paulbates

Hi John Sounds like the PLM is either in a confused state, or possibly dead. Did you try unplugging the PLM, and ISY; plugging the PLM back in, waiting 10 seconds, and then start the ISY? Give that a try if you didn't. If it comes up in safe mode again, a factory reset of the PLM and a restore PLM would be the next thing to try, observing the restart sequence listed above. Paul

Unfortunately there is no "one size fits all answer". You may have some locations with single band devices where the access points are helping to over come line noise sources or signal suckers. Unfortunately there are no views in the ISY that shows device to PLM performance metrics, to measure the change made by unplugging the access points. I would try removing them, one at a time, and evaluate what happens. Here is an example of what I did: I used to have 2 access points and now I'm down to one. I unplugged them, one at a time and gave it a week or 2 for observation. For 1 of the 2 access points, I noticed no difference and got not complaints from the family. So its retired. However, for the other one in my garage, one of 2 iolincs would occasionally throw a message for the ISY 3am device query when the access point was removed. While I never had actual performance problems with the programs that the iolinc supported, I decided to leave that access point in place. Paul

The program is initiated based on a start condition.. but has not stop condition. There is about 24 hours of elapsed time in the statements in the program, and it doesn't know to stop at midnight Saturday and keeps running through Sunday. Short explanation, its working as designed. You can put from/to in the program's 'If', but the problem with that is that will affect the operation of the program on Friday night. My suggestion is a second program that runs at 11:59PM Saturday night that stops the first program in its tracks, and does any clean up to the lights you might want to do at that time Stop Bathrooms - If On Sat Time is 11:59:00PM Then Stop program 'Bathrooms' Set Scene 'Bathrooms / Bathrooms-???%' On Paul

Only my most recent keypadlinc, at FW v.43, has the option, name 'LED on TX'. As stu states, it causes the set button to blink to traffic when enabled. My older keypads, with lower FW versions, do not have the option. If your kepad has this feature, there will be an "Options" button in the bottom panel when you select it under Main in the admin console. After eliminating the LED lights as the problem, you could try a reset. Keypads can get flaky with age/use. Periodically I've had to factory reset them and then "restore device". You could try that, it doesn't take long. Paul

It somehow got set in the other mode. 5 button is another way to refer to a 6, since in a 6 button, top is on, bottom is off. You can use this procedure to change it to 8 button mode. 1) Delete the keypad from the ISY. 2) Gently pull the Set button out as far as it will go 3) Wait 10 seconds 4) While simultaneously holding the On/Off (upper left-most) A button and the H button, carefully press the Set button back in flush with the trim frame 5) Once the Set button is pushed in, continue holding the On/Off button and H buttons for 3 seconds, and then release KeypadLinc will (Beep) KeypadLinc is now in 8 Button Mode 6) Re-add the keypad to your ISY Paul

You can also try recreating the scene and "restore device" in the admin console on the offending switch. I mis-read your original post as an "off" only problem Paul

It could be noise, and low voltage lighting transformers are culprits I've had trouble with. One of the symptoms is it "won't turn off". Turning it on powers the transformer that then produces line noise that overpowers additional insteon signals. Not sure if you're using outlelincs, I've found them to be more sensitive to transformer noise that switches/inlinelincs The reason it works with direct calls and not a scene is that scenes don't provide follow-up verification messages, where direct calls do. In those cases the signal conditions are marginal and will sometimes work. There are a couple of approaches Send the off command multiple times with a couple second pause in between (not a fan of this one, but it can work) Put a filterlinc between the offending transformer and switch/outletlinc I used the filterlinc method, until last week when I replaced all of my yard lights with low voltage LED. The new transformers didn't create the noise problem. Paul

When you say remote, you mean access within your house's local network, correct? When you launch the admin console from a computer, the finder should come up, and the IP address associated with the ISY should appear briefly, if not you can look under configuration. Can you try using that IP address for web, etc?

Here's the thing... if you did not factory reset, and everything worked fine.. great. If it does not work fine, your left to wonder what is really wrong... especially device related problems. Fully agree with Teken Each approach has its advantages and limitations... it is easy to use the insteon app to remote control things through the hub. That can be done through the portal and requires apps like James Peterson's new Agave. Those things cost money, hub app and access are free If the amazon echo is something that would work for your requirements,... the echo/isy portal service/isy would probably be the best compromise Paul

Mark The video shows the PLM links table, and is queried from the PLM. I wanted to see what the contents of the ISY Links table, which is the db of links the ISY keeps based on the devices you add to it. Its used to build the PLM links table that the insteon network uses. One of your options is doing a restore PLM from that db, but before asking you to try it, given the size of your network, I wondered what the master db in the ISY looks like. It doesn't make sense that everything seems to be working both ISY to Insteon device, and Insteon device to ISY, with the table that small. Seeing what the ISY has would be a helpful next step PAul

Mark What's the report from the 'show ISY links' look like? Paul

Mark- I've never run it with event viewer, but I don't think that should be a problem. Are all insteon devices working, to the best of your knowledge, if you issue a command to a sampling of devices from the admin console, they all respond as expected? If you go to those devices, and turn them on and off, the admin console is updated? If yes, then, I would try unplugging the ISY and and PLM. Plugin the plm, wait 10 seconds, then the ISY, and try the 'Show PLM Links Table' again If no, then its potentially more difficult.. let's discuss Paul

Here are 2 other things to try Put the device in linking mode and use the 'Start linking' method of adding the device to the ISY. I've had a couple of stubborn devices that would only add that way. No idea why, but it worked Try a factory reset of the device (as opposed to air-gapping) and try adding again. Paul

