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That is my problem with GH mostly and a good lesson for newbies to this sport. I like to use the type of device (no matter if it is a scene, program or device) so if I use bedroom Lights, bedroom red lights, bedroom blue lights, bedroom, bedroom green lights, etc.. etc.. Then I command GH OK google! Turn on bedroom lights Google will respond. Turning on 8 bedroom lights! So if you use a device type with adjectives (hue in this case) , you cannot use just the device name (keep the format constant) or GH will think you mean all of them. Alexa allows this. This is not a big problem as long as you understand that GH does this grouping assumption, when adjective styles are mixed/missing.

As per lilyoyo1 above, this can all be done. Keep your programs short and simple, one for each job and concept that can affect the outcome. Make sure your programs are named with very thought-out and meaningful names, as in any programming sport. Put groups of programs that affect one 'item' in folders so you don't get confused from clutter later.

ISY Portal runs on UDI's servers. Benoit manages the software and notifies the crowd if maintenance is going to be performed. His support has been exemplary.

GH seems more adapted and better sound than Alexa. My Onkyo receiever just got absorbed and became part of the GH community. The synchronisation between my Onkyo receiver and my other 4 GH units is amazing. I find GH much more friendly and candid. It accesses information online better and fills in some blanks that it doesn't understand. (assumes). Eg. Hey Google. Turn off bedroom lights....OK turning off 9 lights in bedroom. I only have two but one does eight different colours. It assumes I mean everything in the bedroom because a colour wasn't used in the command. This is despite having a distinct and defined command using just plain "bedroom lights" Alexa works better for me for home automation control. It will ask you when it doesn't understand a word and operates devices more accurately. Alexa does not seem as user friendly though but they both grow (off each other) every day. I have about 7 units. A few are still in the boxes yet. Yes, GH and Alexa can both exist in the same house, off the same ISY Portal. Having both, Alexa typically gets used for HA and GH gets used for movie actor names and ages etc... Occasionally either get used for weather. GH may be better at some geography stuff. This 'better' balance changes every month.

Simple answer...Yes! ...and yes that is evil but I hear ya'! I have both but prefer Alexa over GH. Both are easy to set up with the ISY Portal. A vocal to Alexa bridge software in the ISY Portal allows multiple different ways of saying things and operates ISY programs, variables, devices, scenes or Network Resources.

I would likely use a OnOff plug-in module and a separate 'class 2' - 24Vac transformer or find a small plug-in 24Vac adapter wallwart. They do exist as I just found a surplus one for my water Iron Filter tank.

Make the return signal set a variable and run a program to turn the light on. When the Insteon SwitcLinc sends an Off signal run a program with a Repeat While $sVariable = 0 loop to make the off signal wait to be sent out until the On is acknowledged.

Alexa routines allow the user to set these up very easily. Wife likes this one! Alexa, Alexa, on the wall, who is the fariest of them all? .....hmmmmm... according to google....far, far away in a little town called xxxxxx , at the top of a hill, there is a woman named yyyyyyyy!

Alexa skills have been using the syntax Alexa. Set XXX bulb to Red or Alexa, Turn on XXX bulb to Red. The first syntax is more successful. Percentages levels can prefix or follow the colour setting command but I haven't found a way to compound the parameters into one sentence. We gave a DLink RGBW bulb and an Echo Dot to my grandson (3 years old) , Christmas 2017 for his bedroom. Then we gave the sister in law the same DLink RGBW bulb to use with her GHs May 2018. Both systems work well using their plug-ins. ISY Portal should be able to implement this using the same vocals but integer values would need to be substituted for each of the colours.

All systems are a mistake as well as the answer depending on how hard you work them and/or understand them. Usually the basics take a little time to install while the fancy stuff can eat your life. With ISY there is enough help here and canned routines to make your life a lot easier. Many of us have gone insane from excessive programmin and we apologize logically. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

All except Scott. He's not from 'round here. We like to argue on video chat cause the insults seem more threatening face to face being at different ends of the continent from each other. I given him 'till sundown to get out of Insteon country. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

All fixed here!! Thank you very much!!!

