IndyMike

Mike, I found your station and downloaded the observations for the month of March. I do agree that there should be some method of retaining the rainfall information. Note that your NWS site appears to report at 30 minute intervals. Based on your error log, you are requesting data from weatherbug at a much faster rate (not sure what that is). I believe I remember one of the UDI team posting that over-polling weatherbug sites could be interpreted as a Denial Of Service attack and could result in errors. Regardless, you should be able to back your polling way down - it's not buying you anything. I am currently monitoring the NWS station at 10 minute intervals as a test. I'll let you know if I encounter errors. The 1st chart below shows the ISY calculated ETo and Irrigation required (both as calculated and with retention of rainfall). You've had two rather significant rainfalls (on 3/6 and 3/20) and are in the process of getting more rain today. Sorry for the crappy weather. The second chart predicts Irrigation based on: 1) 100% Soil absorption 2) 0.5" water applied per cycle 3) Both current calculated Irrigation Requirement and Irrigation requirement with Rainfall retention (negative values). As shown, the current ISY calculation (not retaining negative Irrigation) would have resulted in 5 cycles of your irrigation system. If the ISY had retained the negative values, the system would have cycled 3 times (one inch less water applied). With all of the above said, I still do not understand your numbers: 1) You stated that you've applied a 10.5" water offset to keep your system from cycling. I don't understand this - your total calculated Irrigation requirement for March should not have exceeded 1.2". Is it possible that you are using metric values (mm)? 2) I'm having problems understanding why your system would cycle every day or so. Please post back your settings: 1) Irrigation Region 2) Soil absorption (100%, 90%, etc) 3) Water applied/cycle 4) Allowable depletion 5) What you are actually watering (Grass, flower beds, etc). IM

ARRRGH - 3 hours into a post and I just watched it vanish. Lesson (re-)learned: write post local and copy/paste to the forum! Here's the short version: I assisted Michel in checking out the ETo calculation. I believe it's accurate within +/- 7% over a month. It will vary more per day but we're talking about errors on the order of 0.05 inches. The calculation relies on elevation high/low temperature, and averages of current temp, wind speed, and dewpoint. This is a classic example of Garbage in = Garbage out. 1) If you have a unreliable WB connection, your averages will be incorrect. If the "gaps" in data are large enough, the errors can be significant. 2) If you have a very unreliable WB connection, your Min/Max temperatures and rainfall may be incorrect. This will lead to large errors. 3) You need to pick a RELIABLE WB station. Temperatures are typically very reliable. Windspeed and dewpoint are placement/maintenance sensitive. Reliability is more important than proximity. You can compensate for offsets (constant differences) between your local location and the WB station. Nothing can compensate for poor station placement or maintenance issues. 4) NWS stations (airports) are typically well maintained. Unfortunately, they do not normally report rain data and report wind speed at a higher elevation. While not good candidates for WB data, they are a good source for assessing whether your local WB site is giving accurate wind/dewpoint data. 5) WB has a nasty habit of "automatically switching stations" if your selected station is having reporting problems. This isn't a big deal in Indiana where the elevation changes 200' over the course of miles. Out West, where little things like Mountains come into the equation, a station change could move you from a valley to Pikes Peak. I don't have a good solution for this problem - other than selecting a RELIABLE station. I did not address the issue of Irrigation Required or retention of negative values. In hindsight, I can see where this would be required for rain events that far exceed the typical ETo. Unfortunately, I don't believe that it's as simple as retaining a negative irrigation required variable: 1) The soil absorption factor is a linear approximation that is applied over a "normal" range of rainfall. 2) Soils are not linear - after hitting saturation, 100% of the rainfall will result in run-off. Short of running a percolation test (required in my area with septic systems), I do not know how to quantify soil absorption/saturation. Asking users to run a percolation test would seem to be a bit extreme. If anyone has access to data that could be used to characterize regional soil characteristics, please chime in. IM