Another factor, outside of load matching, is the fact that the on/off versions make a definitive 'click' when the A/On button is turned on or off. I have my outside floodlights all responding to A. When the MS activates the outside lights, they all click- even though none of the keypads are actually controlling the load. I've turned that into a positive, its a way to know that something is moving around in an area that's not directly visible. The on/offs were the earliest dualband keypads available, that's why i initially got them But some may not like it. If the switches are near a table, and people are sitting there, it will get noticed. Not as bad as the X10 stuff was, but noticeable. Dimmers will be completely silent. Paul

Mark I have a couple of big scenes that turn many lights on and off, as well as a few smaller ones in groups as you describe. I don't add devices often enough that the time it takes to wait to add to the big scene really matter. I also have some smaller groups to control specific things, eg, 1 scene to turn on 4 outletlincs associated with yard and holiday lights. I also have a number of lights and keypad keys connected to a "Goodnight" scene. That's handy, and spouse approved! I keep the big scenes as I prefer to push as much work as practical to the Insteon network, and prefer to see all outside lights and lamps go on and off together. If you want to know where you are with number of links, run Tools/Diagnotics/Show PLM links table. Click Start, let it run till it quits scrolling. You can hit the count button to get the link count to compare (Its one more than the number of links on the list because the list starts with 0). I think the published link count for the 2314PLM is 1000 links possible, probably 800 is a reasonable operational high water mark. Paul

That's correct. I do the same with Furnace/Air/humidify/fan and sprinkler control & reporting. I've only used the mini remote for on/off. Another way is us "Control" and catch it in the act. You probably won't see some of these, like 'Fade' or 'Fast on' normally. You don't have to code for the ones that you don't use. Here are the possibilities: Paul

Wow. I've had mine for 2 years. It came charged and I charged it once this spring. I had an X10 key chain remote I replaced it with, I didn't change its battery that frequently either. Paul

That's an interesting idea! However 5000 seems like a lot. If you averaged 4 presses a day, that would be 1250 days or 3.5 years. Mine doesn't make it over a year. The manual says 9 - 12 months per charge. Maybe start with 1000 and then see how long the charge takes. The manual says the charge should take an hour.. so use that as a factor to increase or decrease the count. e.g.. if it takes the full hour, lower the count and give it some room. If it takes half an hour, up it to 2500. I would leave extra room so you're definitely charging before it runs out. Maybe its pressed a lot more than 4 times a day.. measure that and adjust the program accordingly. Also, remember to use the "init to" function in your program after incrementing the variable you're counting with. Otherwise, the ISY will lose its memory of the count if you reboot or have a power outage Paul

Hi- Unfortunately that product does not provide battery alerts. You have to keep track on a calendar and keep it charged regularly. I have one in our bed room for my wife to use for the attic fan, its the same thing. I charge it in the spring and it lasts the year. I know its "old school", but I have a spreadsheet for battery powered HA items and charge/change them on a schedule and not wait for an indicator to come on, Charging the remote is on that list. I've had fewer problems with Insteon battery powered devices approaching it that way. Paul

In Insteon, when 2 or more devices are controlling each other, a scene has been created. You are actually creating and using scenes when you use the instructions that come in the box with the devices to link them. That manual process creates references between of participants you linked to use as part of the scene. This is how insteon knows how to coordinate activity between multiple devices. However, the ISY was not part of that manual link creation process using the out of the box instructions, and does not know to respond / acknowledge the new scene you created via manual linking. To say it another way, its working as designed. Your choices are: Continue to manually create scenes with the individual devices using the out of the box instructions that came with the devices and have the ISY continue to not know about it and manually query to discover state. ...or.. Remove the manually created scenes and create them with the ISY. The switches will respond to the remote just like they do now. The only difference is that the ISY will be a participant in the scene and aware of the changes, which is what you want. It takes just moments to create the scene with the ISY. I find it easier to use the ISY than manually link.

Small world! Next week, it will be 25 years for me.

Hi Tom Each EZflora has 8 zones maximum, so yes 2 ezfloras are needed for your application. I wired mine into the existing rainbird controller with a length of sprinkler wire from a sprinkler supply store. That made it a little easier, no wiring changes to the existing system. So I don't have detailed instructions per se... but I wired zone 1 on the old controller to zone 1 on the ezflora with the new length of sprinkler wire, zone 2 to zone 2, etc. Then write programs. Basic programs to run the system are fairly easy: turn a zone on... and wait xx minutes... It gets a little more complicated if your system has a pump or master valve, do you know if that's the case? If you have either one of these, its a little more complicated... I'll wait to see if you report back that you have either one of those to explain how to deal with that further. Paul

As Lee pointed out, it could be line noise closer to the outletlinc, or something wrong with the outletlinc iteslf You could try a factory reset, followed by a restore device. If that doesn't fix it, try the event trace. Paul

My Menard's has the keypads in stock... its a check their stock, driveby and fix in a day if you have one nearby. If you include the cost of shipping from SH, its usually a little cheaper that way too. If they have 6 vs 8, its any easy swap of the keys and reprogramming of the keypad.

Are there electronics like a TV or phone chargers plugged into the outletlinc? If you are using the outletlinc to control electronics, you'll most likely need a filterlinc plugged in between the outlet and devices. I've found outletlincs to be more sensitive to noise from loads than other insteon devices. A way to validate this theory is to unplug the load from the outletlinc and then retry the program / ISY control. Paul