stusviews Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 Where is the Z-Wave backup stored (Windows 10) and can I change the location?
MWareman Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 I believe the zwave backup backs the zwave chip data up onto the ISY. It's then included within the ISY backup. I could be wrong though...
stusviews Posted March 13, 2017 Author Posted March 13, 2017 Doesn't the ISY backup everything including Z-Wave? If so, what happens to the already backed up Z-Wave data. And, if the ISY fails, then the latest Z-Wave backup would be gone (but not the last ISY backup). I'm only speculating here
MWareman Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 Doesn't the ISY backup everything including Z-Wave? If so, what happens to the already backed up Z-Wave data. And, if the ISY fails, then the latest Z-Wave backup would be gone (but not the last ISY backup). I'm only speculating here I don't know... Think of the zwave chip as a small independent embedded computer. My understanding is that a regular ISY backup does not ask the zwave chip to backup first, so if you never do a specific zwave backup you'll never back that piece up. However, chances are you could do a factory reset of ISY and your zwave network will still be intact on the zwave chip, and those nodes will automatically come back. I think...
Bumbershoot Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 However, chances are you could do a factory reset of ISY and your zwave network will still be intact on the zwave chip, and those nodes will automatically come back. I think... Interesting conversation. I've been avoiding rebuilding my ISY specifically because it would be difficult to re-include Z-Wave devices that are in inconvenient locations, especially as secure repeaters. I've done a few factory resets of the ISY, however, and a couple of Aeotec Multisensors that I have on a quick report cycle always show up in the device tree immediately without being re-included (ultimately, I've always restored from backup and haven't done a deliberate test, prior to restore, to find out what's going on with my Z-Wave devices). That makes me think that you're correct in what you say above, which is encouraging.
stusviews Posted March 14, 2017 Author Posted March 14, 2017 My understanding is that an ISY backup includes the entire Z-Wave mesh. I'm just wondering about the independent Z-Wave backup.
Bumbershoot Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) My understanding is that an ISY backup includes the entire Z-Wave mesh. I'm just wondering about the independent Z-Wave backup. This is interesting to me is because I cannot regain the use of Polyglot and Nodelink node servers without a factory reset of the ISY with no restore of a recent backup. A factory reset along with a restore of a recent backup does not work, as that restores whatever corruption causes the node servers to fail. I have to go back to an early backup of 5.0.4 to get Insteon, Z-Wave and node servers to all display in the UI. Sadly, on releases subsequent to 5.0.4 I've added a ton of Inseton and Z-Wave devices to my installation (big remodel that couldn't wait, so forward we march...). It was clearly a poor decision on my part keep installing devices after the node server problem surfaced, but I had contractors trying to do actual work on an actual schedule with an actual budget, so here I am. A rebuilding of my Insteon network should be too bad, with the Topology report, the ability to export/import programs and the "restore device" functionality. The Z-Wave network is the problem, as I have devices stuck in difficult locations as secure repeaters (crawl space, attic and garage ceiling, etc) that can't be re-included easily. This network would be a PITA to recreate in place, though it could be done with a long extension cord, a laptop and WiFi - don't have a laptop, though. If I could factory reset my ISY, get my node servers back in operation, restore Z-Wave only (without the corrupt node servers), then I could recreate the Insteon network over a weekend when the Mrs. is busy. This is the third best possible solution that I can foresee, but the only one that takes no interaction from UDI. I took the risk of running Alpha software (the node servers were too hard to resist), and UDI provides great support for their released software and hardware. I just like to have escape routes... Edited March 14, 2017 by Bumbershoot
Michel Kohanim Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Hi Bumbershoot, I am so very sorry to hear. Please note that it's fixed in 5.0.9. With kind regards, Michel 2
Bumbershoot Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Hi Bumbershoot, I am so very sorry to hear. Please note that it's fixed in 5.0.9. With kind regards, Michel Huzzah! Thank-you, kind sir!
KSchex Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 I must have missed something, if you do a Z-Wave backup where is it saved? If you do an ISY backup does it automatically include a fresh Z-Wave backup? I also find that the Z-Wave backup is slow on my system, taking about 15 minutes. All I have is one Z-Wave device, Mimo Lite. It spends a lot of time with the display saying "ZWAVE WAKUP 3)Put back to sleep ZW003_1" which is the Mimo Binary Switch. Is this normal?
Michel Kohanim Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Hello KSchex, Z-Wave backup is stored in ISY, if you do a File | Backup ISY, then the Z-Wave backup will be included in your ISY backup. Yes, it's slow because we have to backup very small pieces of data at a time. With kind regards, Michel
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