Release 3.2.4 (Beta) Is Now Available

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello Teken, thanks so very much for the verification.

 

I am going to contact SmartHome to see if they can provide any clues as to what we can do to at least bring you back to the original timeout. I am so very sorry for all the hassle.

 

I shall keep you posted.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Illusion]

Were there adjustments to the LED Backlight settings in this round of updates since the last official release? Half of my Switchlincs did not dim their LEDs last night after upgrading from 3.1.17.

[LeeG]

The move to I2CS support has resulted in the device Engine information being wrong for some devices. The SwitchLinc LED update should use I2 which looks like this …

 

Thu 04/12/2012 10:10:29 AM : [16 3F 93 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0264 [D2] cmd1=0x2E cmd2=0x00

 

Thu 04/12/2012 10:10:29 AM : [INST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 16 3F 93 1F 2E 00 00 03 D2 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FD

 

Thu 04/12/2012 10:10:29 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 16.3F.93 1F 2E 00 00 03 D2 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FD 06 (00)

 

Thu 04/12/2012 10:10:30 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 19.70.06 2B 2E 00 (00)

 

If the SwitchLinc update is using Peek/Poke commands instead of I2 there are two solutions. First try right click on SwitchLinc node, select Diagnostics | Query Insteon Engine. If that does not result in the I2 method being used for updating the LED information the SwitchLinc has to be Deleted and added back under 3.2.4.

[gviliunas]

Hi Lee,

 

I saw your last post regarding SWLs and I2 database engine and am confused.

 

If I Query Insteon Engine on all of my v.36 and v.39 KPLs, I see in the event log that I2 is not fully supported, reverting to I1.

Shouldn't these be I2 devices?

 

1. Does your statement about SWLs mean that I need to now delete and re-add all of my KPLs in 3.2.4 to regain I2 functionality?

2. Does running a "Query Insteon Engine" change the way devices are controlled by ISY? i.e. Am I "breaking" devices by performing Query Insteon Engine?

 

Greg

[LeeG]

gviliunas

 

The message after the Query Insteon Engine is associated with link database management. The SwitchLinc discussion involves using I1 or I2 to do device configuration.

 

The following trace is from my SwitchLinc. The I2 versus I1 message is displayed. However, the SwitchLinc LED brightness is being set with I2.

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:22 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 16 3F 93 0F 0D 00

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:22 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 16.3F.93 0F 0D 00 06 (00)

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:22 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 19.70.06 2B 0D 01 (01)

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:22 PM : [standard-Direct Ack][16.3F.93-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:22 PM : [16 3F 93 0 ] Calibrating engine version

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:22 PM : [16 3F 93 0 ] May not fully support i2, reverting to i1

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:39 PM : [All ] Writing 1 bytes to devices

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:39 PM : [16 3F 93 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0264 [D2] cmd1=0x2E cmd2=0x00

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:39 PM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 16 3F 93 1F 2E 00 00 03 D2 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FD

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:39 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 16.3F.93 1F 2E 00 00 03 D2 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FD 06 (00)

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:40 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 19.70.06 2B 2E 00 (00)

 

Thu 04/12/2012 12:38:40 PM : [standard-Direct Ack][16.3F.93-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

 

 

Are you having problems configuring the KeypadLincs?

 

Issuing a Query Insteon Engine may restore the use of I2 for device configuration. It does not break anything.

[Illusion]

Before I go changing anything, here is an event trace of a failure with a v.40 2476D:

 

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [        Time] 11:42:17 1(0)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [All         ] Writing 2 bytes to devices

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [18 E4 13 1  ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0264 [F2] cmd1=0x2E cmd2=0x00

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 18 E4 13 0F 28 02

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 18.E4.13 0F 28 02 06          SET-MSB(02)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 18.E4.13 13.24.AA 2B 28 02    SET-MSB(02)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][18.E4.13-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:17 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 18 E4 13 0F 2B 64

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 18.E4.13 0F 2B 64 06          PEEK   (64)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 18.E4.13 13.24.AA 2B 2B 19    PEEK   (19)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][18.E4.13-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 18 E4 13 0F 29 F2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 18.E4.13 0F 29 F2 06          POKE   (F2)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 18.E4.13 13.24.AA 2B 29 F2    POKE   (F2)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][18.E4.13-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:18 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 18 E4 13 0F 24 00

