Chris Jahn Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 OUTDATED - A newer version has been released, making this version obsolete. Please see the current release found in the Current Release area of the forums. Please note: As part of Z-Wave Certification, the ISY-994 5.x series no longer supports the 300 Series Z-Wave board. If you want to upgrade to 5.2.0 and have a 300 series board, please check your upgrade discount eligibility and ordering instructions. If you have any other questions, please submit a support ticket Hello, The 5.2.0 (RC3) Release is now available. - New – Optional Basic and Button Press/Sensor Detection nodes for Z-Wave devices (See Z-Wave node level menu in the Admin Console) - New in 5.1.0 o New sensors and alarms have been added and some of the existing ones have possibly changed such that the value reports to a different node. Please check your programs and scenes. § You may need to synchronize some devices to get the new nodes o Some changes to the Admin Console § You now have to press the button when issuing a command for a node on the device page (rather than just change a parameter for the command to automatically be submitted) § All commands are now shown on the device page § The Z-Wave top level and node level menus have changed § The device description for nodes now shows [S0] for devices using S0 security o Various miscellaneous changes throughout the code have been made for Z-Wave certification. Please check your programs and devices and make sure they are continuing to operate as expected. - Upgrading from an ISY 4.x version to this version may require a lot of manual intervention including verifying scenes, programs and program settings are correct. The 5.x ISY firmware and the data files it uses has changed drastically from 4.x. - If you are upgrading from version 5.0.10 or earlier then Devices and programs are migrated in the current version. After upgrading: o Please ensure your device nodes and programs are correct; in some cases you may need to update them. o Wakeup your battery devices after the ISY has restarted and the initial query has finished - The old style of encoding node actions and conditions is no longer supported in the ISY, but these entries are automatically converted to the new format in the Admin Console. Developers, anything that creates programs using the old style of encoding must change to the new format, or, you must instruct your users to convert these programs by loading and saving them using the Admin Console. - Developers, we encourage you to support HTTP chunked transfer encoding as soon as possible because we intend to make it the default option when 5.X is officially released. - If you are upgrading from version 5.0.8 or earlier, you will have to manually update the Adjust Scene entries in all of your programs. - Starting in version 5.0.15A, the event value for the Low status of Insteon FanLinc Motor changed from 63 to 64 Important User/Password changes: - If your current version is 5.0.7 or earlier, then after installing 5.0.8 or later your userid and password will be reset back to the system default. - If you restore a backup created from 5.0.7 or earlier, your userid and password will be reset back to the system default. - If you downgrade from version 5.0.8 or later to version 5.0.7 or earlier then after installing version 5.0.7 or earlier, you will have to Factory Reset the ISY and optionally install a backup taken in that version or earlier. Java runtime memory (when Admin Console is very slow to respond) - If the admin console is slow to respond, it is likely you need to increase the amount of memory allocated to the Java runtime (JRE). - Open the Java Control Panel, select Java tab, press View button, then add or modify the Runtime Parameter -Xmx to the following: o -Xmx512m - Press Ok to close the window, then Press Apply to save the changes Please review the known/recreated bug list to determine if this build is suitable for your installation. If you are looking for stability, please continue using 4.6.x branch. Fixes in this build: 0000758: Programs with Elk conditions not running correctly after ISY reboot 0000761: Z-Wave Certification features/bug fixes 0000762: Setting Z-Wave thermostat setpoint fails when using decimal point values 0000763: Add REST API that allows you to rename a node ( /rest/nodes/<nodeAddress>/change?name=<newName> ) 0000764: Show what writes are pending when showing Node Details in the event viewer Notes: - SSLv3 is now disabled. All models now support TLS1.2 and high grade cipher suites - 4.1.1 backups may corrupt Z-Wave configuration in case they are restored. 