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Thanks for this. I use ML and have also been having problems, exactly as described here, but only about 50% of the time. Will hope it gets fixed soon.

YES!! Get a Polisy. Look through the store lists for applicable third party interfaces. This is the easiest way. Devices will show up in your Tree as nodes. GREATEST innovation yet by Universal Devices and all the programmers who write the node-servers. @Michel Kohanim Search the forum for more info. For example, I run my ecobee thermostat, Russound sound system, Swimming pool, Kasa lights, Hue lights, etc. all integrated.

Similar efforts here. To keep things more obvious, I add the letters LD, for Leave Disabled, at the end of each program name that should be disabled. Also have a startup program that manually disables them all at startup. By using the LD, I can find them all quickly and check them etc. This is the program. ....The trick is to keep it up to date! Startup Disabled Programs LD - [ID 011E][Parent 01EB][Not Enabled][Run At Startup] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Disable Program 'Alarm Turn Off LD' Disable Program 'Alert from Front MD LD' Disable Program 'Announce Front Doorbell LD' Disable Program 'Announce Rear Doorbell LD' Disable Program 'Awning position checkClosed LD' Disable Program 'Awning position checkOpen LD' Disable Program 'Rain Test Bedroom Door' Disable Program 'Dog In Sensor LD' Disable Program 'Dog Out Sensor LD' Disable Program 'Dog out for 1 hour LD' Disable Program 'Dogs Going Out LD' Disable Program 'Dogs Home Alert LD' Disable Program 'Dogs Home Stop Alert LD' Disable Program 'Doorbell Chimes and Actions LD' Disable Program 'Entrance way On LD' Disable Program 'Rain Test Excersize Door' Disable Program 'Exercise Cans Flash LD' Disable Program 'Rain Test Front Door' Disable Program 'Front Lights Only LD' Disable Program 'Front Lights and Spotlights LD' Disable Program 'Garage Back Door Test LD' Disable Program 'Garage Mid Auto Shut LD' Disable Program 'Garage Mid Count LD' Disable Program 'Garage North Auto Shut LD' Disable Program 'Garage North Count LD' Disable Program 'Garage South Auto Shut LD' Disable Program 'Garage South Count LD' Disable Program 'Garbage open middle door LD' Disable Program 'Garbarge Exit LD' Disable Program 'Heat Matt Alert reset LD' Disable Program 'Heat Matt on Morning 2 Hours LD' Disable Program 'Jacuzzi tub mood End Action LD' Disable Program 'Lock Mud Room Door LD' Disable Program 'Lock Rear Garage Door LD' Disable Program 'Mbath Shower Cans Flash LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Doug reading 2 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Doug reading 3 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Doug reading 4 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Doug reading 5 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Spot LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Wendy reading 2 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Wendy reading 3 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Wendy reading 4 LD' Disable Program 'Mbed Wendy reading 5 LD' Disable Program 'Pole Barn Lights LD' Disable Program 'Ring Chimes LD' Disable Program 'SP Cans Flash LD' Disable Program 'Set 00 LD' Disable Program 'Set 15 LD' Disable Program 'Set 30 LD' Disable Program 'Set 45 LD' Disable Program 'Set 500 LD' Disable Program 'Set 600 LD' Disable Program 'Set 700 LD' Disable Program 'Set 800 LD' Disable Program 'Alarm Snooze LD' Disable Program 'Visitor 1 Rearm system Away LD' Disable Program 'Visitor 2 Lights on LD' Disable Program 'X10 Codes LD' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Leave disabled.. called by Startup

same here as Goose and Carealtor

@Michel KohanimAll my Nodeservers stopped working. When I went to the store, all polyglots are showing as "Install", versus Uninstall, or update for the 12 I have running. Rebooted Polisy. Restarted Polyglots. No change. The log was empty. All node servers showed connected and running, but none of them were reporting live information; information was 11 day old for all cases. Finally went and unplugged it, waited, replugged it in. All node servers running properly now. Log filled up quickly with many pages of proper start up info, however, FYI, at the end, there is a series of errors that seem to be related to the reboot. Log attached for your info. Cheers. Doug polyglot_9-21-2021_124653_PM.txt

Have recently upgraded to 5.3.3. Zwave issue with the my three Yale YRD120 locks continue to exist exactly as @thecourciere states above. -No update of status. -Also lost "control" options in IF statements. Only can monitor status. This is a real problem. Have tons of programs that monitor lock status, controls and users. Controls are out. Have added Queries after each ISY change of lock position, but dont think its going to work as I have it currently. Disappointing. Is there a fix coming for this? Or is this a limitation that will never be solved>? Thanks

@drinkwater I have simliar programs in most of the rooms where I have sensors turning on lights. however I shorten the disable time to the minimum time it takes to leave the space, ie a small powder room is 5 seconds, another room I use 10 seconds etc. This way the motion detector can do its job again right away. This manually initiated disabling of the MS is needed for guests who dont know that the lights will turn off by themselves, so they always want to manually turn them off as they leave a room. Overall this combination of two programs has always worked well.