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:19 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 18.E4.13 0F 24 00 06                 (00)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:19 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 18.E4.13 13.24.AA 2B 24 00           (00)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:19 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][18.E4.13-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:42:19 AM : [18 E4 13 1  ] Memory : EPROM Refreshed

 

And here is success with a v.40 2477D:

 

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:03 AM : [        Time] 11:48:04 1(0)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [All         ] Writing 2 bytes to devices

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [1A D F6 1   ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0264 [19] cmd1=0x2E cmd2=0x00

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 1A 0D F6 0F 28 02

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 1A.0D.F6 0F 28 02 06          SET-MSB(02)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 1A.0D.F6 13.24.AA 2B 28 02    SET-MSB(02)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][1A.0D.F6-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 1A 0D F6 0F 2B 64

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 1A.0D.F6 0F 2B 64 06          PEEK   (64)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 1A.0D.F6 13.24.AA 2B 2B F2    PEEK   (F2)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][1A.0D.F6-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 1A 0D F6 0F 29 19

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:04 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 1A.0D.F6 0F 29 19 06          POKE   (19)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 1A.0D.F6 13.24.AA 2B 29 19    POKE   (19)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][1A.0D.F6-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 1A 0D F6 0F 24 00

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 1A.0D.F6 0F 24 00 06                 (00)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 1A.0D.F6 13.24.AA 2B 24 00           (00)

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][1A.0D.F6-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 04/12/2012 11:48:05 AM : [1A D F6 1   ] Memory : EPROM Refreshed

[Illusion]

Lee,

 

Thanks for taking the time to post. Query Insteon Engine fixed everything!!! Is that a new feature in the 3.XX series. I do not remember that function?

[LeeG]

Illusion

 

Had a different post but see the Query Insteon Engine fixed the problem. It is new to one of the 3.2.x betas. With the advent of a third variant, I2CS, the Engine information the ISY is carrying for some devices may not be correct. The Query Insteon Engine may refresh with the correct information.

[gviliunas]

Thanks for your response Lee,

 

I think that it may have been coincidental that I began to have trouble with a KPL just after loading 3.2.x

The KPLs load would intermittently blink on and off at about 1Hz. I just flipped off the breaker to ensure the wire nuts were tight. They were. When I turned power back on, I heard an arcing sound from the KPL and all of the LEDs were blinking on and off. Factory reset wouldn't work.

 

I think I just have a bad KPL and NOT an ISY problem. Time to call the Gold Line.

 

Greg

[Illusion]

An observation: 6 button KPL v.2D. I want to have the big off button have its LEDs off as referenced in this post:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2623

 

If I set this as a toggle in the ISY, it functions as expected with the LEDs illumated behind the big 'On' button when pressed, and behind the big 'Off' button when pressed.

 

Using the methodology mentioned in the referenced post, if I make the main button a non-toggle off, the big LED never illuminates. If I make it a non-toggle on, I cannot make the big 'On' buttons LED ever turn off.

 

I still have to invoke the manual tap method to get the button to function, but have the big 'Off' LEDs never on. A function I have never had much success with from the ISY, despite others seeming to have success with setting this behavior from within the ISY.

[LeeG]

Illusion

 

The 2D version of the KeypadLinc is apparently a problem child as Michel suggests replacing them but I do not know what the symptoms are associated with the 2D firmware.

 

Run an event viewer trace and see if I2 commands or I1 Peek/Poke commands are being used to configure the KeypadLinc toggle mode. I have a 6 button v.36 that shuts Off the OFF button LEDs when the ON button is set to non-toggle (Off) mode. It is necessary to cycle the ON/OFF buttons once after changing the toggle mode to see the effect. My v.36 is being set with I2 commands. If I1 Peek/Poke commands are being used try the Query Insteon Engine.

[andyf0]

Posted this in the MAC OS forum but thought it may be important enough to get more visibility.

 

Apple released a new Java update today for OS X. One of things it does is disable the auto execution of Java apps.

 

If you install this Admin Console will not start until you go into Java Preferences and turn Auto Start ON. Note. It will turn off again if you don't use Java after an extended time.

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/04/12/app ... k-malware/

[Illusion]

As a Mac user, thanks for that. Interesting.

