glacier991 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Well, as I plod along building my new eisy system (I have had ISY for about 6 years and chose not to migrate but start afresh with eisy) I have encountered some frustrations in adding Z wave devices, most notably among the frustrations have been motion sensors. My questions are 1. When you add and then remove a Z wave device, the node that was created is presumably vacated, yet as you continue to add devices the number assigned (node asigned?) continues to go up. How can you reclaim the vacant nodes, or is that a lasting testament to your issues previously? 2. I was dealing with a recalcitrant Aeotec Multisensor, and added and removed it a few times. As I as looking at the mess on the screen this am (all the add on nodes pretty soon clutter things up) it appears that that sensor is listed as ZY-023 and ZY-024. The motion sensors do not track exactly, but when they are both off, motion in front of the known sensor still seems to trigger the "phantom" sensor. Question 2 is - can you actually add a Z wave device more than once? Question 2A is if in fact that is what has happened here how do I get rid of the "phantom" motion sensor (and associated nodes)? Thanks for the continuing assistance fellow UDI'ers. Chris
Geddy Posted January 18 Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, glacier991 said: How can you reclaim the vacant nodes, or is that a lasting testament to your issues previously? You cannot. That's Z-Wave "standard". It will continue to advance until a point (I forget where it gets to before re-starting, but I've know many have commented on this in the past). Maybe look for posts from @lilyoyo1 about it. 7 minutes ago, glacier991 said: Question 2 is - can you actually add a Z wave device more than once? Question 2A is if in fact that is what has happened here how do I get rid of the "phantom" motion sensor (and associated nodes)? I'm not strong enough on Z-Wave to answer this one. I'll just revert to what I've seen a lot of other users suggest is that you must "exclude" a device before "including" it. You might have attempted to add it while something is still in the IoX system so you might need to remove all the nodes dealing with the motion sensor(s) and then factory reset the sensor and exclude/include to bring them back in cleanly. I'm sure more advanced z-wave users will chime in and help you out for sure.
Techman Posted January 18 Posted January 18 The only way to reclaim vacant zwave addresses is to do a factory rest on the Zmatter dongle. If both motion sensors were in the linking mode at the same time it could have caused the link tables to get crossed. You need to remove a zwave device before you can include it again. It's probably best to remove your motion sensors and then include them, one at a time. Verify that the one you included is working properly before moving on to the next.
glacier991 Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 (edited) There are not 2 sensors involved in this issue, just a single one, which appears to have 2 addresses. I am wondering if what I thought was a successful exclude did not happen and somehow I got the same sensor registered twice? And, if this IS the case, how do exclude only one instance? Thanks for your help! Edited January 18 by glacier991
lilyoyo1 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 minute ago, glacier991 said: There are not 2 sensors involved in this issue, just a single one, which appears to have 2 addresses. I am wondering if what I thought was a successful exclude did not happen and somehow I got the same sensor registered twice? And, if this IS the case, how do exclude only one instance? Thanks for your help! Something must have corrupted the add as Zwave devices will only work with 1 controller. I would remove from the system, delete the additional devices and follow the recommendations from above when re-adding.
glacier991 Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 Reading the replies (for which I think you) I am pondering what might have occurred. I am an experienced user and understand the exlude before include mantra and follow it. However, if you plan to do a factory reset prior to reinstallation, is the order important? i.e. should you exclude prior to a factory reset, or does doing the rest prior to exclusion screw things up somehow? I may have done a factory reset prior to the exclude. I did think that the exclusions all worked prior to trying to reinstall. 1
Techman Posted January 18 Posted January 18 It's best to do an exclude before a factory reset as this should clear out the link tables in the device. If you did a factory reset on the controller before excluding the device then you shoiuld probably do a factory reset on the device before including it.
glacier991 Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 11 minutes ago, Techman said: It's best to do an exclude before a factory reset as this should clear out the link tables in the device. If you did a factory reset on the controller before excluding the device then you shoiuld probably do a factory reset on the device before including it. Thanks!
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