larryllix

I think Paypal was in a bit of a transition. A direct deposit to bank accounts has shown up with proper verification methods. Also an option to spend the cash balance right from Paypal has appeared very obscurely now. At that time the only option was to give PayPal my bank card password for full access to all my accounts and credit card accounts. They promised not to keep my password though. ☹️ ?

I have another T7900 but it I defective in two ways. The outdoor, wired, sensor input is defective, as well as the touch screen needs to be pushed and held firmly for a full second, every touch. Great temperature probe or timer though. LOL

My deck lights alternate Green and Red bulbs for Christmas time, and the same bulbs become violet and orange for the next few weeks, multi-coloured for Easter. Surprisingly enough we sometimes decorate our room with multicoloured lights for watching movies at night. It is very soothing. Even good televisions change their white tones late a night to avoid disrupting circadian rhythm sleep cycles. We have strip lights over our bedhead that are set up to do any of the seven major colours. Deep red lighting doesn't interfere with falling asleep and they shut themselves off later. One lamp flashes red while a garage door is open. Different colours indicate which door is open. Two lights on each side of the TV flash green a midnight if we are home, as a reminder to go to bed. None of this is Insteon. It is for old people that want all the program hassles, writing code and doing fancy things. That means we have to be able to read and write.

Here is some of the code I wrote to receive NR commands. You will have to dig through it to make it work from yourself. I left the ISY heartbeat code in in case you want to know it it out there in your LAN cloud working from ISY #!/usr/bin/Python-3.5.1 NRbridge.py #Program to pass ISY Network Resource calls to MagicHome LED controller drivers #by larryllix (UDI forum), June 29, 2019 # Format Network resource as 'ledenet'/command/bulb/colour/RGBlevel/Wlevel/speed/effect # Device type ='LEDenet' or 'MiLight' # command = 'on', 'off', 'set', 'effect', 'keepalive' # bulb = 0, 1 - n. 0 = all bulbs on controller # colour = 0-255, 0=Red, 85=Green, 170=Blue # RGBlevel = 0-100% brightness of the RGB LEDs # Wlevel = 0-100% brightness of the white LEDs # speed = used for multi-bulb effects # effect = 0-? native bulb effects or 23-37 for multi-bulb animations from http.server import BaseHTTPRequestHandler, HTTPServer import urllib.request import base64 import time from magichome import magichome # Server (this CPU) IP address server_IP = '192.168.0.175' server_port = 8000 # ISY parameters to be defined by user ISY_username = 'admin' ISY_password = 'password' ISY_IP = '192.168.0.161' # Heartbeat into ISY variable ISY_HBpage = 2 # 1=Integer, 2=State ISY_HBaddr = 83 # ISY heartbeat variable ISY_HBperiod = 90 # In seconds. toggles ISY flag variable ISY_HBlast_sent = 0.0 # Refresh bulb statuses and socket keepAlive lastCheckRefeshTime = 0.0 # time of last refresh refreshCheckPeriod = 10.0 # seconds between scans verbose = True # Set verbose = False to shut off reporting of details of ISY sends def report(result): if verbose: print(time.strftime("%H:%M:%S", time.localtime(time.time())), result) return # HTTPRequestHandler class class myHTTPServer_RequestHandler(BaseHTTPRequestHandler): def do_GET(self): global last_time global ledenet_passed, ledenet_passed_valid global bulbStatusList words = self.requestline.split() passed = words[1].split("/",20) if len(passed) > 3: self.send_response_only(200,'NRbridge received OK') # send ACK response self.end_headers() time.sleep(0.001) # allow I/O time slice type = str(passed[1]).strip().lower() ####### ### --------------------code to run bash command here---------------------- ############################# else: # wasn't a GET self.send_error(400, 'NRbridge: bad Get format') # send NAK response self.end_headers() time.sleep(0.001) # allow I/O time slice report("NRbridge: ISY GET:format error! ***") return # Write ISY handshake variable via REST i/f def write_ISY(data): ISY_rest = "/rest/vars/set/%s/%s/%s" % (ISY_HBpage, ISY_HBaddr, data) get_url = urllib.request.Request('http://' + ISY_IP + ISY_rest) #format the URL ISY_authorise = base64.b64encode((ISY_username+":"+ISY_password).encode('utf-8')) #encode it get_url.add_header("Authorization", 'Basic %s' % ISY_authorise.decode('utf-8')) try: r = urllib.request.urlopen(get_url) time.sleep(0.001) # allow I/O time slice returned = r.read() r.close() time.sleep(0.001) # allow I/O time slice except: report("NRBridge: ISY heartbeat send failed!***") return #------------------------------------- # Get server setup try: httpd = HTTPServer((server_IP, server_port), myHTTPServer_RequestHandler) httpd.socket.settimeout(0.8) except: print('') report("NRbridge: Not started! May already be running * * * * * *") exit() print('') report('NRbridge: started. . .') heartbeat = 0 # Get list of sockets and status of all bulbs bulbStatusList = [] # bulb data message, bulbStatusList = magichome(['refresh'], bulbStatusList) report(message) # Main loop while(True): # Check for incoming command httpd.handle_request() # ISY heartbeat signal if time.time() >= ISY_HBlast_sent + ISY_HBperiod: if heartbeat != 1: heartbeat = 1 else: heartbeat = -1 write_ISY(heartbeat) ISY_HBlast_sent = time.time() # Update bulb statuses and refresh sockets if time.time() >= lastCheckRefeshTime + refreshCheckPeriod: lastCheckRefeshTime = time.time() message, bulbStatusList = magichome(['refresh'], bulbStatusList) #report(message)

