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Hello someguy, Sorry to hear that you haven't resolved the issue. I am a bit curious how you are determining that the PLM is losing it's records: Edit: Stupid question follows. Resolved by reading page 1 of this thread. Please disregard. 1) Observation: device responses not registered by the PLM. 2) Link record read: Very difficult to accomplish unless you filter the PLM and disable RF devices. If the link table shows blank (similar to a factory reset), that's conclusive. Otherwise it's very hard to determine whether a particular link record is gone. Not doubting your conclusions - just trying to figure out how the problem is exhibiting itself. That was really a fishing expedition on my part. It should not matter, but I'm not sure that the designers took this into account. Both the PLM and the ISY are isolated from the powerline, but they are not isolated from each other. The question becomes, how good is the power isolation. I don't have an answer for that with the 2413S. It may be a total WAG on my part, but something to think about it you experience problems again. Along a similar line, the "older" modules (SWL, KPL, Etc) could be upset by a line voltage spike making it through the power supply to the uP. Units would require the "air gap" procedure to recover. While I've experienced this with older units, I have not had any problems with units using the "improved" power supply implemented around 2009. The 2413S came out in the same time frame. From what I can see, it uses the same switching power supply configuration. With the above said, if you encounter problems again, please try: 1) Verify the PLM/ISY supplies are on the same phase. 2) Consider moving both to the opposite phase (to preclude line spikes from being an issue). Your passive coupler should not pass (or severely attenuate) a spike between the phases. IM

Hello Someguy, I realize that this is a rather old thread, but I was researching PLM malfunctions and was wondering where you wound up with this. Were you able to recover the PLM, or did you replace it? As a side note, you mentioned that your PLM is installed in a dedicated outlet with a phase coupler. Where is the power supply for the ISY connected? Is it possibly on the opposite phase? IM

Johnnyt, The following is from the GE Zwave manual for a 45609 dimmer: I do not have much recent experience with Zwave. I will say that I am able to communicate with an Intermatic receptacle 68' away through a steel door/12" concrete wall. This is "line of sight" with one rather ominous obstruction, but still rather impressive.

Yeah - I can program my 2876SB Icon Switches (V.39) using I2! These had been a problem previously due to the limited memory. I'm not sure which revision included this change - thank you nonetheless.

Alan, This is likely not achievable. Most of the motorized locks that I have seen are sized so that they stall the motor if they encounter an obstruction. In order "pull the door tight" a gear reduction drive would be required to multiply the motor torque. This toque would still require limiting (motor stall or a clutch) to prevent damage for a true interference condition (door partially shut). This same gearset would also drain the battery due to the increased operating time required to throw the bolt. The installation manuals for all of these locks refer to "alignment" and "smooth operation" during installation. The Kwickset deadbolt does advertise a "tapered" bolt to improve engagement. I do not know how effective this is in practice. If you have a Metal door: You could replace your compression seals with magnetic seals (lock side and top). This will pull your door shut for you allow allow for minimal interference on the deadbolt. If you have a Wood door: 1) Adjust your handset to "hold the door tight" and allow the deadbolt to align properly. Your family members may not like having to "push" the door closed. 2) Consider using a Zwave locking handset + the Schlage Zwave non-motorized deadbolt (expensive). This would allow you to remote lock the handset and still use the Schlage deadbolt to pull the door tight against the seals. Question: Do you really need to force the deadbolt to seal the door? Are you sure that your seals aren't worn out?

Hello again johnnyt, More info on ventilation systems: Nice article on using ERV's and HRV's: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/are-hrvs-cost-effective At the bottom of the article there are #'s for the relative savings for different locations in the US (johnnyt, you would likely use the Burlington Vermont #'s):http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/sites/default/files/Semmelhack%20HRV%20cost%20effectiveness%20table%201.jpg From the chart above, I'm roughly in-line with the numbers posted for Chicago. I just re-tested my furnace blower. After subtracting out the "unneeded" loads (zone panel, vent dampers) it pulls 1100W in heat mode and 575W in low speed continuous mode. I think I'm stuck with my "open window" system until it dies. On the brighter side, I'll be in retirement sooner than I care to admit. I'll get another chance at this when we down-size. Article on the "Lunos" through the wall heat recovery ventilators: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/european-products-building-tight-homes The Lunos fans go for $1200 for a pair and are rated at 17.6 CFM/Pair. My home would require 5 pair to meet ASHRAE standards. There is no current cost/benefit calculation ratio that would support using these in the States. The sad fact is these may make sense in Europe. On average, Europeans pay nearly 2x my local price for natural gas, and 3.5X the price for electricity. Add in the fact that the fans are "easy" retrofits for older homes and these could work for them. IM

EHV: is either an Exothermic Heat Ventilator (haven't invented it yet) or a typo. I corrected my post to indicate a HRV.

