EricK

Stu, I posted in the leak sensor program thread: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/11566-leak-sensors-a-suggested-complete-program-package/page-5 I did find an error in my program. Thank you for replying, as usual. Eric

The problem persisted with my patch program off. Heartbeat is on. I carefully analyzed this program: If $s.LeakSensorLaundry is 1 And Time is Last Run Time for 'Leak Sensor - Laundry variable control 3' + 26 hours Then $s.LeakSensorLaundry = 3 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This program is wrong, it is a circle. It should be: If $s.LeakSensorLaundry is 1 And Time is Last Run Time for 'Leak Sensor - Laundry variable control 2' + 26 hours Now I am not sure why this problem with the notification just began after almost a year if the program was wrong from the beginning. Unless I somehow altered the program while checking over things during the last few weeks. All of my other leak sensor programs are correct. Now that I have this fixed we'll have to see what happens. If I still get the notification then I will add the delay. Thank you very much. Eric

I had this posted in the leak sensor how to thread. With the leak sensor back in the kitchen the variable is still one. I have a spare leak sensor that I set up to put in the laundry room. Hello, I thought things with my leak sensor were ok, I had not received a notification for about 2 weeks. However, last night I received notification that the laundry leak sensor variable=3. I just looked in the admin console and the variable is 3. There was no entry for last run for the variable control 3 program. There is good communication with the leak sensor. I kept it out of the laundry room for a while and had no problems. I placed it back in the laundry room a few days ago, not quite behind the washing machine, with an AP plugged in a few feet away. It is possible that this was three days ago, so by the time 26 hours passed for the variable to get to 3, then for the notification to come (I have it set to send at 6pm), that placing the leak sensor back in the laundry room coincided with the problem. I am trying to understand the cause of this problem. It seems that the only way for the variable =3 is for the variable control 3 program not to run for 26 hours, then to run to get the then to set the variable to 3. Is there a communication drop with the device so the communication does not run. I made a patch program to set the variable to 1. I have a spare leak sensor so I may swap devices. Thanks, Eric

Larry, The program should be running at startup but I will verify. I had not received a notification for almost two weeks and it is just the one leak sensor. All others are fine. I did not receive a notification tonight, so far so good. Eric

Hello, I thought things with my leak sensor were ok, I had not received a notification for about 2 weeks. However, last night I received notification that the laundry leak sensor variable=3. I just looked in the admin console and the variable is 3. There was no entry for last run for the variable control 3 program. There is good communication with the leak sensor. I kept it out of the laundry room for a while and had no problems. I placed it back in the laundry room a few days ago, not quite behind the washing machine, with an AP plugged in a few feet away. It is possible that this was three days ago, so by the time 26 hours passed for the variable to get to 3, then for the notification to come (I have it set to send at 6pm), that placing the leak sensor back in the laundry room coincided with the problem. I am trying to understand the cause of this problem. It seems that the only way for the variable =3 is for the variable control 3 program not to run for 26 hours, then to run to get the then to set the variable to 3. Is there a communication drop with the device so the communication does not run. I made a patch program to set the variable to 1. I have a spare leak sensor so I may swap devices. Thanks, Eric

Jtara, I'll have to check my isy but I never use button groups. For newer kpls you should be able to add buttons to a scene and have them turn off in response to a scene triggered by a Kpl button on the same Kpl. I have an older Kpl on which a few buttons turn on instead of turning off in response to a dining scene triggered by a Kpl button on another Kpl. I have a clean up program that is triggered by the dining scene kpls to turn off a dining correction scene for which those misbehaving buttons are responders. Sometimes things don't work perfectly (Stu has called these gremlinks) but fortunately you can use the isy to easily set up a few correction programs to get things running like you want. Just remember that you cannot turn off a Kpl button directly. You have to add that button to a scene as a responder and then turn that scene off. For example: If control bathroom main is on. (Status may work better depending upon the device type and if you trigger the main in scene only from the Kpl) Then set scene shave led off. (The shave led is a responder of the shave led off scene). I posted this link in a thread the other day. It has a great description of using programs to monitor scenes. http://www.adamsj.com/isy/basementA.htm Don't give up yet. Eric

I think the isy runs maintenance at 3am so that would not be a good time to run some programs. I would wait until you see any problems before you start trying to fix them. If your system is working properly with good communications then devices should remain in sync. Monitoring programs like in the linc I posted can be used to show the status of a scene. If you have specific issue I would post them so you can get programming help. E

Check the link I posted. You cannot directly control a kpl button. You have to create a scene with the kpl button as a responder. You then turn the scene on or off in order to get the button to turn on or off. Example, if the switch is turned off then the corresponding kpl button turns off. If status switchlinc is off Then Set scene kpl button off Use scenes whenever possible so you don't have a bunch of programs constantly running unnecessarily.

Check out this tutorial http://www.adamsj.com/isy/basementA.htm

If you stick with scenes then everything should stay in sync. However, sometime things do get out of sync. This can be due to a communication issue. Sometimes a kpl button is used to turn on a scene but then one scene member is turned off and the kpl button remains on. Monitoring programs can be used to check for this and turn the kpl off.

Welcome. Create a scene. Add both devices to the scene as controllers. If you added the device as a responder, then remove it from the scene then re-add it as a controller. A device can only be a controller of one scene. If the device is already set as a controller of a scene, then remove it from that scene first. What are you using to control the light from your phone. Whatever you are using, make sure you are turning the scene you created on and off, not just the individual device. Maybe take a look at this isy video. Eric

Use scenes when possible. Devices respond faster since communication is from device to device, not relying on the isy. If you have conditions, timers, etc then you need programs. You can use the program to trigger a scene rather than triggering individual devices. An example would be a scene for outdoor lights with a few members. A program would be needed to turn the scene on from sunset to sunrise. However, you could have a kpl button as a controller of the scene to turn it on directly with no program.