If I understand your response correctly - 1) You factory reset/restored to PLM (per Lee's request). 2) You plugged a dual band lamplinc in the same circuit as the PLM and received no response to a query. If the above is correct, you are either dealing with a failing PLM, or have severe corruption of the powerline communication. I had asked about moving the PLM to the opposite phase because it's possible that only one of the phases is corrupted. You'll need to figure out which breaker your current PLM location is being supplied from. Once you know this, select a location/breaker that is on the alternate phase per the picture below. Alternating breakers from top to bottom are on the opposite phase. Breakers across the horizontal are on the same phase. Another approach would be to use a Filterlinc on the PLM itself. This will eliminate any powerline corruption and force the PLM to utilize RF exclusively.

... and the six that are responding are different than in your original post. I'd regard that as "non-repeatable" (intermittent communications). Thank you. Would it be possible to move the 2413S to the opposite phase? This would rule out a noise source/absorber near the PLM. The above log is showing a device timeout for a "Insteon Engine query". The ISY attempted to communicate to the device 3 times and did not receive a response. Questions: 1) The device address shown in the event viewer was not in your original list. What type of device is this? 2) Have you tried moving one of your dual band Lamplincs to the same circuit as the PLM (or is that what you are showing above)?

Hello Envirogreen, In addition to the event viewer diagnostics that LeeG has requested... Observations from the screen shot you provided: 1) Your screen shot showed a total of 24 devices. 2) 22 of the devices are dual band - we can hopefully assume that your phases are coupled properly. 3) 8 devices are showing a status (they responded at one point). The remainder are showing that they failed to communicate. Question 1) Are the 8 devices reliable? Do they consistently respond to queries? 4) Of the 24 devices shown: 4 are newer I2CS units, 4 are I2 units, the remaining 16 are unknown (added manually and show version V.00) 5) Of the 8 devices responding: 3 are the newer I2CS units, 5 are unknown. All are dual band. 6) There doesn't appear to be a pattern to the location of the responding devices. Some are on your 1st floor, some on the second. Question 2) Are you using a 2412S (powerline only) or 2413S (dual band) PLM? Question 3) Where is the PLM physically located (1st floor, basement,etc and near service panel, office (away from panel), etc). Suggestions (in addition to Lee's request) - 1) You have a number of dual band Lamp modules. Try moving one to the same outlet/circuit as the PLM. Please post an event trace of a device query. 2) Have you tried a "query Insteon Engine"? Right click on the device, then select diagnostics/query Insteon Engine.

Hello someguy, Sorry to hear that you haven't resolved the issue. I am a bit curious how you are determining that the PLM is losing it's records: Edit: Stupid question follows. Resolved by reading page 1 of this thread. Please disregard. 1) Observation: device responses not registered by the PLM. 2) Link record read: Very difficult to accomplish unless you filter the PLM and disable RF devices. If the link table shows blank (similar to a factory reset), that's conclusive. Otherwise it's very hard to determine whether a particular link record is gone. Not doubting your conclusions - just trying to figure out how the problem is exhibiting itself. That was really a fishing expedition on my part. It should not matter, but I'm not sure that the designers took this into account. Both the PLM and the ISY are isolated from the powerline, but they are not isolated from each other. The question becomes, how good is the power isolation. I don't have an answer for that with the 2413S. It may be a total WAG on my part, but something to think about it you experience problems again. Along a similar line, the "older" modules (SWL, KPL, Etc) could be upset by a line voltage spike making it through the power supply to the uP. Units would require the "air gap" procedure to recover. While I've experienced this with older units, I have not had any problems with units using the "improved" power supply implemented around 2009. The 2413S came out in the same time frame. From what I can see, it uses the same switching power supply configuration. With the above said, if you encounter problems again, please try: 1) Verify the PLM/ISY supplies are on the same phase. 2) Consider moving both to the opposite phase (to preclude line spikes from being an issue). Your passive coupler should not pass (or severely attenuate) a spike between the phases. IM