Hello johnnyt, Thank you for the clarification on your local code. I cringe whenever I hear the term "lobbyists". While it is possible that there were issues with the 90's vintage HRV's (your defrost heater as an example), I have a hard time believing they had your best interests in mind when they campaigned to change the code. A HRV would seem to be ideally suited to your area. I do have co-workers that have HRV's with defrost heaters. They appear to function well in the milder climate of N. Indiana/S. Michigan. I can see where it could present an issue with your much colder climate. Since you had a HRV installed during construction, I'm guessing that you have dedicated return/supply ducts throughout your home. In other words, your HRV system is separate from your Heating/Cooling air system. I'm jealous. I'm running bath fans with makeup air vents in the basement (walkout). The air vents are similar to your back draft vents but reversed so they supply outside air to prevent negative pressure in the home. I live in an area where Radon gas is a problem (I've tested the house multiple times over the years) and need to prevent a negative pressure condition. As you stated, my system is analogous to turning on the fans and opening a window. I would love to install a dedicated system, but simply don't have access to the walls/ceilings to be able to install one. That leaves the option of tying the HRV into my heating system. Unfortunately, my furnace is an older model with a fixed speed blower. It consumes ~1500W of power when running. That puts a big dent in the payback from the HRV. I've looked at this a number of times over the years and have always walked away in disgust. I really need my furnace to die (can't believe I wrote that) so I can replace it with a variable speed model. At least I've been able to automate the bath fans using ISY so that the air exchanges occur at a regular rate or my choosing. Thanks for sharing the information on your system. Glad to hear that it's working well for you. IM

Hello johnnyt, I was confused by your statement that HRV systems were "early 90's" while the large bath fans + makeup air were "mid 90's". I had thought that the HRV systems were the "latest and greatest" for providing ventilation (with the side benefit of winter humidity control) without increasing heating costs. I currently use my bath fans + makeup air valves to "attempt" to control humidity in the winter (second floor runs 50% unless controlled). I was considering a HRV in an attempt to lower the heat load in winter. I'm having a very difficult time calculating the cost/benefit trade for the HRV (can't calculate the heating cost of running with makeup air). Is there something better? I've seen some reports of European fans that passively heat the incoming air, but they are expensive and have no numbers for humidity control. IM

Plau, Your Honeywell Prestige thermostat appears to have all the necessary controls for both dehumidification and humidification (internal humidity/external temp and humidity/ frost control). It seems like it could replace your VH7200 if you have the necessary wires run. What type of dehumidification equipment are you using? Note that if you are using the setback feature on your thermostat you will have problems @-22 outside. As your indoor air temp is decreasing the RH will be increasing. If you are using the setback at night, the indoor temp/RH is increasing at the same time that your window temps are decreasing. It's very difficult for any system to keep up with these changes. You need to compensate by keeping the RH low during your warm periods so it doesn't hit dew point (at your windows) during setback. For your area, I'm not sure that is a economical tradeoff. Gar furnaces are far more efficient than mechanical dehumidifiers. It might pay to leave the temperature higher and run the dehumidifier less.

Hello Plau, I would be extremely cautious in trying to automate this setup. Your VH7200 is a rather capable device with built in protection to prevent damage to your equipment. This isn't easily replaced with standard automation devices. Without understanding your exact equipment type (heat pump, forced air/mechanical cooling, hydronic, etc,) it's impossible to recommend any replacement. Even if this were known, I would be hesitant to interface automation modules directly to your equipment. Without a lot of thought. they simply won't offer the protection that the VH7200 does. A natural thought would be to replace your existing thermostat with one that included humidity control. There are communicating thermostats available that might be able to safely control your equipment. The fact that you have the VH7200 as a separate device indicates that the functionality is not built into your thermostat and you may not have the wires run to support a humidity control thermostat. I have a lot of automation in my home. The furnace/AC/humidity is something that I leave to dedicated controllers that have the capability of properly controlling/protecting my expensive equipment.

