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@macjeff I am on IoP and slowly converting my PG2 to PG3. However the Ring Nodeserver is only available on PGC, so that is why I was using PGC. I see it will be ported over to PG3, so will just wait. thanks

Noticed yesterday that my Ring notifications weren't working. Today tried to log into PGC to see what is going on. I get stuck on the circle "loading". Nothing happens. I can back out of that screen and get back to the front screen. Doesn't look like it can find my IoP. Tried to Click on Refresh ISYs. Nothing happens. No ISYs are located. Any ideas? Has been working w/o problems since I migrated to IoP a few weeks ago. Thanks.

@DPhelps This wiki alos does a good job of helping with how programs execute in ISY. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Scope,_Precedence_and_Execution_Order This wiki has a link to the Cookbook and many other resources for self learning. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Jim, did a stop / start of the Nodeserver. Updated successfully! However, after hitting stop, it doesn't appear to actually stop. the "time running" continues to move forward. I eventually also did a Restart, and then the time reset and began again. FYI.

So Jim, just to clarify, restore will REPLACE everything on pg3 ? So if i have Nodeservers lets say 1-8 on PG2 and two others on PG3, 9,10, if i do a backup / restore to pg3, i would loose 9 and 10?

Two additional thoughts: -I tag programs as I mentioned above with LD for leave disabled and SD for sometimes disabled for those that get disabled / re-enabled through programs, again, just so I can more easily remember quickly. Sometimes expand in the comment of the program as well. -Use of the letter I for integer based variables and the letter S for state. ( I choose to just use I and then assume w/o it, it is a State)

@jimboJust upgraded to 3.1.2. All went fine. above issue did no t happen. I had the AC closed during upgrade.

@Traditore If you go with the two program method and require one of the programs to be disabled, you may consider sometime of "tag" in the title. I use LD for leave disabled. The reason for this is that at times programs can get enabled or disabled, at startup etc, and this is a really quick way, when looking at the summary tab, moving columns to check all your programs for the correct setting, and it also is a good reminder that it is disabled for a purpose, not just because you wanted to stop it one day for a break, ie guests in the house or something.

@SLP with your background in programing, one thing that has been "hinted" at here is how the ISY is STATE driven programming method. If anything happens to the STATE of any item in the IF statement, the IF statement will be evaluated at that time, no matter where it is in its execution. This wiki does a great job of how programs are executed within the ISY: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Scope,_Precedence_and_Execution_Order Example: Within the Then or Else clause of a program, statements are executed from top to bottom in the order in which they occur. When a statement calls another program, the called program begins executing, and the calling program immediately continues execution with the next statement in sequence--it does not wait for the called program to complete before continuing. A series of statements within a Then clause (or within an Else clause), up to the next Wait or Repeat statement, are atomic. In other words, all such statements are executed before the conditions of the program are retested. The program's conditions are reevaluated each time a Wait or Repeat statement is encountered, and at the end of each iteration of a Repeat loop. What this means is that if a program's Then clause changes a condition which causes the program's overall condition to become false (or if the program's Else clause changes a condition which causes the program's overall condition to become true), the current atomic statement group will complete, and at that point execution will transfer from the Then clause (or the Else clause) to the Else clause (or the Then clause). Therefore, if a Then clause (or an Else clause) contains no Wait or Repeat statements, the entire clause is atomic, and will complete before the program's conditions are reevaluated.

YES.. I have many people that are using it or planning to now with Insteon potentially dying, using lutron but still the home control from isy.

have had a similar problem but with another node server, had to restart pg3 to clear it up. it hung on the restart some how

@vbphil I did the same thing via zwave. got all LAN connections working, then added PG3 to test it. Move everything after that. Felt like it was going to be a huge effort, and because of the number of programs I have and ZWave, But while it took time, it was mostly just retyping / replacing bad code in ISY, but with the text open right next to me from the prep work. Screwed up my Alexa portal though which added an unnecessary 2-3 hours of recreating over 100 commands. Good luck, and always use your latest PLM version, as there is a big difference between certain versions (I forget the details, v1 vs v2?) in performance and capacity.

@vbphil I had the same questions.. here discussion I had with Michel from UDI. 1)Question: I have a spare PLM, can I turn off my ISY, unplug its PLM, plug in a new PLM, and with a "restore" of my backup to the new ISY on polisy, try it, but then quickly go back to the original ISY / PLM combo w/o messing up my switches, portals, Alexacommands, zwave etc? Answer: If you use a new PLM, regardless of whether it’s on Polisy or 994, you MUST Restore Modem. 2) question : -Can I take the current ISY 994i and its matching PLM, put them on a shelf, --> SET #1 -then use a new PLM with restore ISY to Polisy and restore to PLM for testing purposes --> Set #2 -then switch them back and forth as complete Sets, w/o messing up my portal, Alexa, Insteons, zwave etc as they all exist on Set #1? Answer: Yes you can but but but but but … you are talking about INSTEON. Every time you restore a modem, all devices must also be updated. So, you cannot just swap set 1 with set 2 and hope everythingworks because, in the process of setting up set 2, you are severing the linkages to the PLM in set 1

I think I did, but honestly, I dont remember! But sounds like its an Elk issue. The elk voice has some other oddities as well, where it "accumulates" voice commands during "no speak" time rules, and then when the first voice talks, it dumps out the accumulated voices first.

@Jimbothanks for adding voice to the elk NS! In testing I found the following to work properly: Then Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word [500ms_Silence] Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word [500ms_Silence] Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word [800hz_Tone] Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word Front Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word Door (I use the silent command and beep to "wake up" the paging system.) However, when I used the following set up, the page came across as "Front Door is Open". The status should not have been included, and the door was actually shut. Then Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word [500ms_Silence] Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word [500ms_Silence] Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Word [800hz_Tone] Set 'ELK Controller' Speak Phrase Front Door Not a big problem, as I can use words vs phrases, but may need to check some of the others.

@jimbo. YEAH!!! Thanks

@peterathans Am not 100% sure what you are asking, but here is a screen shot of my Admin console / Configuration / system / Network Settings, as well as my mobilinc settings. All is working as expected. Once you change your mobilinc settings be sure to click on Tap to Sync with ISY

Thanks. I actually followed the earlier directions: upgraded PG2 then through sudo, restarted polisy which restarted IoP (ISY on polisy), PG2 and PG3. All worked after startup! now running 3.040 version on PG3 thanks! ***UPDATE: Query all ran fine last night!!

I think its this post? directions: update PG2, then restart PG3 via sudo commands?

Jim what is the best way to upgrade it?

It appears mine has just started working again as well. IOS 15.3, mobilinc. I did not do anything to the variable since before when it was working and then through the time period where it quit working.

PG3 is still being perfected. Am not sure how well the conversion of each of those nodes would go or if they are even available on PG3 yet. Elk on pg3 works very well, but there are some bugs still being worked out. Have you ever seen this: https://konnected.io I installed this device in a second home and it works great. This is a fabulous inexpensive product and upgrade of old alarm systems. Not sure if anyone has looked into a node server for it though. I use SmartThings at the second home.

very long thread here about Insteon

@someguy This actually is already in there under the ISY part. Thanks!

You may want to read through this post, especially the last few items in regards to Zwave.