Same here.

@nathan Thanks for your posts. Have been debating to upgrade from 5.0.16c to 5.3, which would include upgrading my Zwave dongle, but I am using 3 YRD120 locks with Zwave, not Zwave Plus, so will avoid the upgrade for now, assuming the 3rd 120 will have the same problem. Will wait.

I too am on the 4.55.00 version. In all the posts, it is always referenced as 500 or 300 series board, and yet in all the Info menu items, this is never reported, just "Zwave 21100", or Zwave 4.55.00.... Why do we have to create so much confusion on something like this? It would be nice if the nomenclature being used matched what was available in the ISY Get info options. ...Just sayin'

Thanks for all the input. Zwave wont work fo me here as its an isolated pole barn w/o zwave. My plan is to purchase 3- $25 motion sensors that mount on spotlight fixtures, wire them all together to the sense from an micro on/ off, which will then through ISY manage the Insteon light switches for all the spots. The MD and the I/O linc will need power, separate from the switched floodlights. @HABit the easiest way to overcome that is to think of the motion control and the light switch control as two separate program areas that need to compliment each other, so for example a new program with a “when switch is turned on” program, then disables the motion program for x minutes or until the switch is turned off. I will need to using something similar. Cheers.

Update on the above. This has worked out great. I have the two "sensor" sides of the beam wired to two separate I/O Lines that then report to the ISY. Have had them installed now for 6 months w/o any issues. Work well and reliably and are very discreet. But am still looking for an elegant solution for a Motion Sense Spotlight that can talk easily to the ISY. Why this doesn't exist is puzzling Insteon moves more into the "security" area. Thanks.

ok.. I am into polisy now.. have run the curl command, its loading the update.. what is the reboot command? do I need to do anything else? Update: script tells you how to reboot.. 12.2 successfully loaded.. thanks everyone!! hope it solves my issues FINAL UPDATE: All working now! thanks as usual for all the support!

not working.. or over my head... lol if I remotely change my port forwarding for polisy to 22, it should work then to get into it and update it and then change the port forwarding back to where the isy knows where it is?

Found a site as to how to do it in terminal.. will try that.. thanks

no.. I havent changed anything.. using terminal on Mac remotely, with an address to my home router with port forwarding to the Polisy at port xxx... did get one time an error from terminal about nothin at port 22.. so if I am understanding you correctly, when I get to my router via SSH, it is automatically going to port 22 which is not where the polisy is at, and that is my problem.. if so, then how do I specify a port for ssh that matches where my polisy is at? thanks

so I have port forwarding os I can connect to my polisy remotely generally.. is this different for SSH connection? I am using a different port than 22 for my polisy.

should I not be using my own id / password? also I am remote so am going through a dyndns server with a port number attached via a colon. have tried several combos w/o luck yet.. will keep trying,.

Can you expand on this for those of us not technical? I havent used an SSH program in a long long time... on a Mac and remote..any suggestions of how to to do this? What is CURL.. and what do I do with line 2 if I am able to figure out how to SSH into polisy? thanks. need to fix this as I rely on this new connected device and the dozen node servers...

Recently did an update to 4 or 5 node servers... Polisy now seems to act normal, however, I cant stop or delete any node servers, nor are there any logs. I have rebooted it several times, also cleared my caches on my browser.. am remote so I cant unplug it.. UPDATE: Each activity I click on, the green bars shows up to acknowledge it, but nothing happens and ALL node servers are no longer working in the ISY.... after the last reboot, the polisy uptime is frozen. any suggestions?

Once you have the above, you can also access your ELK via the MobiLinc app on your phone. You can control outputs, see all your zones, and arm /disarm accordingly.