Wait! I can see how this popcorn effect could happen. I doubt the Insteon delay of hops are being seen though, given the usage of any ramp on rate.. Having said that, most can see the speed of light delay on a long street full of street lights that all turn on with the same circuit. If a scene uses a ramp on rate,with different LED bulb brands and LED lights trips have different power supplies and different lux linearity curves. I have a fine example in my dining room chandelier. One of the five Cree bulbs went bad and I returned it to HD (The Borg), only to have a newer style Cree bulb handed to me as a replacement. At 100% all bubs look the same but anything below 60% that bulbs is much brighter than the other four. (lesson there? Always buy an extra bulb and mark the spare for multiple bulbs visible from each other) Now apply this to a slow and long ramping up voltage coming from various Insteon dimmers. They may all put out the same average voltage, at the same time, but the difference in bulb linearities may make them look like the popcorn effect. @ScottmichaeljAs an experiment I would be interested to have you set all the devices involved (cheap popcorn bulbs you bought ) set to fast On, and document if the effect goes away, or is reduced, or changes in any way. I assume you have various brands of bulbs in your "popcorn" scene. Can you describe this in more detail. I find this interesting and it would be nice to know for future reference and reduction or elimination of the effect.

Insteon has a Scene style operation in it's protocol. With Insteon Scene protocol commands, all Insteon devices involved get operated at the same time. There should be no individual responses other than protocol delays but I doubt you can see that. When I operate 30 Insteon devices at the same time in a scene and then turn them off again I see no delays. If there were delays cycling them this fast some would get behind or not operate.

After more than a dozen deleting and recreating ISY account linking. syncing and unsyncing, over a year of trying, I finally gave up and haven't used GH for many months until trying again, this week. Last time I even deleted my google account and started a new one. No help here, or there, has resolved this reported error. Getting the permission error doesn't seem to affect the operation AFAICT. Thanks

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My GH upload from ISY portal always indicates failed, (no permission) since after the first few months of creation. GH support has told me several times they have never heard of ISY. See the ISY administrator. It aways get the data though, regardless. I upload about 40-50 devices.

I don't believe the background for this is understood by many. Insteon is not just a dual-band mesh network, it is a dual-band simultaneously repeating mesh network. This means, when you send a signal....all your Insteon devices repeat that message simultaneously like a super-powered transmitter. Any noise can easily be drowned out by this Insteon techique. I believe Insteon to be the only protocol to do this. It requires the usage of the AC powerline signal to synchronise all devices. Radio frequency only devices (like Zwave and UPB) cannot perform this feature as they cannot synchronise easily. Of course this can make Insteon a little slower than some other protocols.

I am not sure how long this has been happening as I typically would run ISY Portal on RPi Chromium or my Mobile Samsung browser. If I sign onto ISY Portal and select ISY Web Access in the pulldown menu, any further screens, like Variables, Programs, etc., load in a new window, which cannot be expanded to full window, and scroll bars are missing. I cannot scroll the variable, program, etc. list down using the mouse control. The scroll bar appears shortly and then disappears again so that no access to lower items on any page are accessible. However, if I go to ISY Web Access immediately from the ISY Portal security login page, the ISY Web Access window loads in the same window page and all mouse operations still function as before. This gives full access to variable, programs and elements on whatever page is selected to view.

Decent Zwave is very new yet. Time will tell. I have considered some Zwave migration but I have never had a problem with an Insteon device that connects to AC yet. Battery devices? A few but most were DOA. Wait! Not completely true I have an iRLinc that had it's iR wired backwards and has never worked with ISY. Would have cost me more to return to SH than it's worth. At least ISY has diversified to support those two and more. My Ethernet devices are starting to take over anyway. I bought another 10 bulbs to add to my 14 previous units. You can't beat the $10-$14 CAD price. The MiLights and Philips Hue garbage may go out due to Hubs required.

I think you will find I didn't post any of those gross exaggerations to support your arguments. We don't know what people have done with their PLMs inside closed closets and unvented cabinets.

My PLM is four years old now and never been a problem yet either. On a sale, i nervously bought another PLM which I put into service for almost a year now but after figuring some GDO might have been my new PLM acting defectively, I switched it back a few months ago. Noise electrical environments can weaken PS filter components. Weak PS components are reported to be/were a common problem. A noisy electrical environment can accelerate any PLM failure as will extreme temperatures, liquid immersion, or physical shock.

I use Insteon MSes and lights in many rooms. To help resolve your issue (middle of the night) ISY has a solution to be able to dimm the lamp levels in the scene. I use these twice per day so that lights don;t blind you at nights when you trigger them and yet still produce 100W equiv. during the day when you want the brilliance.

Its OK when you miss something, just not when Alexa does Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk