gschoffstall Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Gentlemen, I previously posted when having trouble integrating the Hue lights and bridge with the EISY controller. With your help and suggestions, I got it functioning using a Hue bridge through Polyglot. That is until a power failure causes the system to just lose its' mind. After the power is restored, everything I have programmed on Insteon devices works. The system sees the Hue hardware, and I can see and manipulate the Insteon and Hue lights. But the Hue automation refuses to work. Eventually, if I reset, repower, restart the EISY and Hue bridge in the right order, it MIGHT start working. But it's really starting to wear on me. Why does it have to be so hard to recover from a power failure? Is there a way to get things restarted in the right recovery order without all the drama? Thanks in advance.
Techman Posted April 2 Posted April 2 It's best to put the EISY, the Hue bridge, and your Router, etc. on a UPS. It's cheap insurance. After a power failure when power is restored their exists the potential of a voltage surge which can wreak havoc on electronics. Re: your "no clue", try rebooting the EISY
gschoffstall Posted April 2 Author Posted April 2 Yes, after all the fiddling around and everything but the 3 related Hue programs was working, I tried power cycling the EISY. This cleared the "Not loaded" "Out of Memory" messages, but the EISY and Hue bridge were previously power cycled. As regards to this configuration, it seems very fragile and subject to guessing which hardware wants what and when. More prominent and descriptive error messages would sure help. And, yes, now the EISY, Insteon interface, router, and Hue bridge are all on a UPS. ISY994i and Insteon stuff was never this touchy. To me, it seems to have more to do with how the Hue bridge talks to the EISY. It would be nice if EISY talked directly to the HUE devices, but unfortunately the add-on module that does Zigbee doesn't do HUE. But thanks for your response.
Ross Posted April 4 Posted April 4 On 4/2/2024 at 11:57 AM, Techman said: It's best to put the EISY, the Hue bridge, and your Router, etc. on a UPS. It's cheap insurance. After a power failure when power is restored their exists the potential of a voltage surge which can wreak havoc on electronics. Re: your "no clue", try rebooting the EISY @Techman I know nothing about UPS's. Would you please make a recommendation of one? If the power does go out, do you have a program that then shuts down the EISY, Router, etc.? I'm not sure how long the UPS can keep things going after the power goes off. Thank you, Ross
Geddy Posted April 4 Posted April 4 On 4/2/2024 at 5:42 PM, gschoffstall said: To me, it seems to have more to do with how the Hue bridge talks to the EISY. @gschoffstall do you have an IP reservation for the Hue Bridge? Sadly, the plugin is always looking to the same IP address for the bridge rather than communication to connect to the bridge. If you had a full power loss where all network devices lost power and connection then it’s possible they rejoined at a different IP when things booted back up. I use eisy and Hue plugin and have lost power from time to time and don’t have the bridge on a UPS and things come back as expected when power is restored. I figure because I do have IP reserved for the bridge. On 4/2/2024 at 5:42 PM, gschoffstall said: I tried power cycling the EISY. This cleared the "Not loaded" "Out of Memory" messages, Where did you get these errors? This sounds more like your firmware and UI don’t match on admin console. Make sure you check admin console help -> about and make sure firmware and UI match. If they don’t, clear your Java cache (checking all three boxes in the process). Then download a new start.jnlp file from the UD Website (click on “My ISY” on the top right of the home page.
Geddy Posted April 4 Posted April 4 51 minutes ago, Ross said: I know nothing about UPS's. Would you please make a recommendation of one? Depends what you plan to plug into it. If just general internet equipment, eisy, and other IoT bridge type devices then a “basic” UPS should be just fine. You might want to have a filter on the plug if the PLM is near because some UPS can suck Insteon, but try without first if you don’t have an available filter. I run this UPS for modem, router, switch, eisy, and yolink bridge. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FWAZEIU think about what you connect to it. Kind of pointless (IMO) to connect something like a Hue Bridge. If the power is out none of the bulbs will work…why keep the bridge up? Although, you also need to consider how long your power outages might be. If you have a lot and for long duration you might need a higher grade battery backup. APC and CyberPower are solid names. Some feel strongly about one over the other, but I find them both reliable from my experience. I don’t try to power big equipment for many hours so just need basic to keep things up. 1 hour ago, Ross said: If the power does go out, do you have a program that then shuts down the EISY, Router, etc.? I'm not sure how long the UPS can keep things going after the power goes off. No, I just leave things to their own. If the battery doesn’t last it will stop powering anything connected to it. Most electronics should be okay. If I’m home I usually power things down if the power stays out. The UPS can then buffer against any potential surges when power is restored. I also have whole home surge protection. 1
Recommended Posts