GQuack Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 I may not be seeing it but is there a variable I can access in an ISY program for the humidity level as reported by an Insteon Thermostat? (2441TH). I am using IR control to turn on and off an A/C unit based on the temperature and that works just great. But..I would also like the ability to turn the A/C unit to it's humidifier setting if the humidity rises to a high enough level. While I see the humidity level on the thermostat display I don't see any way to access that value in a program. Am I missing it? Thank you for any help.
mmb Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 13 hours ago, GQuack said: I may not be seeing it but is there a variable I can access in an ISY program for the humidity level as reported by an Insteon Thermostat? (2441TH). I am using IR control to turn on and off an A/C unit based on the temperature and that works just great. But..I would also like the ability to turn the A/C unit to it's humidifier setting if the humidity rises to a high enough level. While I see the humidity level on the thermostat display I don't see any way to access that value in a program. Am I missing it? Thank you for any help. Do you see the Humidity in the ISY 2441TH device in the Admin console?
mmb Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, GQuack said: Yes. Then in Programs create a variable and assign the Humidity value in the device. Click the button below repeatedly until you something like this. Coincidentally I was working on the same thing. I use a Insteon relay to close a circuit from the furnace fan to the humidifier. I use an IF set of rules including indoor/outdoor temps and humidity as well as next day temp forecast to determine weather to close the circuit. Not sure about your case.
GQuack Posted November 9, 2019 Author Posted November 9, 2019 Huh? Where is this? Where is "assign the Humidity value in the device?" I don't see that option in the program section..Thank you for your help, this is exactly what I was looking for. I just need to set up a program to periodically query the variable, right?
mmb Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GQuack said: Huh? Where is this? Where is "assign the Humidity value in the device?" I don't see that option in the program section..Thank you for your help, this is exactly what I was looking for. I just need to set up a program to periodically query the variable, right? Go into Then section to assign, not the If section to assign the variable. Periodically - this is how I do it. dht11 is a temp and humidity sensor device wu is a weather service Edited November 9, 2019 by mmb
GQuack Posted November 9, 2019 Author Posted November 9, 2019 I am sorry mmb, I don't see that option at all. I am in the Then section. The only choices I have are set to another variable or a number. I don't see that right arrow option anywhere. Is this perhaps a new option? I am running 4.7.3
mmb Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, GQuack said: I am sorry mmb, I don't see that option at all. I am in the Then section. The only choices I have are set to another variable or a number. I don't see that right arrow option anywhere. Is this perhaps a new option? I am running 4.7.3 I thought you were trying to pull the Humidity from the insteon thermostat - you said: is there a variable I can access in an ISY program for the humidity level as reported by an Insteon Thermostat. In this case look for the thermostat and grab the variable. As for the IR control, it looks like you're trying to set variables and have it do something. That I have no clue about but would be nice to have.
GQuack Posted November 9, 2019 Author Posted November 9, 2019 I am trying to pull the humidity level from the thermostat. Based on that value I will take action using the IR control. Look for the variable in the thermostat.....where is that available, I don't see it anywhere?
hart2hart Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 I think variable assignment from devices is a V5 feature.
GlowingHair Posted November 9, 2019 Posted November 9, 2019 In the 4.x release, I had to use a network resource to be able to use the humidity, in an email in my case.
GQuack Posted November 9, 2019 Author Posted November 9, 2019 Well that would explain a lot...keep wondering when version 5 is going to be "official."
mmb Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, GlowingHair said: In the 4.x release, I had to use a network resource to be able to use the humidity, in an email in my case. I wrote my Humidifier program in v5 in the spring - it's very stable. I had the Program disabled until this week and experienced a few problems C/F handling but they're sorted out now. So when you're in "Then" you click the arrow for variable assignment, you don't your devices like I do? Edited November 10, 2019 by mmb
hart2hart Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Well that would explain a lot...keep wondering when version 5 is going to be "official." 5.0.16 and 5.0.15A before it are excellent quality products. No reason to keep waiting. 1
larryllix Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Geeeez. That brings back the memory of trying to extract the temperature from an Insteon thermostat 2441ZTH using a bank of programs. One program per degree to test for each degree from bottom to top. What a PITA. Been using v5 for about four years now and have a hard time remembering the silly things we had to do. Edited November 10, 2019 by larryllix 1
GQuack Posted November 10, 2019 Author Posted November 10, 2019 mmb, I do not have that little right arrow option for variables in version 4.7. Going to have to think seriously now about migrating to V5.
GQuack Posted November 10, 2019 Author Posted November 10, 2019 If version 5 is stable, why hasn't UDI made that the "official" version? They show 4.7.3 as the official although 5.0.16 is now available.
hart2hart Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 If version 5 is stable, why hasn't UDI made that the "official" version? They show 4.7.3 as the official although 5.0.16 is now available. 4.x has been the official branch for a few years. UDI has been updating the underlying architecture and working towards Z-wave certification in the 5.x branch. 5.0.16 (rc1) is solid and there is no reason to hold back. I was very conservative but made the move in June to 5.0.15A. Not a single issue.
mmb Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, GQuack said: If version 5 is stable, why hasn't UDI made that the "official" version? They show 4.7.3 as the official although 5.0.16 is now available. Not sure, but v5.0.16 rc1 has been very stable for me. I initially migrated to 5.0.15a and have updated a couple of times without issue. Also v5 brings Polyglot making the ISY an even more powerful automation platform. I have a few node servers (Nest, weather service, temp/humidity devices) running through polyglot to the ISY. For me it was worth the upgrade.
larryllix Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 7 hours ago, GQuack said: If version 5 is stable, why hasn't UDI made that the "official" version? They show 4.7.3 as the official although 5.0.16 is now available. Has nothing to do with "stable". It has to do with Zwave inclusions not being complete enough.
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