EricK

Hello, Any updates regarding the API. I just installed a Honeywell wifi thermostat this weekend. While I do not see a big need to integrate this one with the ISY right now, I would like to have the option. I have two other thermostats that I am thinking about switching out but am going to hold off until I see what develops with the API. Thanks, E

The second post in this thread is no longer there. This is how you do it: http://ip/WEB/INDEX.HTM#main_panel=false Eric

When I set up something similar for some lights I created two scenes and added the load controller to both scenes as a responder. I did this in case I wanted to add any other devices to the program, I could just add them to the scenes. For example, you get a new keypad with a button that also controls the lights. For the first scene the on level would be set to 100%. For the second scene the on level would be set to 60%. In the program you would then set the first scene on then after 4 hours the second on. For the else you can turn off either scene. I think you could also use an adjust scene and only have one, rather than two scenes. A lot of different ways to skin a cat. Reading threads like this is a big help while still trying to master the ISY. Eric

Not another question, but something to learn from. So I tried this with for our dining scene KPL buttons to monitor the scene. Turn the KPL on if the the devices included in the scene are all on and devices that are supposed to be off are off. And vice versa. We came home and I noticed the dining kpls were both turning on, then off, then on, and so on. Here is the first program to turn the KPL off if the scene is disrupted: If ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots / GR Spots KPL (DB) - E Dining' is not Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet / GR Sink KPL - H Dining' is not Off ) And ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Kitchen Lights' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Island Lights' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Breakfast Lights (DB)' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Cabinets R (DB)' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Family Room Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' is not Off ) Then Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Great Room / GR Dining KPLs' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') And the second program to turn the scene on. I created this by copying the first scene and switching "not offs to off", "ons to offs', and offs to not offs or ons": If ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots / GR Spots KPL (DB) - E Dining' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet / GR Sink KPL - H Dining' is Off ) And ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Kitchen Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet' is not Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Island Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Breakfast Lights (DB)' is not Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Cabinets R (DB)' is not Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Family Room Lights' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' is Off ) Then Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Great Room / GR Dining KPLs' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') What I did not do was to change the conditions to ands instead of ors, like this, which fixed the problem.: If ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots / GR Spots KPL (DB) - E Dining' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet / GR Sink KPL - H Dining' is Off ) And ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Kitchen Lights' is On And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet' is not Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Island Lights' is On And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Breakfast Lights (DB)' is not Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is On And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Cabinets R (DB)' is not Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Family Room Lights' is Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' is Off ) Then Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Great Room / GR Dining KPLs' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Eric This tutorial is very helpful if you are new to the ISY: http://adamsj.com/isy/basementa.htm

Great suggestions all around. Will have to pick up some Tupperware to put under each sink. The water leak stories that scare me the most are the ones where people come home to a swimming pool in their house. So turning off the water when not home is probably the best idea to prevent significant damage. Making this easy with a remote switch makes it more likely that this will happen. Next line is to have metal hoses on the washer and local detection devices. I'll have 9 to start with, but would probably need 25 for good coverage. The flow meter idea is good, but there would be a problem if my wife did some laundry, then ran the dishwasher and the water cut off when he tried to take a shower. I'll consider a battery back up for the valve, but I do not think I will need it. I agree that the chance of a water leak is small and no system is fail safe. We did have a small leak from our pantry fridge water line that was luckily detected by the cleaning girl very early. I just want to minimize the risk of the swimming pool. Thanks for making this thread a great read. Eric

Hi, Edit: I found the problem. I had the KPL response set to 0 in the Night KPL scene. Previously, I was only using the scene to turn the KPL off. With HL I used to set the responders in my all off scenes to On. When the scene was turned off, the responders all turned off. Had I stuck with that system this would have worked fine from the beginning. With the KPL night scene response set to 100, my program works fine. We have a scene called "Night" also used as a morning scene in the great room. The kitchen lights and cabinet lights are on, all other lights are off (including the cabinet R lights). I have a program to turn off the Night button if the scene is disrupted: If Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots / GR Spots KPL (DB) - F Night' is not Off And ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Kitchen Lights' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet' is Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Island Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Breakfast Lights (DB)' is not Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Cabinets R (DB)' is not Off Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Family Room Lights' is On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' is not Off ) Then Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Great Room / GR Night KPL' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I am trying to do the opposite. If only the Kitchen lights and cabinet lights are on, everything else is off, then the night button will light up. Not a big deal and totally not necessary, but trying to make it work. Here is what I have, but it is not working: If Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots / GR Spots KPL (DB) - F Night' is Off And ( Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Kitchen Lights' is On And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Sink KPL - A Cabinet' is not Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Island Lights' is Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Breakfast Lights (DB)' is Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Cabinets R (DB)' is Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Family Room Lights' is Off And Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' is Off ) Then Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Great Room / GR Night KPL' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I even took out the first line, but still not working. What am I missing here? Thanks, Eric

