Loss of IR support on Polisy

[GQuack]

I’ve just migrated from the ISY to the Polisy and am bemoaning the loss of IR support, which I was using to control lights and ceiling fan. I found the previous post on this topic and understand there is no plan to provide IR support going forward.

@lilyoyo1 you mentioned in that post about running the Polisy in tandem with the ISY. How exactly would that work given the PLM is now connected to the Polisy? A network resource approach?

[Geddy]

@GQuack

I believe you're referencing this thread - 

 

Always a good idea to actually include the link if you're bringing up an old topic that's been closed. 

Perhaps @lilyoyo1 can explain the process and help you further. 

 

[MrBill]

4 hours ago, GQuack said:

I’ve just migrated from the ISY to the Polisy and am bemoaning the loss of IR support, which I was using to control lights and ceiling fan. I found the previous post on this topic and understand there is no plan to provide IR support going forward.

@lilyoyo1 you mentioned in that post about running the Polisy in tandem with the ISY. How exactly would that work given the PLM is now connected to the Polisy? A network resource approach?

You need to load the "No PLM" firmware onto the ISY.  Then it's possible to create Network Resources to update variables, run programs, etc on the other device.  Since the 994 has the IR receiver you would likely create programs there, that instead of running then blocks on the 994, instead use the API to Run Then of a program on the Polisy. 

https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Developers:API:REST_Interface#Programs

It would be quite clever if someone created a node server that facilitated this, but it can be done simply with Network Resources alone.

 

[lilyoyo1]

7 hours ago, GQuack said:

I’ve just migrated from the ISY to the Polisy and am bemoaning the loss of IR support, which I was using to control lights and ceiling fan. I found the previous post on this topic and understand there is no plan to provide IR support going forward.

@lilyoyo1 you mentioned in that post about running the Polisy in tandem with the ISY. How exactly would that work given the PLM is now connected to the Polisy? A network resource approach?

That depends on your setup. With just a single PLM, you would need to use network resources and send rest commands to your polisy. The isy994 would need to use the zwave only firmware so that it doesnt lock up without a plm attached. That isnt something I have personally done so I wouldnt be able to help you with the scripting.

[GQuack]

Had no idea there is such a thing as “no PLM” firmware. I will check it out assuming I can find it, thank,you.

[hart2hart]

You need to load the "No PLM" firmware onto the ISY.  Then it's possible to create Network Resources to update variables, run programs, etc on the other device.  Since the 994 has the IR receiver you would likely create programs there, that instead of running then blocks on the 994, instead use the API to Run Then of a program on the Polisy. 
https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Developers:API:REST_Interface#Programs
It would be quite clever if someone created a node server that facilitated this, but it can be done simply with Network Resources alone.
 

Thanks.

[apostolakisl]

I don't know about "no plm" firmware.  But you can just run ISY with a plm then "delete plm" and it will no longer run in safe mode.  This does not erase the plm, it just removes it from ISY.  So you can just "borrow" your PLM from polisy then return it when done.  I used a super old ISY 99i as the IR relay since it is otherwise useless. 

See my post on how to make an old ISY into a IR relay using network resources.

 

Edited July 20, 2022 by apostolakisl

[Geddy]

1 hour ago, GQuack said:

Had no idea there is such a thing as “no PLM” firmware. I will check it out assuming I can find it, thank,you.

It’s not hard to find…it’s in every ISY994 Firmware release announcement.  
 

for 5.3.4: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/33287-534-update-for-isy994-july-30-2021/

 

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3.  Download firmware

  -  ISY 994i Series including Z-Wave support

  -  ISY 994i ZW, Z, or ZS Series (Z-Wave/Zigbee and/or if you do NOT have a PLM)

 

You’d download the one that says “if you do NOT have a PLM”. 
 

This way the ISY wouldn’t boot into safe mode if/when the PLM isn’t connected when it boots up.  
 

The help -> about section will look different too, but when you use the ISY Launcher to open the admin console FW/UI will still match.  So once you do that make sure they match…looking at the part before the version numbers (if I remember correctly).