After performing more tests it's painfully evident that I don't have a clue what is going on... The following is a comparison of a 2476D (powerline) vs 2477D (dual band) with timing as identical as I can get it. The 2476D is a V.40 (I2) dimmer. The 2477D is a V.38 (I2) dual-band dimmer. All programs are disabled - except my variable counting program. Passive coupler removed. Accesspoints on each leg of the panel (not my normal configuration). Thinking that this might be a dual-band "echo" that is somehow not being transmitted to the ISY, I replaced the 2477D with a 2477S. To my surprise this worked flawlessly. 2477S V.42 (I2CS) Switch wired in the 2477D dimmer location. Programs enabled/disabled has no effect - program counts consistently. Passive coupler installed/removed has no effect. Accesspoints installed/removed has not effect. Hopefully someone smarter than I can make sense of this...

I agree - I tried this on my one (only) 2477D V.40 and received the same results and virtually identical event log. I have tried disabling programs, removing my passive coupler, and adding accesspoints to no avail. The ISY seems to regard every other paddle press as a "duplicate" event. By slowing the paddle presses to 1 every 3 seconds, the ISY recognizes the presses as "unique" events. This does appear to be something related to the 2477D or the way that the ISY interprets its communications. I have been running similar counting programs on non-dual band relays and dimmers since variables were introduced (fan timer programs). I have never seen a hiccup on these.

Hello again mfranzel, I am not trying to upset you. In my original post, I was inquiring about your configuration (kpl controlling an outlet). I should have posted this as a direct question. You had indicated that your Keypadlinc was a non-dual band unit. The only non-dual band Keypadlinc relays that I know of are the 2486S units which are rated at 13 Amps. Do you have a 2486S relay Keypadlinc controlling a standard outlet? You can check this using the ISY - click on My-Lighting and then find the device type in the right hand pane (under "Type"). If that is the configuration (please respond), I believe it does not comply with NEC code (as Brian also indicated). I was actually more concerned about you trying to place a filter between the KPL and the outlet. The filters are rated at 5 Amps while the KPL is rated at 13 Amps. Adding a filter to this configuration would have been against code AND unsafe.

Sorry, 1 outlet or many makes no difference. It's against code. Whether or not this is a safety issue is debatable. Enough discussion - I'll climb off my high horse. From your description, your CFL's are using the GU24 base. I have not seen LEDs with this base locally. Rather than spending money on new bulbs, you could try plugging your lamps into a filterlinc (assuming you have one). If this solves the problem, you may want to try different bulbs. If it does not, you may have another "unknown" load on the circuit.

Hello mfranzel, If I understand the above correctly, you are using the KPL relay (2486S?) to control a standard duplex outlet. You may very well already know this but, the KPL is not rated to control a duplex outlet. It is rated for "Wired-in incandescent lighting and inductive loads". You could overload the KPL by plugging in an "inappropriate" device at the duplex outlet. If this is the configuration that you are using, please do not try to put a leviton filter between the KPL and the outlet. The leviton filters are only rated at 5 amps.

Hello Bill, I had similar problems with X10 devices not responding. To get around this, I build a "query" scene and included only the devices that I wanted updated. Downside is that it is a maintenance issue (I forget to add new devices) and it consumes additional links in the PLM and devices. Schedule 1 If From 3:00:00AM For 10 minutes Then Set Scene '1 House Query' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

The "query at restart" option behavior is not at all obvious and has what I believe are "dire" consequences. Reported here http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?p=78145#p78145 bsobel added his insight at V 3.3.9 here Release 3.3.9 (RC6) Is Now Available Post 1 and here Release 3.3.9 (RC6) Is Now Available Post 2. Thank you Bill!. While the operation described may be "As Intended", I would submit that it could have serious consequences for the way that I and other users implement programs. Detailed post here: Release 3.3.10 (RC7) - 3.3.8 (RC5) Startup and Query Bugs