I dont think it would add anything based on what you have shared. There are times for example where you may want a group of programs to run, but where the IF statement is complex, and then certain of these other programs may have their own additional IF criteria. In this case, this program may turn false if an element of the original group turns false, but that may not be what you wanted. The point being is that the complexity of IFs can be greatly simplified sometimes using conditional variables with just one program controlling the variable, or folders with conditional variables, But if you only have three and they are pretty simply, no need to add another layer through a variable. I also will use variables to signify a certain condition. I then have that variable drive a simple program that is true or false, that I then use in Mobilinc. phone app. on the dashboard to quickly tell if something is open or shut (garage door). etc.

I used to use a lot fancy things with existing switches to initiate different things, but generally I was the only one that could do anything. Then Alexa became usable. We now interact as follows: Direct switches 0 (except occasionally for that light, but never to initiate things), keypads 10%, Mobilinc 20%, Alexa 70%, with my wife at 100% for Alexa. Alexa revolutionized the ISY for my family of which allowed me to expand ISY use greatly. Everything from simple lighting changes (scenes) for the main level: Alexa, turn on kitchen mood, or kitchen dinner, or kitchen supper, or kitchen evening, or kitchen nightlight, or directly any of ~20 switches in this main room. or more complex routines like "Goodnight" which initiates a bedtime lighting routine changing over 30 minutes and then monitors for any light to be turned on and left on for more than 20 minutes to locking the doors, arming the security, and then setting off morning routines either based on an alarm time, or a set time, or "goodmonring" etc, that based on temps, turn on a fireplace, certain lights, unarms the system, prepares for a dog sensor for the dog to go out (to then remind us he is still out or notify us if he comes back into the garage), etc. Power of Alexa directly interfacing with ISY, along with (the harder to remember) custom routines has really been the key to making ISY an ongoing loved part of our house vs an isolated hobby of mine that generally annoyed others. lol

@TheHarbinger As you can see from the above responses, those are very experienced experts on ISY and have been creating programming for a long time and therefore are great resources. Sometimes in the beginning though it can be very confusing as to how to go about getting the system "structure" that will work for you long term. For most, it takes starting simple to experience different methods and then settle on the ones that will work for you. A great starting place is to glance through the ISY Cookbook, located about ½ down this page. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Some key concepts that are mentioned in the above responses: -Scenes: These include devices which can have different preset ON values etc. For example: when I turn on Kitchen Dinner scene, light 1 turns off, light 2 turns to 60%, light three to 100% etc. When I turn the scene off, they all go off. Its a very easy and powerful way to control quickly and locally -Programs: Allow for an infinite number of IF / THEN / ELSE combinations. For example, I could initiate the above Kitchen Dinner scene, through turning on button A of a 6 button Insteon switch. Or I could do it though Alexa via voice command. Or it could come on at sunset and go off 3 hours later, etc etc. One program can call any other number of programs, or disable, them or enable them, etc THIS IS THE REAL POWER OF THE ISY. Its infinite. -Variables: By using variables, you can put overriding conditions on any program, initiate programs, or even a folder containing many programs. ie: the AWAY examples above demonstrate this. By setting a variable AWAY to 1, then all your programs that you want to run while you are away will execute. You can put delay timers in etc so if its initatied var button B on a keypad, then you may delay it 30 minutes until you leave the house. The biggest learnings most have when beginning is with nomenclature. Consistency will pay huge dividends down the road as your system expands and gets more complicated. Some of basic tips most use include: All lights in the same room start with the same room name: Kitchen cans, Kitchen island, Kitchen sink.. etc. This way they are all grouped together alphabetically. Programs should use a similar structure in naming so that all related programs for a given task are easily identified and grouped. For example a program called Lights off is poor name.. which lights? better would be Kitchen lights off, Kitchen lights on, Kitchen lights dim at evening etc. All kitchen activities start with the word Kitchen. As your programing skill with ISY expands, you will want to have some programs that are Disabled. These programs do not test the IF statement unless called by another program. Sometimes during reboots or programing etc it gets confusing which programs should be disabled. I have adopted a naming process where I add LD to the end of any program to reference and remind me to Leave Disabled. Variables become a key part of any system as well. There are State and Integer variable types. Some put a S before each state variable name and and I before each integer name. Since I have 5x more state variables than integers, I simply just add the I to integer and assume if there is no I then its a state. Anyway, the ISY is an amazingly solid platform with lots of levels of complexity to discover. Feel free to DM me if you ever have a simple concept you would like an outline for etc. Cheers, welcome and good luck!

So far so good.... will keep an update.