dim vs. fade down and how the ISY handles them?

[someguy]

Simple questions?:

 

1) Is a press and hold the bottom of on a switchlinc dimmer read as "Dim" or "Face Down"? What is the other one used for, BTW?

 

2) If I press and hold this button, using the program below, it seems to only send the command once no matter how long I hold the button. How could I get it to repeat it self while I'm holding the button?

 

If
       Control 'Hearth / Hearth-3-West Light, by TV' is switched Fade Down
    Or Control 'Hearth / Hearth-3-West Light, by TV' is switched Dim

Then
       Resource 'Receiver Volume Down'

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[LeeG]

Dim lowers the On Level about 3% (from memory) for each Dim command issued. Not many devices can issue a Dim/Bright command. RemoteLinc is one that can as it has specific Dim/Bright buttons.

 

When a button/paddle is pressed and held, a Start Manual Change (Up or Down) command is sent to the Responder(s) to begin a Ramp Up or Ramp Down. The ISY Program equivalent is Fade Up or Fade Down.

 

When the button/paddle is released a Stop Manual Change command is sent to the Responder(s) to stop the Ramp Up or Ramp Down. The ISY Program equivalent is Fade Stop.

 

The Insteon device hardware/firmware sends one Start Manual Change when the button/paddle is pressed and held and sends one Stop Manual Change when the button/paddle is released.

 

The Program would have to Repeat the Network Resource until the Fade Stop is received.

[apostolakisl]

Dim lowers the On Level about 3% (from memory) for each Dim command issued. Not many devices can issue a Dim/Bright command. RemoteLinc is one that can as it has specific Dim/Bright buttons.

 

When a button/paddle is pressed and held, a Start Manual Change (Up or Down) command is sent to the Responder(s) to begin a Ramp Up or Ramp Down. The ISY Program equivalent is Fade Up or Fade Down.

 

When the button/paddle is released a Stop Manual Change command is sent to the Responder(s) to stop the Ramp Up or Ramp Down. The ISY Program equivalent is Fade Stop.

 

The Insteon device hardware/firmware sends one Start Manual Change when the button/paddle is pressed and held and sends one Stop Manual Change when the button/paddle is released.

 

The Program would have to Repeat the Network Resource until the Fade Stop is received.

 

I might add, and Lee pointed this out to me, that ISY does not read the actual percent level after a fade up/down command. It estimates it based on the time between the fade start command and the fade end command. If after a fade up/down happens, you query the device, you will almost certainly see the number returned as being different than ISY guessed it to be (usually not by much though).

[skifiend]

When a button/paddle is pressed and held, a Start Manual Change (Up or Down) command is sent to the Responder(s) to begin a Ramp Up or Ramp Down. The ISY Program equivalent is Fade Up or Fade Down.

 

When the button/paddle is released a Stop Manual Change command is sent to the Responder(s) to stop the Ramp Up or Ramp Down. The ISY Program equivalent is Fade Stop.

 

The Insteon device hardware/firmware sends one Start Manual Change when the button/paddle is pressed and held and sends one Stop Manual Change when the button/paddle is released.

 

The Program would have to Repeat the Network Resource until the Fade Stop is received.

 

I am trying to program two buttons on a RemoteLinc2 8-button keypad to accomplish the following:

Hold C --> Vol Up

Hold D --> Vol Down

 

My network resources are set up and work. Using the above information I have set up a program for VolUp as:

If

Control 'RemoteLinc KP/RemoteLinc KP-C' is switched Fade UP

Then

Repeat 5 times

Resource 'DenonZ2VolUp'

 

Repeat seems to require one of:

For x times, OR

Every x hours y minutes z seconds

 

How can I set this up so that it repeats until Fade Stop is received?

[LeeG]

Use some number in the Repeat that will bring it out of the Repeat loop in case there is a comm problem and the Fade Stop is not received. When the Fade Stop occurs the If is reevaluated to False running the Else clause and ending the Repeat loop. Be careful not to hold the button too long as the device will enter linking mode in about 10 seconds.

If
       Control 'RermoteLinc2 - 4 Scene - C' is switched Fade Up
   And Control 'RermoteLinc2 - 4 Scene - C' is not switched Fade Stop

Then
       Repeat 50 times
          Send X10 'A1/All Lights Off (1)'

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[skifiend]

Use some number in the Repeat that will bring it out of the Repeat loop in case there is a comm problem and the Fade Stop is not received. When the Fade Stop occurs the If is reevaluated to False running the Else clause and ending the Repeat loop. Be careful not to hold the button too long as the device will enter linking mode in about 10 seconds.

If
       Control 'RermoteLinc2 - 4 Scene - C' is switched Fade Up
   And Control 'RermoteLinc2 - 4 Scene - C' is not switched Fade Stop

Then
       Repeat 50 times
          Send X10 'A1/All Lights Off (1)'

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

Works perfectly. Thanks!

 

I wonder if there is a way to disable entry into linking mode if button is held down > 10 seconds.

[LeeG]

Unfortunately not. Although it would take up more buttons using On to start the Repeat loop (rather than Fade Up) and Off to stop the loop (rather than Fade Stop) would allow as much time as needed to adjust volume.