Hello Someguy, I realize that this is a rather old thread, but I was researching PLM malfunctions and was wondering where you wound up with this. Were you able to recover the PLM, or did you replace it? As a side note, you mentioned that your PLM is installed in a dedicated outlet with a phase coupler. Where is the power supply for the ISY connected? Is it possibly on the opposite phase? IM

Johnnyt, The following is from the GE Zwave manual for a 45609 dimmer: I do not have much recent experience with Zwave. I will say that I am able to communicate with an Intermatic receptacle 68' away through a steel door/12" concrete wall. This is "line of sight" with one rather ominous obstruction, but still rather impressive.

Yeah - I can program my 2876SB Icon Switches (V.39) using I2! These had been a problem previously due to the limited memory. I'm not sure which revision included this change - thank you nonetheless.

Alan, This is likely not achievable. Most of the motorized locks that I have seen are sized so that they stall the motor if they encounter an obstruction. In order "pull the door tight" a gear reduction drive would be required to multiply the motor torque. This toque would still require limiting (motor stall or a clutch) to prevent damage for a true interference condition (door partially shut). This same gearset would also drain the battery due to the increased operating time required to throw the bolt. The installation manuals for all of these locks refer to "alignment" and "smooth operation" during installation. The Kwickset deadbolt does advertise a "tapered" bolt to improve engagement. I do not know how effective this is in practice. If you have a Metal door: You could replace your compression seals with magnetic seals (lock side and top). This will pull your door shut for you allow allow for minimal interference on the deadbolt. If you have a Wood door: 1) Adjust your handset to "hold the door tight" and allow the deadbolt to align properly. Your family members may not like having to "push" the door closed. 2) Consider using a Zwave locking handset + the Schlage Zwave non-motorized deadbolt (expensive). This would allow you to remote lock the handset and still use the Schlage deadbolt to pull the door tight against the seals. Question: Do you really need to force the deadbolt to seal the door? Are you sure that your seals aren't worn out?

Hello again johnnyt, More info on ventilation systems: Nice article on using ERV's and HRV's: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/are-hrvs-cost-effective At the bottom of the article there are #'s for the relative savings for different locations in the US (johnnyt, you would likely use the Burlington Vermont #'s):http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/sites/default/files/Semmelhack%20HRV%20cost%20effectiveness%20table%201.jpg From the chart above, I'm roughly in-line with the numbers posted for Chicago. I just re-tested my furnace blower. After subtracting out the "unneeded" loads (zone panel, vent dampers) it pulls 1100W in heat mode and 575W in low speed continuous mode. I think I'm stuck with my "open window" system until it dies. On the brighter side, I'll be in retirement sooner than I care to admit. I'll get another chance at this when we down-size. Article on the "Lunos" through the wall heat recovery ventilators: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/european-products-building-tight-homes The Lunos fans go for $1200 for a pair and are rated at 17.6 CFM/Pair. My home would require 5 pair to meet ASHRAE standards. There is no current cost/benefit calculation ratio that would support using these in the States. The sad fact is these may make sense in Europe. On average, Europeans pay nearly 2x my local price for natural gas, and 3.5X the price for electricity. Add in the fact that the fans are "easy" retrofits for older homes and these could work for them. IM

EHV: is either an Exothermic Heat Ventilator (haven't invented it yet) or a typo. I corrected my post to indicate a HRV.