I've seen a few other situations that can cause these erroneous results: 1) Programs can interfere with the scene test as they are activated through "status" triggers. Timed events or periodic queries can also wreak havoc. Programs Enabled Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:18 : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 3D 13 00 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.D2.68 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.D2.68-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.4F.6B 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 1A.4F.6B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 03.D3.46 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 03.D3.46-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.8C.CD 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 09.8C.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.E5.EC 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:19 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0A.E5.EC-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- [succeeded] David Switch (1A 4F 6B 1) [Failed] MBath KPL B - Vanity (F BF A4 2) [Failed] MBath KPL A - Vanity (F BF A4 1) [succeeded] Mud KPL 4 - 2nd Floor (9 8C CD 4) [Failed] Matt Inline (E E4 62 1) [succeeded] Master KPL H - David Bed (A E5 EC [succeeded] Master KPL F - Kath Bed (A E5 EC 6) [succeeded] Master KPL C - 2nd Floor (A E5 EC 3) [Failed] MBath KPL E - Closet (F BF A4 5) [succeeded] Master KPL D - Matt Bed (A E5 EC 4) [Failed] MBath KPL D - Toilet (F BF A4 4) [succeeded] Master KPL A - Overhead (A E5 EC 1) [succeeded] Master KPL B - Overhead (A E5 EC 2) [Failed] Master Bath Tub (16 92 BD 1) [succeeded] Kath Icon (3 D3 46 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL A (F D2 68 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL B - Light (19 46 CE 2) [Failed] Master Bath Toilet (14 78 B2 1) [Failed] Master Bath Shower (1B F4 54 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL C - 2nd Floo (19 46 CE 3) [Failed] Master Table KPL A - Light (19 46 CE 1) [Failed] BSMT KPL Game - 2nd Floor (F FF F1 4) [Failed] Master Table KPL D - Fan (19 46 CE 4) [Failed] Master Bath Closet (14 6C F0 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL B (F D2 68 2) ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- Wed 01/09/2013 17:26:26 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.3D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) Programs Disabled Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:51 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.D5.C5 11.00.02 C7 06 00 (00) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:51 : [std-Group ] 21.D5.C5-->11.00.02, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:51 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.D5.C5 11.00.02 C7 06 00 (00) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:52 : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 3D 13 00 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.D2.68 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.D2.68-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.4F.6B 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 1A.4F.6B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 03.D3.46 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 03.D3.46-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.8C.CD 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 09.8C.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.E5.EC 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0A.E5.EC-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.E4.62 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0E.E4.62-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.E4.62 0C.A8.B4 67 09 FD LNK-ON (FD) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:53 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0E.E4.62-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.FF.F1 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.FF.F1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 19.46.CE 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 19.46.CE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 14.6C.F0 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 14.6C.F0-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.F4.54 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:54 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 1B.F4.54-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 14.78.B2 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 14.78.B2-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.92.BD 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 16.92.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.BF.A4 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:27:55 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.BF.A4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- [succeeded] David Switch (1A 4F 6B 1) [succeeded] MBath KPL B - Vanity (F BF A4 2) [succeeded] MBath KPL A - Vanity (F BF A4 1) [succeeded] Mud KPL 4 - 2nd Floor (9 8C CD 4) [succeeded] Matt Inline (E E4 62 1) [succeeded] Master KPL H - David Bed (A E5 EC [succeeded] Master KPL F - Kath Bed (A E5 EC 6) [succeeded] Master KPL C - 2nd Floor (A E5 EC 3) [succeeded] MBath KPL E - Closet (F BF A4 5) [succeeded] Master KPL D - Matt Bed (A E5 EC 4) [succeeded] MBath KPL D - Toilet (F BF A4 4) [succeeded] Master KPL A - Overhead (A E5 EC 1) [succeeded] Master KPL B - Overhead (A E5 EC 2) [succeeded] Master Bath Tub (16 92 BD 1) [succeeded] Kath Icon (3 D3 46 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL A (F D2 68 1) [succeeded] Master Table KPL B - Light (19 46 CE 2) [succeeded] Master Bath Toilet (14 78 B2 1) [succeeded] Master Bath Shower (1B F4 54 1) [succeeded] Master Table KPL C - 2nd Floo (19 46 CE 3) [succeeded] Master Table KPL A - Light (19 46 CE 1) [succeeded] BSMT KPL Game - 2nd Floor (F FF F1 4) [succeeded] Master Table KPL D - Fan (19 46 CE 4) [succeeded] Master Bath Closet (14 6C F0 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL B (F D2 68 2) ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- Wed 01/09/2013 17:28:00 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.3D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) 2) Pending writes against a device will interrupt a scene test. To test the following I unplugged a lamplinc and then instructed the ISY to include it in a scene. That obviously failed since the device was unplugged (! mark next to the device). There are, however, writes pending against the device (ISY wants to complete the scene addition). Apparently, when the scene test is activated the write update to the devices also activates. This interrupts the scene test response as shown below. The device with pending writes can be anywhere in the system. It does not need to be a member of the scene being tested. Pending writes against a device Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:45 : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 3D 13 00 06 Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:46 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0F.D2.68 0C.A8.B4 61 13 3D LTOFFRR(3D) Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:46 : [std-Cleanup Ack] 0F.D2.68-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:46 : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 15 ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- [Failed] David Switch (1A 4F 6B 1) [Failed] MBath KPL B - Vanity (F BF A4 2) [Failed] MBath KPL A - Vanity (F BF A4 1) [Failed] Mud KPL 4 - 2nd Floor (9 8C CD 4) [Failed] Matt Inline (E E4 62 1) [Failed] Master KPL H - David Bed (A E5 EC [Failed] Master KPL F - Kath Bed (A E5 EC 6) [Failed] Master KPL C - 2nd Floor (A E5 EC 3) [Failed] MBath KPL E - Closet (F BF A4 5) [Failed] Master KPL D - Matt Bed (A E5 EC 4) [Failed] MBath KPL D - Toilet (F BF A4 4) [Failed] Master KPL A - Overhead (A E5 EC 1) [Failed] Master KPL B - Overhead (A E5 EC 2) [Failed] Master Bath Tub (16 92 BD 1) [Failed] Kath Icon (3 D3 46 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL A (F D2 68 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL B - Light (19 46 CE 2) [Failed] Master Bath Toilet (14 78 B2 1) [Failed] Master Bath Shower (1B F4 54 1) [Failed] Master Table KPL C - 2nd Floo (19 46 CE 3) [Failed] Master Table KPL A - Light (19 46 CE 1) [Failed] BSMT KPL Game - 2nd Floor (F FF F1 4) [Failed] Master Table KPL D - Fan (19 46 CE 4) [Failed] Master Bath Closet (14 6C F0 1) [succeeded] Master Fan KPL B (F D2 68 2) ----- SC 2nd Floor Test Results ----- Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:53 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 3D CF 13 00 Wed 01/09/2013 17:45:53 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.3D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) 3) Disabled devices. If a device has been disabled in the ADMIN tree it will show up as "failed" in the scene test. Probably not what you are experiencing, but something to keep in mind. Tip on disabling programs. Tired of using the program summary tab to enable/disable programs? Use a variable in the main "My Programs" folder. Folder Conditions for 'My Programs' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If $Programs_Enable is 1 Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. IM