Thanks for the replies. I think placing a switchlinc by the door with labels, water off and water on will help. Plus maybe a keypad indicator to show the valve status. Once I have the valve installed with a bypass bypass I'll need to have a users manual so anyone can see how to bypass the valve, essentially disabling the shut off system. I will avoid the shut off delay and just use direct scene control. My parents have a Generac generator in Fla and their insteon switches work fine when on back-up. I'll have to do a good test of my system when on back-up. Eric

Teken, I plan on having this valve placed on the main. Hopefully we will be good about just turning the water off when we leave the house. I may add water off to the away and home buttons in addition to separate controls. I have room near our door for a dedicated switchlinc. I seen your videos on YouTube. We have a backup generator so hopefully insteon signals will be transmitted if we lose power. As I have written before, it is very unlikely that we will lose power since I just paid big bucks for the generator. Obviously there is no perfect system. We have too many fixtures to do local control which is why I went with the main shut off. Hearing stories from people I know about water leaks makes investment in some type of system worth while. I do like the flow meter system as well. Thank you for your feedback, I was hoping you would post. Eric

I finally got a water shut off valve, ELK WSV2. I have it connected to an io linc as well as to a 12v relay to activate the iolinc sensor when the valve closes. I am copying this set up: I set up the iolinc on to close the valve, off opens it. I created a scene with the io linc as a responder and a leak sensor wet as a controller. I got the sensor wet, triggering the scene, turning the relay on, and the valve closed immediately. I was going to do this with the leak sensor program, just adding a line to close the valve on wet detected and probably will as a back-up since some of the leak sensors can be a little temperamental. Should I set this up just with a program on a delay in case there is a false alarm. On wet detected I would get a text notification. If I delay shut off for 30-60 seconds, then I could interrupt the program with some condition. I think I will control the io linc with a KPL button by the door to the garage or with a dedicated switch linc by the door. This way when we go out I can just turn off the water. Maybe a second KPL button to show the status. Any thoughts on the best way to set this up are appreciated. Eric

I have been doing back-ups of the ISY periodically since I am still adding devices and programs. I don't see any need at this point for me to change the SD card out. Thank you, Eric

Ok. I did not realize there was a card installed already. I thought it was just an empty slot to be used for extra memory. I think memory cards rarely go bad, but do people make a back-up of their card just in case. Eric

Hello, I am trying to figure out if and why I need an SD card for the ISY. I do not have the networking module. I have checked the user guide and found this as a reason to replace the SD card: You have purchased the ISY’s Networking Module and need more storage for the internal web server. For standard ISY use, is there any need to use an SD card? Thank you, Eric

I would put the button in non toggle on mode. This way every time you press the button the scene is activated. Add the kpl buttons that you want to turn off to the scene and set their level as 0, which should turn them off Create a scene and add the nighttime button as a responder to the scene. Create a program: If status if nighttime button is on Then wait 4 seconds Turn off scene nighttime button Now, if you have some kpl buttons that are not turning off appropriately you can also add them to the scene for the nighttime kpl button. Or, do the opposite. Make the button non toggle off and add all of the responders to the nighttime scene that you want to turn off. Create another scene with all of the responders that you want to turn on. Create a program that is if status is off of the kpl that the program that turns on all nighttime devices that you want on, on. My preference is to use the non toggle on Eric

66splitbus, I am fairly new to the ISY, but I have had an io linc for my shades for a few years and one for a garage door (sensor only, not control) I think you could make two simple programs. You have the scene that you added the KPL A button to as a responder, "KPL A button". 1st Program: If Control KPL A is switched on Or Control KPL A is switched off Then Turn Scene KPL A button off. Wait a set amount of time to allow the door to open or close, maybe 10 seconds Run If of program "garage door status" 2nd Program: If Garage door sensor is on (door open) Note: reverse this if the sensor is on when the door is closed. Then Set scene "KPL A button" On Else Set scene "KPL A button" Off When the door opens the KPL will be turned off, second program will run to turn the KPL back on. This will not work if you open or close the door from an app or ISY control panel. For that to work you would need to use Status in the first two programs. However, the then or else in program 2 would trigger the first program again. Eric

Larry, I already sent back 8 of them and was told the firmware was updated. Maybe they sent me back the 8 I sent in. I kept one that worked fine. With the great programming in this thread even the quick wet on triggers the notification. Ill have to do some more testing in water with all of them. I have written before that if I have a metal leak, we'll pick it up right away. E

Hi, How are you guys placing your leak sensors. They seem to trigger perfectly on metal. I put some water on the kitchen counter then put the detectors into the water, saw a flash of light on the sensor, but it never showed wet. When I dipped the sensors into a little bit of water in a container, it triggered wet and stayed wet. Is it possible that having the contacts on the counter is causing trouble. Should the leak sensor be placed on something to lift the contacts off the floor. Eric

Shannon, Let me think about it. The true purpose of the door sensor is just to let me know if the kids left the door open. I probably should just leave it at that. Adding the security function, if the door is opened at night, is probably not needed. However, if someone were to get in and open and then quickly close the door I would not get the notification if there is a wait in the program. Thanks, Eric