Hello johnnyt, Thank you for the clarification on your local code. I cringe whenever I hear the term "lobbyists". While it is possible that there were issues with the 90's vintage HRV's (your defrost heater as an example), I have a hard time believing they had your best interests in mind when they campaigned to change the code. A HRV would seem to be ideally suited to your area. I do have co-workers that have HRV's with defrost heaters. They appear to function well in the milder climate of N. Indiana/S. Michigan. I can see where it could present an issue with your much colder climate. Since you had a HRV installed during construction, I'm guessing that you have dedicated return/supply ducts throughout your home. In other words, your HRV system is separate from your Heating/Cooling air system. I'm jealous. I'm running bath fans with makeup air vents in the basement (walkout). The air vents are similar to your back draft vents but reversed so they supply outside air to prevent negative pressure in the home. I live in an area where Radon gas is a problem (I've tested the house multiple times over the years) and need to prevent a negative pressure condition. As you stated, my system is analogous to turning on the fans and opening a window. I would love to install a dedicated system, but simply don't have access to the walls/ceilings to be able to install one. That leaves the option of tying the HRV into my heating system. Unfortunately, my furnace is an older model with a fixed speed blower. It consumes ~1500W of power when running. That puts a big dent in the payback from the HRV. I've looked at this a number of times over the years and have always walked away in disgust. I really need my furnace to die (can't believe I wrote that) so I can replace it with a variable speed model. At least I've been able to automate the bath fans using ISY so that the air exchanges occur at a regular rate or my choosing. Thanks for sharing the information on your system. Glad to hear that it's working well for you. IM

Hello johnnyt, I was confused by your statement that HRV systems were "early 90's" while the large bath fans + makeup air were "mid 90's". I had thought that the HRV systems were the "latest and greatest" for providing ventilation (with the side benefit of winter humidity control) without increasing heating costs. I currently use my bath fans + makeup air valves to "attempt" to control humidity in the winter (second floor runs 50% unless controlled). I was considering a HRV in an attempt to lower the heat load in winter. I'm having a very difficult time calculating the cost/benefit trade for the HRV (can't calculate the heating cost of running with makeup air). Is there something better? I've seen some reports of European fans that passively heat the incoming air, but they are expensive and have no numbers for humidity control. IM

Plau, Your Honeywell Prestige thermostat appears to have all the necessary controls for both dehumidification and humidification (internal humidity/external temp and humidity/ frost control). It seems like it could replace your VH7200 if you have the necessary wires run. What type of dehumidification equipment are you using? Note that if you are using the setback feature on your thermostat you will have problems @-22 outside. As your indoor air temp is decreasing the RH will be increasing. If you are using the setback at night, the indoor temp/RH is increasing at the same time that your window temps are decreasing. It's very difficult for any system to keep up with these changes. You need to compensate by keeping the RH low during your warm periods so it doesn't hit dew point (at your windows) during setback. For your area, I'm not sure that is a economical tradeoff. Gar furnaces are far more efficient than mechanical dehumidifiers. It might pay to leave the temperature higher and run the dehumidifier less.

Hello Plau, I would be extremely cautious in trying to automate this setup. Your VH7200 is a rather capable device with built in protection to prevent damage to your equipment. This isn't easily replaced with standard automation devices. Without understanding your exact equipment type (heat pump, forced air/mechanical cooling, hydronic, etc,) it's impossible to recommend any replacement. Even if this were known, I would be hesitant to interface automation modules directly to your equipment. Without a lot of thought. they simply won't offer the protection that the VH7200 does. A natural thought would be to replace your existing thermostat with one that included humidity control. There are communicating thermostats available that might be able to safely control your equipment. The fact that you have the VH7200 as a separate device indicates that the functionality is not built into your thermostat and you may not have the wires run to support a humidity control thermostat. I have a lot of automation in my home. The furnace/AC/humidity is something that I leave to dedicated controllers that have the capability of properly controlling/protecting my expensive equipment.