Hello George, I'm thinking you are trying to find the ID of a backyard station near you. Not at all intuitive - as you'll see. 1) Navigate to the weatherbug site and enter your ZIP code (if it hasn't picked up the location from your browser). 2) Weatherbug will select a Station near you. It will NOT select a backyard station (which may be closer). 3) Select "Change Weather Station". 4) Weatherbug will bring up a map of local stations. You may need to pan back to find your actual location. Backyard stations are shown in yellow as depicted in the graphic below. I am in the little burg of Granger, which happens to be close to the KD8FW station. 5) Select the backyard station, click "set station", and you'll be returned the the main station page as shown below. The station ID will be similar to the highlighted ID I'm showing in the address bar (p04609 in this case). Enter this into the ISY "location ID" and click save. It should bring up the readings for that station. Be careful in selecting your station. Not all stations provide rainfall, wind speed, etc. Worse yet, not all stations are "maintained". My selection of KD8FW was based on good consistent readings, the fact that he's a HAM (speaks well in my mind). The fact that I've know him since grade school doesn't even enter into the equation. Hope this helps, IM

Initial upgrade from 3.3.5 to 3.3.7: Don't remember the ISY performing a Query at restart. This normally requires quite a bit of time on my system. The lack of a query could explain the inability to control ramp rates, etc. Reboot: ISY does perform a query on reboot. Curiously, my 2 AM shutdown program evaluates to "true" and runs. Local time is after 10 AM. I have a similar program set to turn off the basement at 11:20 - it does not run. Program is set NOT to run at startup. Thought this might be an error with the grace period. Set the grace period to 0 with the same effect. If Time is 2:00:00AM Then Set Scene '1st Floor / SC 1st Floor Off' Off Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Basement / SC BSMT' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link Table Reads: Can't read the last record (511) from device EEprom anymore (range restricted to 510 by ISY). This was very handy for determining X10 addresses, etc. Can we get this back? I can read the 127th record from my Icon units with the reduced memory. Icon Config info: 127 : 0C00 : 50 10 39.00.00 00 00 00 Downgraded to 3.3.5: 1) 2 AM program still runs on re-boots. Disabling "Catch up Schedules at Re-start" prevents the program from running. 2) Link table read range restricted in 3.3.5 as well. Not sure when this was implemented.

foxcob and JCBond, I have not seen the button issue on my V.39 KPL. The KPL does exhibit the backlight issue. Since the button action is controlled by the link table, would you mind performing a "device link scan" and compare? Please post the results if you see compare differences.

