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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, DennisC said:

I'm sorry, but I need to disagree with you. On pg3x last night, the reinstall button would not work. The node servers needed to be deleted before being able to install the new version 

Just updated Tesla from .18 to .19 using the button.  Did you try power cycling first?

 

Curiously, it still is asking me to restart to update to .19, even though it is running .19.  I "x'd" out of the message, restarted, and it seems to still be gone.

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1 hour ago, apostolakisl said:

No, I have polisy and restart of nodes or even the entire polisy with a power cycle or otherwise does not update my nodes.  Using the store to get to the "reinstall here" does work.

It's difficult to say if automatic updates will/won't work as it depends.  Basically around the switch from PG3 3.0.x to PG3 3.1.x the format for node server store entries and how it tracks installed versions changes.  So if a node server was last installed using a 3.0.x version of PG3, it probably won't automatically update.  If it was installed with a fairly recent 3.1.x version, it probably will.  

Automatic updates and re-install are broken in PG3x 3.1.21 and 3.1.22 (maybe in earlier versions too.  This should be fixed in version 3.1.23 which is in release testing now.

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1 hour ago, MrBill said:

@apostolakisl I read that you're speaking of Polisy and PG3

@DennisC I read that you're speaking of eisy and PG3x

those are not the same.

It was my impression that they are the same software running on different hardware.  It has always (or almost always) been my impression that bugs were largely hardware independent assuming the hardware isn't massively different.  For example, bugs in an iphone app usually exist the same across many generations of iphone.  Perhaps I am wrong and eisy is running different software than polisy or maybe there is a hardware dependent issue, but for something like doing an automatic update, that really seems like it would be strictly a software issue.

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38 minutes ago, apostolakisl said:

It was my impression that they are the same software running on different hardware.  It has always (or almost always) been my impression that bugs were largely hardware independent assuming the hardware isn't massively different.  For example, bugs in an iphone app usually exist the same across many generations of iphone.  Perhaps I am wrong and eisy is running different software than polisy or maybe there is a hardware dependent issue, but for something like doing an automatic update, that really seems like it would be strictly a software issue.

Feature wise, PG3 and PG3x are roughly the same.  However, there are some areas where PG3x was re-designed to make it easier to enable some future features and to improve the security of node servers.  The long term goal is to migrate all Polisy users to PG3x. 

PG3x changes how node servers are installed and controlled.  Thus the re-install bug/auto update bug in PG3x but not in PG3.

I'm already starting to enable features on PG3x that can't really be implemented on PG3.  For example, the next release of PG3x will pop up messages to notify you of available system updates and when an upgrade is in progress.  

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I have a private garage in my condo building. Though I have my own electricity (FP&L South Florida) account for the garage, the main breaker is elsewhere in the building and I have no access to it. The result is that I get 30 amps in the garage and because there is also a A/C unit, a fridge etc in the garage, when I charge my Tesla at 30 amps it triggers the breaker (to which I have no access).

As such I set the charging to 20 amps, which is more than enough for over night charging.  The Tesla does not let me set 20 amps as default and defaults to 32 Amps. I don't want to forget setting it manually every time.

I created two programs : (1) Whenever my MyQ garage door opens (using the MyQ Node Server), it sets the amps to 20 (using the Tesla Node Server). (2) At 12 am (with repeat every 1/2 hour), charging set to 20 Amps (using the Tesla Node Server).

However, it does not look that these 'instructions' get to the Tesla. 

These are my programs. Anyone has an idea ?

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@asbrilthe car should remember what is set for each location. Can the app access the car when it is parked in the garage? How are you charging the car? If you are plugging into a 30 amp receptacle the charging should be limited to 24 amps. It sounds like there is something wrong with your charging setup and it is best practice to not rely on the vehicle to limit charging.

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19 minutes ago, tazman said:

it is best practice to not rely on the vehicle to limit charging

That is exactly the issue because sometimes when I park it shows at the default 32 Amps. You are probably right about the 24 Amps, but to be safe I prefer 20 Amps which is well sufficient for my needs. If I ever need a faster charge, there are chargers in the building and nearby we have Tesla Super Chargers. However in 99% of the time, 20 Amps is ok for me.

My Tesla car is new and for sure I still have things to learn. What I really want to know is if others have used the Tesla Node Server to set the Amps of the car.

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30 minutes ago, asbril said:

That is exactly the issue because sometimes when I park it shows at the default 32 Amps. You are probably right about the 24 Amps, but to be safe I prefer 20 Amps which is well sufficient for my needs. If I ever need a faster charge, there are chargers in the building and nearby we have Tesla Super Chargers. However in 99% of the time, 20 Amps is ok for me.

My Tesla car is new and for sure I still have things to learn. What I really want to know is if others have used the Tesla Node Server to set the Amps of the car.

You did not answer what you are using to charge the vehicle. If you use the mobile connector with a 30 amp plug on it the car will know it is a 30 amp circuit and will be limited to the 24 amps. If your car does not get a signal in the garage there probably is not going to be a reliable way to set it other then the device being used to charge the car being setup properly to tell the car what is available.

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13 minutes ago, tazman said:

You did not answer what you are using to charge the vehicle. If you use the mobile connector with a 30 amp plug on it the car will know it is a 30 amp circuit and will be limited to the 24 amps. If your car does not get a signal in the garage there probably is not going to be a reliable way to set it other then the device being used to charge the car being setup properly to tell the car what is available.

I am using the mobile connector. It is true that I do not have an excellent cell connection in the garage, but the car is also connected to wifi. Unfortunately, my experience so far is, unless I set it manually to 20 Amps, that it defaults to 32 Amps and not 24.

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18 minutes ago, asbril said:

I am using the mobile connector. It is true that I do not have an excellent cell connection in the garage, but the car is also connected to wifi. Unfortunately, my experience so far is, unless I set it manually to 20 Amps, that it defaults to 32 Amps and not 24.

The mobile connector with a 30 amp end should only allow 24 amp if it is drawing more then that something is wrong. If you plug in it should say 24/24 amps and if you lower it to 20 amps on the screen of the car it should remember that setting for that area but my thought is if there is no GPS signal it might not remember it

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There are several different cable ends for the mobile connector.  Which end are you using? 32 amps sounds like a 14-50.  Are there any adapters between the mobile connector and the wall plug?  Are you using the Tesla mobile connector?

Posted
17 minutes ago, mjrush said:

There are several different cable ends for the mobile connector.  Which end are you using? 32 amps sounds like a 14-50.  Are there any adapters between the mobile connector and the wall plug?  Are you using the Tesla mobile connector?

14-50 / Tesla mobile connector (no adapters)

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I think a 14-50 outlet should be on a dedicated 50 amp circuit.  I would look into changing that outlet to a 30 amp.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, asbril said:

14-50 / Tesla mobile connector (no adapters)

That is you problem right there!

Posted
19 minutes ago, tazman said:

That is you problem right there!

I understand. That is why I want to use the Tesla Node Server so that I don't have the expense of changing outlet and connector.

Posted
3 hours ago, asbril said:

I understand. That is why I want to use the Tesla Node Server so that I don't have the expense of changing outlet and connector.

I will say your electrical situation is unsafe and not proper but will not harp on that, it is up to you what risk you take.

Have you tried controlling maybe the HVAC from the node server to verify your connection to the car? If you are trying to set the charge rate while the car is sleeping it might not get through.

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