After performing more tests it's painfully evident that I don't have a clue what is going on... The following is a comparison of a 2476D (powerline) vs 2477D (dual band) with timing as identical as I can get it. The 2476D is a V.40 (I2) dimmer. The 2477D is a V.38 (I2) dual-band dimmer. All programs are disabled - except my variable counting program. Passive coupler removed. Accesspoints on each leg of the panel (not my normal configuration). Thinking that this might be a dual-band "echo" that is somehow not being transmitted to the ISY, I replaced the 2477D with a 2477S. To my surprise this worked flawlessly. 2477S V.42 (I2CS) Switch wired in the 2477D dimmer location. Programs enabled/disabled has no effect - program counts consistently. Passive coupler installed/removed has no effect. Accesspoints installed/removed has not effect. Hopefully someone smarter than I can make sense of this...

I agree - I tried this on my one (only) 2477D V.40 and received the same results and virtually identical event log. I have tried disabling programs, removing my passive coupler, and adding accesspoints to no avail. The ISY seems to regard every other paddle press as a "duplicate" event. By slowing the paddle presses to 1 every 3 seconds, the ISY recognizes the presses as "unique" events. This does appear to be something related to the 2477D or the way that the ISY interprets its communications. I have been running similar counting programs on non-dual band relays and dimmers since variables were introduced (fan timer programs). I have never seen a hiccup on these.

Hello again mfranzel, I am not trying to upset you. In my original post, I was inquiring about your configuration (kpl controlling an outlet). I should have posted this as a direct question. You had indicated that your Keypadlinc was a non-dual band unit. The only non-dual band Keypadlinc relays that I know of are the 2486S units which are rated at 13 Amps. Do you have a 2486S relay Keypadlinc controlling a standard outlet? You can check this using the ISY - click on My-Lighting and then find the device type in the right hand pane (under "Type"). If that is the configuration (please respond), I believe it does not comply with NEC code (as Brian also indicated). I was actually more concerned about you trying to place a filter between the KPL and the outlet. The filters are rated at 5 Amps while the KPL is rated at 13 Amps. Adding a filter to this configuration would have been against code AND unsafe.

Sorry, 1 outlet or many makes no difference. It's against code. Whether or not this is a safety issue is debatable. Enough discussion - I'll climb off my high horse. From your description, your CFL's are using the GU24 base. I have not seen LEDs with this base locally. Rather than spending money on new bulbs, you could try plugging your lamps into a filterlinc (assuming you have one). If this solves the problem, you may want to try different bulbs. If it does not, you may have another "unknown" load on the circuit.

Hello mfranzel, If I understand the above correctly, you are using the KPL relay (2486S?) to control a standard duplex outlet. You may very well already know this but, the KPL is not rated to control a duplex outlet. It is rated for "Wired-in incandescent lighting and inductive loads". You could overload the KPL by plugging in an "inappropriate" device at the duplex outlet. If this is the configuration that you are using, please do not try to put a leviton filter between the KPL and the outlet. The leviton filters are only rated at 5 amps.

Hello Bill, I had similar problems with X10 devices not responding. To get around this, I build a "query" scene and included only the devices that I wanted updated. Downside is that it is a maintenance issue (I forget to add new devices) and it consumes additional links in the PLM and devices. Schedule 1 If From 3:00:00AM For 10 minutes Then Set Scene '1 House Query' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

The "query at restart" option behavior is not at all obvious and has what I believe are "dire" consequences. Reported here http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?p=78145#p78145 bsobel added his insight at V 3.3.9 here Release 3.3.9 (RC6) Is Now Available Post 1 and here Release 3.3.9 (RC6) Is Now Available Post 2. Thank you Bill!. While the operation described may be "As Intended", I would submit that it could have serious consequences for the way that I and other users implement programs. Detailed post here: Release 3.3.10 (RC7) - 3.3.8 (RC5) Startup and Query Bugs

I've seen a few other situations that can cause these erroneous results: 1) Programs can interfere with the scene test as they are activated through "status" triggers. Timed events or periodic queries can also wreak havoc. Programs Enabled Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:18 : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 3D 13 00 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.D2.68 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.D2.68-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.4F.6B 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 1A.4F.6B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 03.D3.46 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 03.D3.46-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.8C.CD 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 09.8C.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.E5.EC 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0A.E5.EC-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- [succeeded] David Switch (1A 4F 6B 1) [Failed] MBath KPL B - Vanity (F BF A4 2) [Failed] MBath KPL A - Vanity (F BF A4 1) [succeeded] Mud KPL 4 - 2nd Floor (9 8C CD 4) [Failed] Matt Inline (E E4 62 1) [succeeded] Master KPL H - David Bed (A E5 EC [succeeded] Master KPL F - Kath Bed (A E5 EC 6) [succeeded] Master KPL C - 2nd Floor (A E5 EC 3) [Failed] MBath KPL E - Closet (F BF A4 5) [succeeded] Master KPL D - Matt Bed (A E5 EC 4) [Failed] MBath KPL D - Toilet (F BF A4 4) [succeeded] Master KPL A - Overhead (A E5 EC 1) [succeeded] Master KPL B - Overhead (A E5 EC 2) [Failed] Master Bath Tub (16 92 BD 1) [succeeded] Kath Icon (3 D3 46 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL A (F D2 68 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL B - Light (19 46 CE 2) [Failed] Master Bath Toilet (14 78 B2 1) [Failed] Master Bath Shower (1B F4 54 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL C - 2nd Floo (19 46 CE 3) [Failed] Master Table KPL A - Light (19 46 CE 1) [Failed] BSMT KPL Game - 2nd Floor (F FF F1 4) [Failed] Master Table KPL D - Fan (19 46 CE 4) [Failed] Master Bath Closet (14 6C F0 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL B (F D2 68 2) ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:26 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.3D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) Programs Disabled Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:51 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.D5.C5 11.00.02 C7 06 00 (00) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:51 : [std-Group ] 21.D5.C5-->11.00.02, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:51 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.D5.C5 11.00.02 C7 06 00 (00) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:52 : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 3D 13 00 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.D2.68 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.D2.68-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.4F.6B 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 1A.4F.6B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 03.D3.46 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 03.D3.46-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.8C.CD 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 09.8C.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.E5.EC 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0A.E5.EC-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.E4.62 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0E.E4.62-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.E4.62 0C.A8.B4 67 09 FD LNK-ON (FD) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0E.E4.62-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.FF.F1 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.FF.F1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 19.46.CE 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 19.46.CE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 14.6C.F0 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 14.6C.F0-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.F4.54 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 1B.F4.54-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 14.78.B2 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 14.78.B2-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.92.BD 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 16.92.