Smokegrub, I like your questions, I am learning a lot. To post your program in the admin console right click on the program and copy to clipboard. When you are typing your post click the code icon, looks like this "<>" and paste into the box. I think your problem is that the deck door program is disabled, so it only runs the one time it is called by the first program. I think you need to have the first program "then enable program 2" and when G is off disable program 2. Maybe in the else for the first program "disable program 2". We'll wait for one of the experts to give us the answer. Eric

Good morning. It has been about 36 hours since I rebooted the ISY. So far so good the leak sensor is back in position and working fine. The variable = 1, not 3 like it was before. The laundry VC program is running. Michel, the leak sensor is behind the washing machine, but very close to some DB devices. I brought it 10' into the kitchen where my laptop was with the admin console up to check it. Eric

You can pull the set button to air gap the switches, just be careful when you push them back in so you don't reset them. I would go with the tape idea.

Teken, I rebooted and the Laundry Leak sensor variable=1. The variable control 2 program shows that it is running. I did not get an alert yesterday, but I had triggered the HB of the leak sensor the day before. We'll see what happens. Thank you, Eric

Bump. Still receiving a daily alert that the laundry variable control program is not running (variable=3). When I check in the admin console it shows that the program is running. Not sure what to do. Eric

Thanks Stu, I got it now.

Oberkc, I'm not the OP, just was throwing in my two cents. What he wrote was: "I want to press a kpl button (g), wait 5 minutes and if a door sensor is on send a notification" That is what the program I wrote does. He did not write "watch for a door sensor, and, if triggered." Another instance of the need for the OP to specify exactly what he wants. Eric

Why not If Control g is on And door sensor is on Then Wait 5 minutes Send notification Now if you want the program to trigger if the door sensor is turned on after G then my program will not work. you would need to use status is on for G.

I made the jump to the isy from smartlinc about a year ago. Basic scenes and timer programs are not difficult. When you start adding logic programming can become very complex. That is what this forum is for. Check out this intro video for the isy if you have not. You will probably need mobilinc to control things with your phone. However, you can access the isy with your phone directly and get a list of devices, scenes, or programs and can control them. The interface is very basic, but it works. Make the move and do not look back. Start reading these forums as suggested.

I have a few other monitoring programs, cannot post the code right now. One is for a party scene in the dining room. I believe I have the party button as a non toggle on, so anytime you press it you get the party scene. If one of the lights in the scene is altered from the party scene levels then the party scene button is turned off by a program. Ex: If status ceiling lights is not 100% Then set scene party Kpl button off. I was able to get the sitting room Dim Kpl button to turn off by running the then. The issue was that the isy showed proper behavior, just that the Kpl button would not turn off even when the isy status showed off. This mismatch probably indicates a comm issue. I am going to leave the button as a non toggle off for now and may play more this weekend. With the factory reset maybe things will work better. By the way, I think the Led bulbs are Cree, not Phillips which I had installed in my sons room.

Stu, I think my program should have worked since the ISY showed the correct KPL status, just that the KPL LED did not turn off. Mike, I had tried this program, same issue, the KPL stayed on. If Status 'Sitting Room / Sitting KPL (DB) Lights' is not 20% Or Control 'Sitting Room / Sitting KPL (DB) Lights' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Sitting Room / Sitting Room Dim KPL' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Xathros, That was really what I was looking for. The problem was that if the dim level was changed with the On button, then the Dim KPL would still be on. I tried to set the button to non-toggle off, but the setting did not take. I reset the device, changed the button to non-toggle off. I may play around with it some more to see if I can get the button to only be on if the lights are on 20%. I have some other scene buttons set up like that. Maybe with the reset it will behave, or maybe the new LEDs are interfering. Thanks, Eric

I just installed a 6 button DB KPL in the playroom/sitting room. I have buttons (C and D) for turning the TV on/off and on for play/pause of my WDTV live hub using Network resources. The main on/off buttons are set as controllers of the main lights. The A button is set as a controller of a Dim 20% scene. If the lights are off and I press Dim, the scene works fine. However, if I then press the off button, the Dim Button remains lit, normal behavior. I cannot make the Dim button a responder of the main lights scene, since I would only want this on if the lights are 20%. So I made a monitoring program: If Status 'Sitting Room / Sitting KPL (DB) Lights' is not 20% Then Set Scene 'Sitting Room / Sitting Room Dim KPL' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The ISY is showing the correct status as off, but the KPL remains lit. If I run then the KPL turns off. I think there is a comm issue since I just installed some phillips dimmable BR30 leds, which incidentally work well. The second switch in the 3 way was a single band device and comms with that were sketchy. There is an AP plugged in 1.5 feet from the KPL. I swapped the DB switch that was the load controller to the "slave" spot. Is there a way to make dim button only respond to the off and turn offusing a scene. Maybe I will just make the Dim button not toggle off and have on off trigger the Dim scene with a program. Thanks, E

Two days ago my laundry room leak sensor was not communicating with the ISY. I pulled it from behind the washing machine into the kitchen. I was able to get it to communicate and triggered wet which closed my water valve, so it seemed to be working fine. Today at 6pm I received a leak sensor problem notification, Laundry:3, VC2 program not running. I just came home and coms appear fine. The laundry leak sensor dry and heartbeat are on, wet is off. The leak sensor variable control 2 program shows running, true, last run time last night at 1102pm. The variable control 3 program shows idle, last run time at 105AM today. This is from post 1: I am having a little trouble figuring out what went wrong and why I received the notification. It does appear that everything is working fine. I want to make sure that my leak sensors are working an that I am not going to get a text in the middle of the night for a malfunction. Thanks, Eric