After nearly a decade, I finally had a flash of insight about what is causing a program set of mine to fail. But now that I know, I have no idea what I can do about it. I have a set of backyard lights (one circuit) slaved programmatically to a motion detector. The lights stay 30% dim from sunset to about 11 PM. When motion is detected in the backyard during nighttime hours (even after 11), they come on slowly, stay lit until one minute beyond the last motion detected, then dim slowly to the rest state appropriate to the hour. Anytime after dark, manually controlling these lights stops their automatic behavior, by setting a state variable. If I set them on (for an evening cookout), they stay on. If I set them off (for a meteor shower pool party), they stay off, even if motion is detected. The lights can be returned to automatic program behavior by issuing a fast-off, which resets the state variable. Or that's the goal. The problem is that sometimes this behavior would work, and sometimes it wouldn't. Specifically, the automatic behavior would not shut off despite having manually controlled the lights. Sometimes it would work fine, but sometimes it simply wouldn't. I went nuts diddling my programs, assuming it was some sort of timing race with another program (possibly the motion-detected program), yet could never beat this behavior fully. But a couple nights ago, I finally figured it out. The code I use to reset the state variable looks like this: If 'Pool Lanterns Switch' is switched Fast off Or 'Nook - D Pool Lanterns' is switched Fast off Or 'Portable - Pool Post Lamps' is switched Fast off Then $Manual_Pool_Lamps_sw = 0 ... The code used to set it is similar, except that this triplet is repeated for every action OTHER than fast-off. It finally dawned on me that the failure case always occurred when I used the admin console or my iPhone app (I use MobiLinc Pro) to manually control those lights... whereas it always succeeded if I used any of the physical switches enumerated in the code to control the lights. Even if I told the admin console or MobiLinc Pro to send the command to the hardwired "pool lanterns switch" instead of just the related scene, it still didn't "count" for the purposes of the program as seeing "pool lanterns switch switched." The program environment doesn't seem to allow me to select for such control inputs coming from the admin console or the app. It doesn't seem to allow me any handle by which I could intercept controls going to the scene, or be triggered by those controls going to the scene. It doesn't seem to allow for a scene itself to set a state variable. How do I do what I want to do?

Hey there, just saw this thread, I am the curator of the Virtual plugin. The virtual devices do send control or switched signals as well as status & work in the AC or UD Mobile. Thus they will fire scenes or programs. Saying that some of the advice higher up does apply & is the way to do it without Virtual. Think of this plugin as a "macro", doesn't do much impossible without it, just shortcuts things. For this use case I might use a virtualSwitch and have the Fastoff program set it, while a program with the other switches turn it off. In the AC or UD you could change the virtuslSwitch directly. Now your other programs could use the "flag". You could mix and match with scenes and virtualSwitches as well, but as mentioned fastOFF is easy to pick-up in a program and more subtle in a scene. FastOFF immediately turns off the scene which just off uses the ramp ; I have used this feature to make a delayOFF happen, but in the end I created a virtualDevice to do this. hope this helps.

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1 hour ago1 hr

Try entering easy.local in Chrome browser and see if the new UI loads. If you get to the login screen, use your ID portal login credentials.

If that works, you can also access pg3x from the menu. If it doesn't, open a support ticket with UD to get things straightened out.

1 hour ago1 hr

Great idea. It doesn’t ask for a secondary set of credentials. It’s eisy.local though. Gotta love auto correct.

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Well, that pushed the project ahead. It let me install Virtual, and now Admin Console has new virtual thinginess in the menu. Now I gotta read up on what it expects me to provide for addresses, etc. so I can create one. Thanks a bunch, @DennisC !

1 hour ago1 hr

Great! I put an example of one in an earlier post. There is still something wrong with your credentials to sort with UD.

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