mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Hi, did this ever get resolved? Using UI and Firmware 5.3 with a new BE469. Am unable to get options but lock is working. 6 Nodes showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Zwave version: 6.82.01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smacbride Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 For me the options went away when I upgraded from 5.016 to 5.3.0. The locks are still working, just no options. I guess you have to use the generic "Set Configuration" and know what the parameter values would be for the various options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oper8 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I have the same problem. Just added a new BE469ZP, Firmware ver. 0.11.0 I'm running ISY on 5.3.3 I don't have Options showing for the new lock and also, what is most concerning, the status of the lock is showing "unknown". I can control the lock from ISY and I can also change the user password. But I cannot retrieve the status and also see the options to be able to change them. Is there a fix available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, oper8 said: I have the same problem. Just added a new BE469ZP, Firmware ver. 0.11.0 I'm running ISY on 5.3.3 I don't have Options showing for the new lock and also, what is most concerning, the status of the lock is showing "unknown". I can control the lock from ISY and I can also change the user password. But I cannot retrieve the status and also see the options to be able to change them. Is there a fix available ? Does your UI match your firmware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oper8 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Yes, I have UI and F/W both showing "Insteon_UD994 v 5.3.3". Done more research into the issue and it seems it all about z-wave having communication issues. I have over 20 z-wave devices, including 2 Schlage locks, plus over two dozen Insteon devices all working together. Performance is 99% but with only these odd z-wave issues caused only by the battery powered devices. I just added a AEON repeater but did not see a significant improvement. I'm looking at better ways to heal the network, the current ISY version does not have the whole network healing feature as before. I'm also looking at more advanced ways to troubleshoot communication issues. I hope a newer ISY version might address this. I love ISY and want to continue to use it but moving more on the z-wave devices and retiring the old INSTEON items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oper8 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 More on this. Not only that "Options" are no longer available in the new 5.3.3 but there is something wrong in terms of communication. I have two locks fairly close to each other, one that was installed with the previous 5.0.16 version, showing Options and all and no comm. errors. The second lock was recently installed under 5.3.3, I'm missing "options" and showing some strange comm. errors when query. The lock works but it seems unreliable with these errors. I added the Aeotec gen 7 repeater and there is ZERO improvement. Is there any chance the 5.3.3 will be fixed or is there a way to go back to the older 5.0.16 firmware that was working better ? Here is the event viewer log with the errors: Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:43 PM : [ZWAVE-TX ] ... Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:48 PM : [ZW-TX-FAILED] enc=Ok uid=36.0 cmd=0x62.02 DOOR_LOCK Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:48 PM : [ZWAVE-TX-E ] ZWAVE-WAIT Waiting for retry 1 of 2 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:48 PM : [ZWAVE-TE ] [62/02] CC=0x62 cmd=0x02 [] ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE To=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:48 PM : [ZWAVE-TX ZW036_1] [98/40] Security Nonce Get ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE To=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:50 PM : [ZWAVE-RX ZW036_1] [98/80] Security Nonce Report - nonce=[7D51F33F450FF722] ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE From=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:50 PM : [ZWAVE-RX ZW036_1] [98/40] Security Nonce Get ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE From=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:50 PM : [ZWAVE-TX ] ... Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:54 PM : [ZW-TX-FAILED] enc=Ok uid=36.0 cmd=0x62.02 DOOR_LOCK Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:54 PM : [ZWAVE-TX-E ] ZWAVE-WAIT Waiting for retry 2 of 2 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:55 PM : [ZWAVE-TE ] [62/02] CC=0x62 cmd=0x02 [] ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE To=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:55 PM : [ZWAVE-TX ZW036_1] [98/40] Security Nonce Get ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE To=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:56 PM : [ZWAVE-RX ZW036_1] [98/80] Security Nonce Report - nonce=[AF5601DFC582273E] ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE From=0x24 Tue 04/13/2021 08:20:57 PM : [ZWAVE-RX ZW036_1] [98/40] Security Nonce Get ACK,AUTO,EXPLORE From=0x24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 @oper8, Please submit a ticket. