Where is the Z-Wave backup stored (Windows 10) and can I change the location?

I believe the zwave backup backs the zwave chip data up onto the ISY. It's then included within the ISY backup.

 

I could be wrong though...

Doesn't the ISY backup everything including Z-Wave? If so, what happens to the already backed up Z-Wave data. And, if the ISY fails, then the latest Z-Wave backup would be gone (but not the last ISY backup). I'm only speculating here

 

 

Doesn't the ISY backup everything including Z-Wave? If so, what happens to the already backed up Z-Wave data. And, if the ISY fails, then the latest Z-Wave backup would be gone (but not the last ISY backup). I'm only speculating here

I don't know... Think of the zwave chip as a small independent embedded computer. My understanding is that a regular ISY backup does not ask the zwave chip to backup first, so if you never do a specific zwave backup you'll never back that piece up.

 

However, chances are you could do a factory reset of ISY and your zwave network will still be intact on the zwave chip, and those nodes will automatically come back. I think... [emoji14]

 

However, chances are you could do a factory reset of ISY and your zwave network will still be intact on the zwave chip, and those nodes will automatically come back. I think... [emoji14]

 

Interesting conversation.  I've been avoiding rebuilding my ISY specifically because it would be difficult to re-include Z-Wave devices that are in inconvenient locations, especially as secure repeaters.  I've done a few factory resets of the ISY, however, and a couple of Aeotec Multisensors that I have on a quick report cycle always show up in the device tree immediately without being re-included (ultimately, I've always restored from backup and haven't done a deliberate test, prior to restore, to find out what's going on with my Z-Wave devices).  That makes me think that you're correct in what you say above, which is encouraging.

My understanding is that an ISY backup includes the entire Z-Wave mesh. I'm just wondering about the independent Z-Wave backup.

My understanding is that an ISY backup includes the entire Z-Wave mesh. I'm just wondering about the independent Z-Wave backup.

This is interesting to me is because I cannot regain the use of Polyglot and Nodelink node servers without a factory reset of the ISY with no restore of a recent backup.  A factory reset along with a restore of a recent backup does not work, as that restores whatever corruption causes the node servers to fail.  I have to go back to an early backup of 5.0.4 to get Insteon, Z-Wave and node servers to all display in the UI. Sadly, on releases subsequent to 5.0.4 I've added a ton of Inseton and Z-Wave devices to my installation (big remodel that couldn't wait, so forward we march...).  It was clearly a poor decision on my part keep installing devices after the node server problem surfaced, but I had contractors trying to do actual work on an actual schedule with an actual budget, so here I am.

 

A rebuilding of my Insteon network should be too bad, with the Topology report, the ability to export/import programs and the "restore device" functionality.  The Z-Wave network is the problem, as I have devices stuck in difficult locations as secure repeaters (crawl space, attic and garage ceiling, etc) that can't be re-included easily.  This network would be a PITA to recreate in place, though it could be done with a long extension cord, a laptop and WiFi - don't have a laptop, though.

 

If I could factory reset my ISY, get my node servers back in operation, restore Z-Wave only (without the corrupt node servers), then I could recreate the Insteon network over a weekend when the Mrs. is busy.  This is the third best possible solution that I can foresee, but the only one that takes no interaction from UDI. 

 

I took the risk of running Alpha software (the node servers were too hard to resist), and UDI provides great support for their released software and hardware.  I just like to have escape routes...

Edited March 14, 20178 yr by Bumbershoot

Hi Bumbershoot,

 

I am so very sorry to hear. Please note that it's fixed in 5.0.9.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

Hi Bumbershoot,

 

I am so very sorry to hear. Please note that it's fixed in 5.0.9.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

Huzzah!  Thank-you, kind sir!

I must have missed something, if you do a Z-Wave backup where is it saved?  If you do an ISY backup does it automatically include a fresh Z-Wave backup?

 

I also find that the Z-Wave backup is slow on my system, taking about 15 minutes.  All I have is one Z-Wave device, Mimo Lite.  It spends a lot of time with the display saying "ZWAVE WAKUP  3)Put back to sleep ZW003_1" which is the Mimo Binary Switch.  Is this normal?

Hello KSchex,

 

Z-Wave backup is stored in ISY, if you do a File | Backup ISY, then the Z-Wave backup will be included in your ISY backup.

 

Yes, it's slow because we have to backup very small pieces of data at a time.

 

With kind regards,

Michel