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.BF.A4 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.BF.A4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- [succeeded] David Switch (1A 4F 6B 1) [succeeded] MBath KPL B - Vanity (F BF A4 2) [succeeded] MBath KPL A - Vanity (F BF A4 1) [succeeded] Mud KPL 4 - 2nd Floor (9 8C CD 4) [succeeded] Matt Inline (E E4 62 1) [succeeded] Master KPL H - David Bed (A E5 EC [succeeded] Master KPL F - Kath Bed (A E5 EC 6) [succeeded] Master KPL C - 2nd Floor (A E5 EC 3) [succeeded] MBath KPL E - Closet (F BF A4 5) [succeeded] Master KPL D - Matt Bed (A E5 EC 4) [succeeded] MBath KPL D - Toilet (F BF A4 4) [succeeded] Master KPL A - Overhead (A E5 EC 1) [succeeded] Master KPL B - Overhead (A E5 EC 2) [succeeded] Master Bath Tub (16 92 BD 1) [succeeded] Kath Icon (3 D3 46 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL A (F D2 68 1) [succeeded] Master Table KPL B - Light (19 46 CE 2) [succeeded] Master Bath Toilet (14 78 B2 1) [succeeded] Master Bath Shower (1B F4 54 1) [succeeded] Master Table KPL C - 2nd Floo (19 46 CE 3) [succeeded] Master Table KPL A - Light (19 46 CE 1) [succeeded] BSMT KPL Game - 2nd Floor (F FF F1 4) [succeeded] Master Table KPL D - Fan (19 46 CE 4) [succeeded] Master Bath Closet (14 6C F0 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL B (F D2 68 2) ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- Wed 01/09/2013 17:28:00 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.3D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) 2) Pending writes against a device will interrupt a scene test. To test the following I unplugged a lamplinc and then instructed the ISY to include it in a scene. That obviously failed since the device was unplugged (! mark next to the device). There are, however, writes pending against the device (ISY wants to complete the scene addition). Apparently, when the scene test is activated the write update to the devices also activates. This interrupts the scene test response as shown below. The device with pending writes can be anywhere in the system. It does not need to be a member of the scene being tested. Pending writes against a device Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:45 : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 3D 13 00 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:46 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.D2.68 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:46 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.D2.68-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:46 : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 15 ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- [Failed] David Switch (1A 4F 6B 1) [Failed] MBath KPL B - Vanity (F BF A4 2) [Failed] MBath KPL A - Vanity (F BF A4 1) [Failed] Mud KPL 4 - 2nd Floor (9 8C CD 4) [Failed] Matt Inline (E E4 62 1) [Failed] Master KPL H - David Bed (A E5 EC [Failed] Master KPL F - Kath Bed (A E5 EC 6) [Failed] Master KPL C - 2nd Floor (A E5 EC 3) [Failed] MBath KPL E - Closet (F BF A4 5) [Failed] Master KPL D - Matt Bed (A E5 EC 4) [Failed] MBath KPL D - Toilet (F BF A4 4) [Failed] Master KPL A - Overhead (A E5 EC 1) [Failed] Master KPL B - Overhead (A E5 EC 2) [Failed] Master Bath Tub (16 92 BD 1) [Failed] Kath Icon (3 D3 46 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL A (F D2 68 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL B - Light (19 46 CE 2) [Failed] Master Bath Toilet (14 78 B2 1) [Failed] Master Bath Shower (1B F4 54 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL C - 2nd Floo (19 46 CE 3) [Failed] Master Table KPL A - Light (19 46 CE 1) [Failed] BSMT KPL Game - 2nd Floor (F FF F1 4) [Failed] Master Table KPL D - Fan (19 46 CE 4) [Failed] Master Bath Closet (14 6C F0 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL B (F D2 68 2) ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:53 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 3D CF 13 00 Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:53 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.3D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) 3) Disabled devices. If a device has been disabled in the ADMIN tree it will show up as "failed" in the scene test. Probably not what you are experiencing, but something to keep in mind. Tip on disabling programs. Tired of using the program summary tab to enable/disable programs? Use a variable in the main "My Programs" folder. Folder Conditions for 'My Programs' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If $Programs_Enable is 1 Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. IM

Hello George, I'm thinking you are trying to find the ID of a backyard station near you. Not at all intuitive - as you'll see. 1) Navigate to the weatherbug site and enter your ZIP code (if it hasn't picked up the location from your browser). 2) Weatherbug will select a Station near you. It will NOT select a backyard station (which may be closer). 3) Select "Change Weather Station". 4) Weatherbug will bring up a map of local stations. You may need to pan back to find your actual location. Backyard stations are shown in yellow as depicted in the graphic below. I am in the little burg of Granger, which happens to be close to the KD8FW station. 5) Select the backyard station, click "set station", and you'll be returned the the main station page as shown below. The station ID will be similar to the highlighted ID I'm showing in the address bar (p04609 in this case). Enter this into the ISY "location ID" and click save. It should bring up the readings for that station. Be careful in selecting your station. Not all stations provide rainfall, wind speed, etc. Worse yet, not all stations are "maintained". My selection of KD8FW was based on good consistent readings, the fact that he's a HAM (speaks well in my mind). The fact that I've know him since grade school doesn't even enter into the equation. Hope this helps, IM