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oper8 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Sorry Michael, I have to report that I opened a ticket indeed but got nowhere with it. The recommendation that came from your support was to go back to 5.0.16C I'm quite disappointed and I now regret upgrading to 5.3.3 Everything was working fine for me with 5.0.16C. And I don't know if going back to the older ISY firmware will not cause more trouble.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, oper8 said: Sorry Michael, I have to report that I opened a ticket indeed but got nowhere with it. The recommendation that came from your support was to go back to 5.0.16C I'm quite disappointed and I now regret upgrading to 5.3.3 Everything was working fine for me with 5.0.16C. And I don't know if going back to the older ISY firmware will not cause more trouble.... Sounds like it's a programming issue that needs to be fixed in a future firmware update. Unfortunately not all issues can be solved via troubleshooting steps. In your case, while it's not the answer you wanted it was the best answer given. The same happened to me with my yale locks. I had to go back to 5.0.16 due to issues with 5.3 and 5.3.2. This update seems to allow them to work properly (time will tell once i have time to test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oper8 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hi lilyoyo1, How did you go back to 5.0.16 ? I installed several new devices since 5.0.16 and my last backup on that version does not have them. Will I have to join them again ? I'm quite nervous about the downgrade, but I would very much want to go back to that version. I really don't like how the z-wave devices are showing with multiple nodes in 5.3.3, lots of things don't make sense, it's all super un-friendly and counter intuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hart2hart Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hi lilyoyo1, How did you go back to 5.0.16 ? I installed several new devices since 5.0.16 and my last backup on that version does not have them. Will I have to join them again ? I'm quite nervous about the downgrade, but I would very much want to go back to that version. I really don't like how the z-wave devices are showing with multiple nodes in 5.3.3, lots of things don't make sense, it's all super un-friendly and counter intuitive. If you added zwave devices, wait for other advice as I’m less than a novice with them. Otherwise,Restore your last 5.0.16C backup. Factory reset the devices you’ve added and ten add them again including any scene setup. You will need to recreate any new programs so copy them into a text document to make it easy to create them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oper8 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I will rather wait. Maybe a new version will fix this. So far everything is working with the "crippled" lock, but working. I have at least a dozen new devices added since 5.0.16 and lots of new programs and scenes. It will be almost like rebuilding my entire network. Note for self: never jump in upgrading to bleeding edge new version until all the bugs are identified and fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I have version 5.3.3 and there is still no options for Schlage Locks like there was in the older versions that had a nice simple screen to allow you to set the pin length and other behaviors. Sure would like that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingman1487 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 There is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wingman1487 said: There is though. 5.3.3 options tab must be invisible on some screens. Sorta like the invisible type UDI uses with their instructions ? Edited June 18, 2021 by lilyoyo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rchorowitz Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I am having similar issues. The option button is missing. I have had to factory reset the lock several times to get it to connect. The first time only the lock populated. Several attempts later it added "Access Control Alarm", "Home Security Alarm", and "Intrusion Alarm" Is there any additional documentation regarding Schlage and Configurations? I also have a Nexia bridge, but cannot use both the ISY and Nexia. The Nexia interface makes keeping track of user names, codes, etc much easier to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, rchorowitz said: I am having similar issues. The option button is missing. I have had to factory reset the lock several times to get it to connect. The first time only the lock populated. Several attempts later it added "Access Control Alarm", "Home Security Alarm", and "Intrusion Alarm" Is there any additional documentation regarding Schlage and Configurations? I also have a Nexia bridge, but cannot use both the ISY and Nexia. The Nexia interface makes keeping track of user names, codes, etc much easier to manage. You can't have 2 controllers. You'll have to choose 1. Documentation for your lock can be found on schlage's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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