[excessivechaos]

My V.95 thermostat adapter is now reporting status, however I am not sure why it started working.

 

I updated to 3.2.4, but the adapter was still not working so I decided to try resetting it again

I did a backup, deleted the adapter, factory reset, added it back, and did query insteon engine, but it still did not report status.

I then decided to do a restore from the backup I made previously so I would not need to fix all the programs that had the old thermostat references.

After restoring I right clicked on the thermostat and did restore device.

 

After the restore I noticed that the thermostat was now reporting the status to the ISY. I'm not sure exactly why it started working, perhaps it was the "restore device" that caused it to start working as I have never tried to do that before.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello excessivechaos,

 

Is this an integrated thermostat? If so, can you control the settings on the thermostat from ISY and do they take effect? We have had many reports of integrated thermostat not responding to commands from ISY.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[excessivechaos]

Hello excessivechaos,

 

Is this an integrated thermostat? If so, can you control the settings on the thermostat from ISY and do they take effect? We have had many reports of integrated thermostat not responding to commands from ISY.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

No, its a Venstar T1800 with the add on adaptor (2441v) V.95. The sticker on the back says rev 2.4.

[blueman2]

Hello excessivechaos,

 

Is this an integrated thermostat? If so, can you control the settings on the thermostat from ISY and do they take effect? We have had many reports of integrated thermostat not responding to commands from ISY.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

My integrated Venstar (2491T1E, firmware v2.4) is working flawlessly with 3.2.4.

[Brian H]

blueman2; V2.4 is more likely the hardware version. That would be the number on a white sticker.

What firmware version is reported by My Lighting?

[Illusion]

I do not know if this is related to the beta, but I thought I would mention it here just in case.

 

I have an IRLinc receiver. 2411R. I attempted to add a several buttons to the device and it was a disaster. The first button I added got the address of xx.xx.xx 1 the second xx.xx.xx 2 and so on. This was a disaster because those node values already existed in the ISY. So the ISY was not adding new nodes to the tree. It appeared that the new IR code got added to an already existing node. So now when I send the IR code stored in node xx.xx.xx 1 the node shows a control on. Also if I send the first new code I tried to learn tonight the node xx.xx.xx 1 shows a control on. I had about 18 nodes on this device before trying to add more tonight. I tried adding about 7 buttons to try and figure out what was going on and each new button added got added to the next higher already existing node.

 

At this point I can figure nothing to do but delete, factory reset the module, and begin again.

 

The first button I added tonight should have been xx.xx.xx 18 or FF or whatever the value would be, not xx.xx.xx 1 and I should have gotten a new node.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello Illusion,

 

This is odd. Are you saying that after the addition, you had two or more ISY nodes with the same address? If so, this is certainly a bug since ISY nodes must have unique addresses. If not, can you elaborate a little please?

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Illusion]

No. I still only have one node with an address. That node now responds to two distinct different IR commands.

 

I had 18 or so distinct individual IR codes programmed into the module. Each node responds to different unique IR codes.

 

I need some additional controls. So I find some valid unassigned NEC codes. I know they are valid because the green talkback LED responds to their sending to the module. I know they are not currently assigned to any node as I use the event viewer to verify no insteon communications with initiation of that unique IR code.

 

I add the new IR code using the procedure prescribed by ISY pop-up window. No new node is added to the tree. But now I have an existing node that responds to two different unique IR codes.

 

To me it appears that the ISY did not recognize that I already had 18 nodes with this module. Then when I started adding additional codes it started incrementing the node numbers by one assigning the new unique IR codes to existing nodes that now respond to two different IR commands.

 

 

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[Michel Kohanim]

Thanks Illusion,

 

We'll look into it. Just to clarify, you used Link Management | Add a button to IRLinc Receiver. Correct?

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Illusion]

Correct

 

 

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[Michel Kohanim]

Thank you!

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[blueman2]

Just to update on the Switchlinc Timer 2476ST, I can confirm that ALL of the checkbox items under "Set Options" work correctly. Specifically, the "Countdown Timer Enabled" box does in fact control whether the switch acts as a regular relay switch or a timer switch. This was the big thing I was looking for.

 

The "default timeout" value does not work, but I think it is becoming clear that this is not a value that can be changed anyway.