4.1.2 and above releases fix this issue - See our Wiki for additional information (e.g. Program Variables) Prerequisites: - You must use the 5.0.9 Admin Console or greater to upgrade to this release (5.2.0). - If you are migrating from 5.0.8 or older than in the Admin Console, you will have to manually close the Initialization progress bar - The latest release of Java must be installed - If you are using MAC Yosemite and Java 1.8.40, please follow these instructions - If you are using Z-Wave, see Z-Wave prerequisites below - If you have not already done so, reconfigure your Climate Module to point to HAM Weather Stations instead of WeatherBug. Without this configuration, ISY will not process Climate Information. This is especially important if your previous station didn't include a station close to you. Install: 1. Backup your ISY (File | Backup ISY) - Do not backup from a version 3.1.6, or 4.1.1 system (there were bugs in those versions that caused the backup to be corrupted) 2. Make sure you have done everything in the Prerequisites section 3. Download firmware - ISY 994i Series including Z-Wave support - ISY 994i ZW, Z, or ZS Series (Z-Wave/Zigbee and/or if you do NOT have a PLM) 4. Login to the Admin Console and choose Help | Manually Upgrade [the name of your system] 5. Choose the file downloaded in step 3 6. After the upgrade, You must clear your Java Cache 7. Launch the 5.2.0 Admin Console and/or Dashboard by going to the following link: - https://isy.universal-devices.com/start.jnlp Note: If you have version 5.0.8 or lower installed on your ISY, then use this link instead: - http://isy.universal-devices.com/994i/5.2.0/admin.jnlp Note: MAC 10.6.x users must use the following links instead - http://isy.universal-devices.com/994i/5.2.0/admin16.jnlp (Admin Console) - http://isy.universal-devices.com/994i/5.2.0/dashboard16.jnlp (Dashboard) 8. To launch the Admin Console directly from your ISY, go to the following link: - http://your.isy.ip.address/admin.jnlp 9. If you are using Z-Wave and upgrading from a 4.x.x or earlier version of the ISY, see Z-Wave migration from 4.x.x branch below 10. Backup your ISY (File | Backup ISY) Z-Wave prerequisitesIf you have not already done so, please ensure your Z-Wave firmware is 4.55 (Z-Wave | Advanced | Z-Wave Firmware Version). If not, you will need to upgrade the Z-Wave firmware to 4.55: 1. To preserve your existing Z-Wave network: - Shift primary control to a secondary controller (such as an Aeon minimote). - Exclude ISY from the Z-Wave network - Upgrade the Z-Wave firmware (Z-Wave | Advanced | Upgrade Z-Wave Firmware) - Include ISY back into Z-Wave network - Shift primary control back to the ISY - NOTE: Even with this procedure, you may have to exclude your door locks and add them back in 2. To do a fresh Z-Wave install: - Upgrade the Z-Wave firmware (Z-Wave | Advanced | Upgrade Z-Wave Firmware) Z-Wave migration from 4.x.x branch All Z-Wave nodes will be recreated when migrating from 4.x.x. to the 5.x.x branch (they will retain the same Z-Wave address). After the ISY has restarted with the new firmware installed: 1. Start the Admin Console and do a Z-Wave -> Tools -> Synchronize Nodes -> All - Do not open ‘Programs’ tab until step 2) - This will add back all of the ISY nodes that were deleted at startup. - If you have multichannel devices, you will see more nodes added - After sync is complete, restart the Admin Console and go to step 2) 2. Open the programs tab - Most old Z-Wave device actions/conditions are automatically converted to the 5.0 framework - Make sure to visually check all programs that contain Z-Wave device actions or conditions. - Programs containing nodes from multichannel devices will have to updated - Node addresses for multichannel devices change from ZW003_143 style to ZW003_002_143 (where _002_ is channel number) - If everything looks good, save the program changes made by the migration. 3. Make an ISY Backup 4. If you are missing any Z-Wave devices you may have to exclude/include them again. For battery devices, make sure they have communications turned on and try doing a synchronize again. 1
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 I am happy to report that (after having issues with 5.1.0 RC2) I successfully installed 5.2.0 RC3, without the numerous phantom nodes that I had with 5.1. 2
rlebel Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) How do I find out what Z wave board version I have? The About box says Z-Wave (21010), the Z wave dropdown doesn't seem to have anything useful, just the software version 4.55.00 Edited August 25, 2020 by rlebel
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rlebel said: 4.55.00 Zwave 300. Edited August 25, 2020 by asbril
keepersg Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 Well, I'm in the same situation. Fortunately, Z-wave is a minor part of my system but I would like to get it up and running again. Per the wiki, I have a request in.