The coloured lights would look really cool beside your green phosphor monitor.

Read my post. I bought WiFi lightbulbs because I have 25 of that brand plus another ten WiFi based RGBWW strips and I don't want the ten different hubs to use them. Other brands could do the job with less hubs but I don't have $2000 for just those Hue or LIFX bulbs, and then I have to buy hubs and find a place to keep them all. Insteon does not have RGBWW lighting devices or support and the masses does not want Insteon that isn't supported by anybody else. Insteon is old man technology.

Sure. I have 25 Smart WiFi bulbs now,. If they were still MiLight I would have: an ISY994 a RPi, for PolyGlot 7x MiLight Hubs with USB PSUs, for 28 units max, a Philips Hue hub, and still require a router or two. I would need a new home to increase my receptacle count. I am not just a remote control freak, so I may have done it if necessary, but Remote Control people would just walk away. They can buy WiFi receptacles, RGBWW bulbs, in several brands now, Alexa units, and Google Home voice controls in Walmart for about half the price per unit and not even buy a Hub. Even the Philips wall switch with full colour control was in Walmart for under $30 CAD, about $21 USD, in Walmart. ...and most of these devices are being advertised on TV at least once per hour and most channels. Insteon cannot be found in a single store walk-in in Canada, now. HA has become a niche market that is dwindling. https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/philips-hue-wireless-dimmer-switch/6000197973354

If you are familiar with python3 I posted script to receive Get" calls about a year back on this forum.

For remote access applications the ecobee has password protection as well a user set limits for setpoints. I had a runaway ISY program ramp mine to the bottom of the setting range once so the limits can be good protection against hacking and yourself.

I bought two hubs, originally. Once I discovered ISY and that Hubs were not HA devices, I packed both up and returned one, gave the other to my non-HA son. Once Alexa came out he went full steam with Remote Control but could never make the old Hub work with Alexa. He replaced it with the newer Hub and it works fine for the few Insteon devices I gifted him years ago. The original Hub was a waste of money and never used, even for Remote Control.

After trying many different brands in my last two homes, I found ecobee to be the best for options, ease of usage and good stability. In my home I have an extremely slow response to heating/cooling changes so the "Follow Me" and automatic "Home/Away" feature is useless. The remote sensors are nice but only have certain applications. eg. I have a sensor in my bedroom but we like the room cool to sleep in and the house starts setting back in mid afternoon, but is still warm at midnight. We open the window after supper and close the door, not to cool the house down. The bedroom sensor sees this cool temperature and tries to heat the whole house up, all night, overheating the rest of the space and wasting energy. This method works well in the dead of winter or AC in summer but not in spring/fall for us. YMMV.

Are those Hub versions?

Awesome! They gave some background and admitted they aren't perfect, like real human beings. That is a big change in attitude, There is hope! Is this only for Hub support?

