How to turn off Completlye 6 Button KeypadLinc LED's

[pjjameso]

Is there a way to turn off the led's on a 6 button KeyPadLinc completely? Lights in the bedroom bother the wife so hope there is a solution .

0 setting keeps then on dim but still on.

[LeeG]

If the button LEDs have no illumination it would be impossible to tell if a button is On or Off.

 

The LED Backlight level set to 0/7 reduces the Off level to its lowest setting.

 

The OFF button will still be on On when the load is Off. To eliminate that set the load control button to non-toggle Off mode. The KPL ON/OFF buttons have to be cycled for that change to affect the OFF button LEDs. The ON button and Secondary buttons A,B,C,D will be On at a very low level when the respective button is On.

[pjjameso]

Thank you again Lee... Just a follow up question, in the bedroom I have the B scene button for the exterior entry lights. Of course at night i want these lights on. Is there a way to completely turn off the scene button when the exterior light is on? Button level is set to 0 on the controller but is still way to bright in a otherwise dark bedroom.

[LeeG]

A backlight level of 0/7 makes an On condition as low as an On LED gets. If you have some visual indication the outside lights are On so the button LED is not required or a short confirmation is okay a Program could be triggered with the button B On and turn the KPL button LED Off 10-20 seconds later. That would provide some initial visual indication at the KPL but only for a short time. Adding button B to an ISY Scene as a Responder with the Program triggered with the On button press turning the Scene Off in 10-20 seconds, the button LED will turn Off without affecting the lights the button turned On.

[pjjameso]

Sounds like what i would like to do... can you give me a quick example of what you are describing? Now I have program turn on the exterior scene at sunset. The keypad B is part of the exterior entry scene as both a controller and responder. What do i need to add to the exterior scene to get the B button led to turn off after 15 secs or better yet turn off at 9PM at night. Eg if time is between 9 PM and sunrise turn led light off.

[LeeG]

Program

 

If
       From     9:00:00PM
       To      Sunrise (next day)
   And Status  'KeypadLinc 8 Button-2 / KeypadLinc 8 Button-2 - B' is On

Then
       Wait  15 seconds
       Set Scene 'Scene KPLButton B' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

Scene ‘Scene KPLButton B’ contains Keypadlinc button B as a Responder

[jwilliams]

I had the same problem. My wife complained incessantly about the LEDs, even after turning them down to the lowest setting possible. I had to resort to a low tech solution. Using a piece of wood, a router, and some stain, I built and installed a little ledge above the keypad switch. It's actually decorative enough that it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. Then I took the top off the box of printer paper and hung it over the ledge at night so that it completely covered the Keypad. It's a pain to move the box top on and off the ledge when I need to use the Keypad. But it's either that, or a wife that will nag me to death.

[pjjameso]

Program

 

If
       From     9:00:00PM
       To      Sunrise (next day)
   And Status  'KeypadLinc 8 Button-2 / KeypadLinc 8 Button-2 - B' is On

Then
       Wait  15 seconds
       Set Scene 'Scene KPLButton B' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

Scene ‘Scene KPLButton B’ contains Keypadlinc button B as a Responder

 

Works perfect! Thanks so much, man there is a lot to learn with this system.

[Exten]

So you can remotely turn off the backlite for 1 individual button only if there is a scene with that button in it?

And then you set that scene to off?

 

There is no direct command to turn off 1 button's backlite?

I know that a manual buttonpress does in fact turn off the button's backlite, just wanted to make sure

that a scene has to be involved in order to remotely turn off 1 backlite.

[LeeG]

An Insteon Direct command cannot affect a Secondary KPL LED, either On or Off, because the Direct command has no placeholder to identify the specific Secondary button. As a Responder to a Scene the specific Secondary KPL button is identified so the KPL button LED can be turned On or Off with a Scene.

[Exten]

Ok...kool...this has particular relevance to for me because I am building a little funtoy thing.

I am replacing all 8 buttons on an 8 button KPL with all clear buttons and some colored buttons kit.

 

This KPL will do nothing but lite it's backlites in a random pattern sort of simulating

the slowly changing/blinking lites on the star trek bridge computer.....sort of like.

 

It's going to sit in the wall of my bedroom and look very important

Actually, I may assign a few buttons to do things but mostly it's for Das Blinken Lite Show.