Michel, I concur with foxcob and JCbond. After upgrading from 3.3.5 to 3.3.7 I can no longer control backlight on KPL's (mine are I2). Backlight on my I2CS SWL works fine. Below are the event viewer results for the respective firmware revisions. Neither generates errors. 3.3.5 adjusts KPL lighting, 3.3.7 does not. Let me know if you need additional information V3.3.5 KPL Backlight Sun 12/30/2012 15:50:33 : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 19 46 CE 1F 2E 00 01 07 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B Sun 12/30/2012 15:50:33 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 19.46.CE 1F 2E 00 01 07 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4B 06 (00) Sun 12/30/2012 15:50:33 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 19.46.CE 0C.A8.B4 2B 2E 00 (00) Sun 12/30/2012 15:50:33 : [std-Direct Ack] 19.46.CE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 V3.3.7 KPL Backlight Sun 12/30/2012 16:03:26 : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 19 46 CE 1F 2E 00 00 03 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50 Sun 12/30/2012 16:03:26 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 19.46.CE 1F 2E 00 00 03 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50 06 (00) Sun 12/30/2012 16:03:26 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 19.46.CE 0C.A8.B4 2B 2E 00 (00) Sun 12/30/2012 16:03:26 : [std-Direct Ack] 19.46.CE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Managed to catch one of the DBLL's in the act of activating/de-activating the scene. This does not appear to be in response to any Insteon or X10 activity. Setup for the following log: [*:33j35vnk]2457D2 LL (V.3B) @18.93.83: Load Sense enabled with local Incandescent Lamp turned off. Scene controller [*:33j35vnk]2457D2 LL (V.3B) @18.8F.3C: Load Sense enabled with Local Incandescent Lamp turned ON. Scene controller [*:33j35vnk]2486DWH8 KPL @0A.A9.A5: Button 3 Scene controller [*:33j35vnk]2842 Motion sensor @21.D5.C5: Linked to PLM only (program control for another scene). [*:33j35vnk]Red: 2457 turning on [*:33j35vnk]Blue: 2457 turning off [*:33j35vnk]Black: other (unrelated?) events In the log below, the LL @18.93.83 appears to spontaneously activate and then de-activate 1 second later. There are no consistent Insteon communications associated with this event. The activity only occurs if the local lamp is switched off. If the lamp is on, everything works "swimmingly". Curiously, this only appears to happen during the evening hours. I'm guessing that I have some line voltage variations that occur during the evening that "trick" the LL into thinking that the load has switched on. Some combination of the capacitance in the lamp combining with the current sense and the line voltage... My Wife has complained that the problems only occur when she is alone in the family room curled up with her book. She's accused me of programming the system to PI$$ her off. I of course point out that, after 30+ years of bliss, I hardly need to look for new buttons to push. Unfortunately, after reviewing the logs, she does have a point. The times in the log below line up with "book time". What has me a bit peeved is that this configuration worked for 7 years when I was using my old 2856 Icon LampLincs ('05 vintage). These were installed with local sensing via X10 addresses and worked flawlessly in the same location with the same loads. These finally died (1 triac, 1 power supply failure) and I moved the DB-LL's into place. Am I missing something in the log below? I do not have any of the "old" Lamplincs left. I'm about to try applicancelincs with X10 addresses to restore my Wife's reading time to normal.

I have a similar situation happening between two 2457D2's. The devices are setup as controllers (local load sense enabled) of the same scene along with a KPL. I use the LL's as controllers so that my better half can turn one lamp off locally and turn off the scene. Both LL's are connected to 60W incandescent loads. Everything works fine as long as both loads are applied (on locally). If one lamp is off, and the scene is activated, the second lamp will turn off - on - off after an indeterminate period of time. To date I have not been able to catch this in the event viewer - I haven't been monitoring when the "event" happens. I do see the devices intermittently turning on/off in the log. No X10 codes Devices factory reset/restored Waiting to catch them in the act - typically happens when the better half is involved with a good book (i.e. not good for me or Insteon).