I am hopeful Insteon will survive also, but every one of your links indicates poor ability to thrive. They have reported repeatedly lack of profits by selling off portions of the company for large chunks of money. That's a huge indicator they haven't managed well. The whole IoT is so **yawn** now. Even thermostat companies have done it. Announcing an MS, in this day and age, is like announcing a new car with an FM radio in it, right from the factory. They haven't shown an technology progress for years. Insteon's latest huge announcement was they are going to create an app. HA people find this really out of date by about 15 years, and the Remote Control crowd just isn't interested in lack of compatibility companies trying to isolate their users from the rest of the market. Complete marketing failure. We hear every few years Insteon is going to be announcing a big deal. We are still waiting. I really fear that announcement will be a new name or bankruptcy. I will likely be a dedicated Insteon user and supporter until the end. I really hope I don't see it. I still think they have the best protocol but the majority (Remote control app crowd) don't care.

Do it again and compare the sizes? IIRC you can make a copy of the file. Rename it to XXXXXX.zip, Unzip it and then examine the contents. I forget what is in it but I think you will find programs. Maybe open a ticket with UDI and let them snoop into you ISY and see if it still has a pumping heart.

Unfortunately our argument about two types of users, makes it even more likely Insteon could bite the dust. Before the remote control crowd became a division, the select few of us were all lumped into one basket, called HA. Many of us turned to Insteon as one of the best working systems out there. Some stayed with X10, some entered brave new worlds, where no man has gone before. Now with much of the crowd just wanting "Plug'n Pray" it pulls more of the crowd (percentage wise) away from the niche market that wants a smart control centre to do logic and cooler things. We already hear the occasional cry here about ISY being too complicated and antiquated with it's complicated programming techniques. Geeesh, even Win 10 went back to the old 80's Dos ascii graphics look with it's all black and white, square cornered boxes again. How simple can a programmable box system get where you can never get a syntax error, or a device that isn't capable of what you attempted? Obviously some have never worked in any programming environment, and tried to debug a complex system. Alas! They don't want complex systems. A simple off delay timer is the extend of their thinking past remote control. How does a timer improve the cool look of an app? (sarc). I finalise this rant with a product I just saw in Staples today. A wall switch which appeared to control the Hue coloured (US='colored') bulbs for about $40 CAD!. Cheap enough but the part that made me chuckle, with this thread going on, in big letters, was: "WORKS RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX"

Sorry. I am away from my backups right now so can't comment on the size. Somebody else jump in here??

Yes, as @Teken posted years ago, a dumb bulb can never be dimmed down below about 10%, but a smart bulb, incl. the four or five brands I have tried, can dim down to 1% without even a flicker as they have an unlimited power supply at all times.

Your ISY IP. Java has it's own firewall. The admin console is running under java. Java sees this program/virus trying to write data to a file and tries to stop it. The permissions table tells java to allow things from that IP address inside your computer.

Hey SG! Try entering your java control panel (Windows | Control Panel | java | Permission tab) and re-entering your ISY IP address in the permission table. Your update may have clobbered it.

One thing a few of us have discovered is not to use the automatic channel selection in your router. They never seem work to avoid other users. I changed my channel a few months back only to find my neighbour automatically changed his and clobbered my signal again. I had my signal strength turned way down to cool my router down and it worked very well until the neighbour had more signal strength, in my home, than my router. This is when I figured out how the automatic channel selection works. If and when your router reboots, it looks for a no signal channel 0-16, and selects the one with the least signal found on it. If you do not have your router on a routine cycle to reboot, the channel will never change. Routers all come set to channel 1,6, or 11 but can be user set to any channel desired. The four channel bandwidth gives much higher data speeds but single channel modes can still be selected with much lower bandwidth. See the screenshot I posted above.

Agreed. Here is a map of our uncrowded neighbourhood. Notice how routers are using five channel bandwidth to achieve the almost 1 Gbps?

I did think that way but none of the WiFi HA devices stream video and their usage is extremely short burst of a few packets. Mind you I have found with http bulb protocols you have to keep them awake to get a response in less than 2-3 seconds, so I have to hit them all every 45 seconds or so. That is what 2.4GHz WiFi is for, anyway....the slow stuff.

The 5G I was referring to will be a home router, not the mobile cell providers. Our cell providers in Ontario, Canada are dumping 3G. Lucky Mobile is offering 3G (choked) speeds on 4G starting at $10 per month with their SIM cards in the dollar stores.

5G When you read up on the specs, IMHO it will be coming to a home near you and WiFi will disappear eventually, but that doesn't help anybody now.