KSchex Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, keepersg said: Well, I'm in the same situation. Fortunately, Z-wave is a minor part of my system but I would like to get it up and running again. Per the wiki, I have a request in. Kind of torques me a bit.
io_guy Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Chris Jahn said: - New – Optional Basic and Button Press/Sensor Detection nodes for Z-Wave devices (See Z-Wave node level menu in the Admin Console) I can't find this anywhere. Can you elaborate?
Chris Jahn Posted August 25, 2020 Author Posted August 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, io_guy said: I can't find this anywhere. Can you elaborate? We'll be updating the documentation pretty quickly here, but for now ... right+click on a Z-Wave node, at the bottom of the menu you will see "Add/Refresh Button Press Node" and if the device supports the Basic CC, "Add/Refresh Basic Node" For the button press node, you go to Z-Wave Options and select which message you want to treat as a button press.
JTsao Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 8 hours ago, KSchex said: Kind of torques me a bit. +1 - I am hoping UDI makes this right - first the Climate Module goes away and now my z-wave module along with z-wave locks, sensors and switches - if someone finds out what they are offering - please post
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, jtsao said: +1 - I am hoping UDI makes this right - first the Climate Module goes away and now my z-wave module along with z-wave locks, sensors and switches - if someone finds out what they are offering - please post Technology evolves and products reach their EOL all the time, and it should not be a huge issue to stay with 5.0.16 until the 500 dongle is available. Most likely 5.1.0 (and now 5.2.0) was designed to take advantage of the 500 capabilities and then, somehow, this resulted in an incompatibility with 300. That is of course regrettable, but part of evolution. The real problem would have been if 5.0.16 had big issues, which it has not. I am slowly replacing my old (non Zwave Plus) devices to take full advantage of Zwave Plus and the 500 dongle, but I know already that soon we will have Zwave 700. The circle of IT life. Edited August 25, 2020 by asbril 2
bobchap Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 I think the real issue closing off a released 5.x to long time users of 4.x. 1
JTsao Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, asbril said: Technology evolves and products reach their EOL all the time, and it should not be a huge issue to stay with 5.0.16 until the 500 dongle is available. Most likely 5.1.0 (and now 5.2.0) was designed to take advantage of the 500 capabilities and then, somehow, this resulted in an incompatibility with 300. That is of course regrettable, but part of evolution. The real problem would have been if 5.0.16 had big issues, which it has not. I am slowly replacing my old (non Zwave Plus) devices to take full advantage of Zwave Plus and the 500 dongle, but I know already that soon we will have Zwave 700. The circle of IT life. Completely understand. Ironically, a couple of weeks ago, after encountering 5.1 upgrade issues, I did a factory reset on the z-wave dongle and re-enrolled everything to get it working with version 5.1.0 - and since then, z-wave operation has been noticeably improved vs. the previous few years.
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, jtsao said: Completely understand. Ironically, a couple of weeks ago, after encountering 5.1 upgrade issues, I did a factory reset on the z-wave dongle and re-enrolled everything to get it working with version 5.1.0 - and since then, z-wave operation has been noticeably improved vs. the previous few years. Having more than 70 Zwave devices, that would be tough for me to do.
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris Jahn said: For the button press node, you go to Z-Wave Options and select which message you want to treat as a button press. Chris, I apologize for my ignorance but I am not sure to understand what a button press is and what it is supposed to do.
blueman2 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, KSchex said: If you are waiting on this to fix problems and have a 300 Series, like me, you are cooked. UDI web site says 500's are out of stock. I guess it depends on what problems you are having. 5.0.16C is working fine for me. There are no critical new features or device support in 5.2.0 from my perspective. I have about 80 insteon and 40 z-wave devices working fine. I probably will move to 5.2.0 because I can (I already have the 500 module installed), but would not be unhappy staying on 5.0.16C for the next 6-12 months. Edited August 25, 2020 by blueman2 2
tazman Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 I contacted UDI sales and they sent the link for upgrade information https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Z-Wave:_Ordering/Assembly_Instructions#Discounts but I asked if the board would be what the Polisy would use when that takes over ISY functions but did not receive an answer. I only have 2 Z-Wave devices so until I'm missing out on features I think I will stay with the 5.1 that I was able to make happen with my 300 board.