I copied this from the product users guide. I slide a small screw driver underneath the set button to pull it out. Then use the screw driver to push and hold in the set button. It can take a couple of tries to do the reset. Sometimes the switch plate can get in the way so taking it off first can help. Factory Reset clears all user settings from Keypad including INSTEON scenes, on-levels, ramp rates, X10 addresses, etc. 1) With a small screwdriver or your fingernail, pull out Set button to create an air gap 2) Wait 10 seconds 3) Push in Set button and hold. Do not let go Keypad will begin to emit a long beep 4) When the beep stops, release the Set button. Device’s embedded software will rewrite all settings to factory defaults A couple of seconds will pass Keypad will double-beep and its LEDs will return to normal brightness The connected load will turn on and Keypad will return to ready mode Eric

Guys, thank you for your help. I did set the sensor back to single node and this works just as I want. The kpl button in the bedroom responds immediately to the sensor. The notification does work on the status, which I thought might not since it is a battery powered device. No one should be opening the door at night so I am going to leave the delay out. How does this look. If the door is left open by the kids then I get a notification at 945PM. Or if the door is opened between 1045PM and 630AM I get a notification. Just in case I go into the basement garage at night to get something I pushed the time back. The alarm function I have is really not needed since thedoor from the garage to the outside is on our actual alarm system. If ( From 10:45:07PM To 6:30:00AM (next day) Or Time is 9:45:00PM ) And Status 'Basement / Basement Devices / Exercise Room - Door Sensor' is On Then Send Notification to 'Eric text' content 'Exercise Room Door is Open' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Eric

Will this work with the sensor status, or does it have to be control? I tested and if the sensor triggers I am getting notification. But what if the door opens at 4pm, when it is 10pm will the notification trigger. Not sure about a battery device.

Here is what I have so far, door sensor set to two nodes: State variable s.ExerciseRoomDoor. If Control 'Basement / Basement Devices / Exercise Room - Door Open' is switched On Then $s.ExerciseRoomDoor = 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If Control 'Basement / Basement Devices / Exercise Room - Door Closed' is switched On Then $s.ExerciseRoomDoor = 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Notification: If From 10:00:07PM To 6:30:00AM (next day) And $s.ExerciseRoomDoor is 1 Then Send Notification to 'Eric text' content 'Exercise Room Door is Open' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Thanks, Eric

Lee, Do I just need to add the fade stop to the if (last two lines in the if section): If Control 'Hall and Foyer / Hallway KPL8 - A - Hallway / Hallway KPL8 - B - Stairs' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Hall and Foyer / Hallway KPL8 - A - Hallway / Hallway KPL8 - B - Stairs' is switched Fast Off Or Control 'Hall and Foyer / Hallway Stairs' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Hall and Foyer / Hallway Stairs' is switched Fade Stop Or Control 'Hall and Foyer / Hallway KPL8 - A - Hallway / Hallway KPL8 - B - Stairs' is switched Fade Stop Then Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Hall and Foyer / Hallway Stairs 50%' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Default on level is 90%. Double tap on or off to go to 50%. Thanks, Eric

I have one hidden door sensor working great. Open the door to the basement and the lights for the stairs turn on. I just installed a second sensor in a door from the basement garage to the house. The kids sometimes play in the garage, it is a big boat garage and good for cozy coupes and tricycles. Sometimes the door into the house gets left open. I already have a sensor with io linc on the garage door itself that sends me a notification at 9pm if the door is open and a Kpl button in the bedroom to show me the door status. I want to do the same with this new door sensor. I think I need to set this up like the leak sensor with an integer variable. Make program(s) if door opens set variable=1, closed=0. Then have a program if time is 9pm and variable=1 send notification. Not to use this as a security system, which we have, but maybe I need a state variable instead. I could have a time range and if the variable=1, meaning someone opens the door at night, then send notification. For the Kpl just make a scene with the door sensor as the controller. Thanks for reading. Eric

No, not based on what you state that you want to happen. The "adjust scene"command would be if you are trying to change ON levels of a scene for a given controller. If, for example, you wanted to have the KPL scene controller turn on the lights to 50% at certain times of the day, and 90% at other times of the day, then you would use the "adjust scene" command. Thank you for the responses. I'll have to think about this. Really the only time I manually adjust the lights is at night if I want to bring them down to 50% a little earlier than the program does. For this reason I should probably use adjust scene at night. The way I have it set up I can go to 90% with a button or switch press or 50% with double presses. The part that does not work well is if I double press the switch on then the lights go to 100 then down to 50. If I double press the Kpl, which would be a double off, the lights turn off then go back to 50. Probably what I should do is add fade down for the controls in my fourth program. Eric

I have the All Off button as H on the 8 button v.43 KPL, set to non-toggle off. When I press the button it does send the off command but the button stays lit. After a few seconds there was a green flash of the set button, but I think that is my correction program to turn off the button. I have had all off buttons for years and this behavior is new. There is a smarthome thread that says the non-toggle off command has been removed http://www.smarthome.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14530. There was another thread in this forum and Michel suggested we wait for the firmware update which I have not tried yet. viewtopic.php?f=26&t=13123 E