?hl=%2Breplace+%2Bplm

 

I have no ZWave devices so I can't comment on how to handle them.

If you have a Pro version you can turn Off Automatic Writes to Battery devices. Then write to then one at a time so only one is wake so writes can be done to it.

[gweempose]

You may want to look at this thread.

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/19331-my-plm-died-and-i-bought-a-new-one-what-should-i-do-next/?hl=%2Breplace+%2Bplm

 

I have no ZWave devices so I can't comment on how to handle them.

If you have a Pro version you can turn Off Automatic Writes to Battery devices. Then write to then one at a time so only one is wake so writes can be done to it.

 

Thanks for the link! I've read through the procedure and think I fully understand it. Once the PLM restore is complete, it sounds like I'll need to go through each battery powered device one by one, put them into linking mode, and then manually update them. I'm a a little nervous because I have so many devices, but hopefully I won't have too many problems. Wish me luck!

[Techman]

Thanks for the link! I've read through the procedure and think I fully understand it. Once the PLM restore is complete, it sounds like I'll need to go through each battery powered device one by one, put them into linking mode, and then manually update them. I'm a a little nervous because I have so many devices, but hopefully I won't have too many problems. Wish me luck!

 

 

Make sure only one  battery operated device is in the linking mode at any one time. it's a bit of a pain but that's the only way to link those device to the new PLM

[gweempose]

Well, I appear to be back up and running. A few devices didn't update properly, but they seem to be working fine after manually updating them. I had to do all the leak sensors one at a time, but the Z-wave locks all updated by themselves during the normal PLM replacement process. I guess even though they are battery operated, they are always awake. Thanks for all the help, guys!