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Complex ISY994i Pro, Polisy, Insteon PLM, ZMatter card to eisy migration planning


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I’m going to bite the bullet and finally combine all of my accumulated UD gear into a single eisy (assuming they come back in stock). I’d love for you experts to weigh in on my upgrade plan.

Here’s my current, reliable if old, setup:

  • ISY994i Pro (Instron and Z-Wave devices)
  • Polisy with PG 2 & 3 Plugins and lots of integrations
  • ZMatter card (never installed)
  • Instron serial PLM
  • MobiLinc portal for remote APIs

I'm planning to migrate all that to eisy using the following path. Please let me know if you think this will not end well.

  1. On the existing isy994, migrate from the Instron serial to a new USB-based PLM. Let it run for a couple of days to ensure all is well since it’s the house's core.
  2. Put my never-installed ZMatter card into a ZMatter USB Enclosure from the UD store.
  3. Plug the now ZMatter dongle into the eisy
  4. Do the backup migration from the ISY to the eisy
  5. Migrate remote management to the ISY Portal
  6. Troubleshoot Z-Wave
  7. Do the backup migration from the Polisy to the eisy
  8. Profit?

Thanks for your assistance!

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@FerventGeek 

I just want to ask and confirm...

Are you currently using an ISY99 (as your text says)? Or are you using an ISY994? There's no migration path from ISY99 as those were discontinued ages ago.

The old ISY99/994 cannot use the USB PLM so you can't set it up with your existing device.

For the rest, you might be causing issues and a lot of extra work trying to change from serial to USB based PLM, but I think it can be achieved if you follow the directions and perform the PLM replacement process along the way.

Mobilinc portal will not work with eisy so will more than likely break what you've got. But I don't think it worked with Polisy either so not sure what you're doing with it. You've probably got it directly feeding to the old ISY (99 or 994?) device rather than IoX on the Polisy.

There's no migration from PG2 to PG3 as it's a completely different system. So more than likely most of those integrations will be lost and need to be purchased and setup in PG3x and set back up any scenes and programs you have for them.

First and foremost, in the ISY99/994 device right click on the ROOT program folder and select "Copy Folder to Clipboard". Then paste that into a text editor (for Windows use Notepad). DO NOT USE A PROGRAM LIKE MICROSOFT WORD! This will give you a full (text) copy of all your programs so you can set them up following getting the eisy/PG3 system up and running.

 

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Thanks Geddy!

994i Pro - Thanks, I updated the post

USB PLM - I bought it as soon as Instron had them back in the store. Seems like the right route to eliminate the need for the blue adapter cable (with another inline processor), and it's 10 years newer. Since that is the most critical interface, I'm trying to make it as reliable as possible. So in this regard the ISY994 to eisy is a one way trip and there's no way to know if going from the 994 on it's serial PLM to the eisy on a new PLM will work?

Portal - Yes I'm letting go og MobiLink. And I already interface all my external integrations via a custom AWS Lambda function, so that will be a single point for any modifications to the XML API. (The lambda is an XML<->JSON gateway with additional features and fine-grain RBAC auth.)

Polyglot - I'm running both 2 & 3 on the Polisy as there are a couple of legacy PG2 plugins that aren't available in the store. I'm assuming that the eisy can run both Polyglot's like the Polisy. If not, it's a dealbreaker for now, as I don't have time to hack PG3 versions of both.

Thanks again for your assistance. It's a lot of moving parts, each of which has "should" work's. ;-)

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1 hour ago, FerventGeek said:

I'm assuming that the eisy can run both Polyglot's like the Polisy.

No, eisy only runs PG3x. Also, don’t update the Polisy as an update removes PG2 from it. PG2 has been discontinued and removed from current systems. If that’s a deal breaker then keep it running as you have it for now. 
 

 

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@FerventGeek Since you will be movig from PG2 to PGx, I would also suggest going to each NS in PG2 and takeing a screen shot of the Config page as you will need to repeat all of those in PGx

Because I was paranoid, I also did a back up of Net Resources,  a screenshot of Polisy setup, a download of Spokens (Alexa), a download of all my variables

 

Good luck!

 

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