JTsao Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) It looks like UDI is going to offer a discount on a 500 series module to those of us with the 300. Looking at UDI's online store, they also have an external z-wave module - I am wondering if that is also a replacement option that could perform better than the 500 series. Anyone know about this? EDIT: not an option - found this: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/28001-new-external-zwave-module/ I would also be very interested on the time frame for moving the ISY to the Polisy and the future Polisy z-wave module - can anyone from UDI comment on this? Edited August 25, 2020 by jtsao found answer
gviliunas Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 Successfully upgraded from v5.1.0 to v5.2.0. No issues encountered and everything, including Z-wave devices, is working well. Thanks for the great development effort! 1
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 I just noticed that "Heal Network" disappeared in 5.2.0 . Am I right in assuming that a manual Heal is no longer necessary ? 2
Michel Kohanim Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 Hello all, 1. We have the dongles in stock: https://www.universal-devices.com/product/z-wave-module/ 2. We do offer discounts: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Z-Wave:_Ordering/Assembly_Instructions#Discounts 3. You don't have to upgrade if you want to stay with 300 series With kind regards, Michel 1
lilyoyo1 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, bobchap said: I think the real issue closing off a released 5.x to long time users of 4.x. Not necessarily. You can go to 5.0.16C. If 5.2 starts taking full advantage of 500 series features, you'll want to upgrade anyway for that.
DaveF Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Chris Jahn said: We'll be updating the documentation pretty quickly here, but for now ... right+click on a Z-Wave node, at the bottom of the menu you will see "Add/Refresh Button Press Node" and if the device supports the Basic CC, "Add/Refresh Basic Node" For the button press node, you go to Z-Wave Options and select which message you want to treat as a button press. The previous release already added all the 'Basic' nodes when I synchronized. Can I remove them?
lilyoyo1 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, jtsao said: It looks like UDI is going to offer a discount on a 500 series module to those of us with the 300. Looking at UDI's online store, they also have an external z-wave module - I am wondering if that is also a replacement option that could perform better than the 500 series. Anyone know about this? EDIT: not an option - found this: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/28001-new-external-zwave-module/ I would also be very interested on the time frame for moving the ISY to the Polisy and the future Polisy z-wave module - can anyone from UDI comment on this? Michel stated previously that polisy will use an external usb zwave stick (off the shelf) once the isy is ported over. Hopefully something like this since it's low cost. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Silicon-Labs/SLUSB001A?qs=u16ybLDytRbJsMfgk3EnSA%3D%3D&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7ZL6BRCmARIsAH6XFDJ-lvwzGLHIc0_pKnZut3Orun9s2sY1lYRA3HXn4iQB3mEpWTe3-_YaAs71EALw_wcB In regards to timeframe of the port itself happening. I would guess late next year or 2022 as far as official release. It looks like they're finalizing certification and then could start beta next year for port. Everything I say is an assumption based off UDI's history. Only they know their timeline and I can't see them saying exactly when Edited August 25, 2020 by lilyoyo1
asbril Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: Michel stated previously that polisy will use an external usb zwave stick (off the shelf) once the isy is ported over. Hopefully something like this since it's low cost. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Silicon-Labs/SLUSB001A?qs=u16ybLDytRbJsMfgk3EnSA%3D%3D&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7ZL6BRCmARIsAH6XFDJ-lvwzGLHIc0_pKnZut3Orun9s2sY1lYRA3HXn4iQB3mEpWTe3-_YaAs71EALw_wcB There we go................. A 700 series Zwave stick for $ 19
Michel Kohanim Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 @asbril, At the moment, I very much doubt we'll have anything at $19.00 for any hardware. Z-Wave certification alone, with membership fees, is $$$$$. With kind regards, Michel
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