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Eric It does sound dead. Unplugging the ISY could depend... do you have programs that use the network or other modules with no insteon? You may want to consider a backup PLM. I have had my surprises with PLMs as well Paul

Eric, sorry to hear this. It does sound like it. The refresh won't work if the PLM can't be communicated with. I would however, try a factory reset of the PLM (steps below), and then attach and start the the ISY, and then Restore Modem, ... (Do not use Delete Modem) To reset PowerLinc Modem to its original factory settings, unplug from wall outlet and wait 10 seconds. Press and hold Set button; while continuing to press and hold, plug back in. A long beep will sound; continue holding Set button until beep stops, then release. After several seconds, status LED will turn on to indicate reset is complete Good luck! Paul

Hi Mike- You mentioned that your DMS settings are correct... can you describe how your ISY network configuration is set up? DHCP? UPNP? Paul

+1 for Teken's comment. I moved from another solution to the ISY, and can say your life will be much easier if you start from scratch. It will give you a chance to use the linking features of the ISY, which are powerful. I had move over 40 devices, a few should not take much time. I recommend a factory reset the devices before you add them to the ISY, this will ensure that that your hub's link is removed, which is important. Paul

I've had my eye on this post. I've had the harmony for a few years and thinking about trying this. It uses an application called restful harmony, and that needs to run on a server type box. The software architecture of the harmony requires an authentication token to communicate with it, and the ISY Network module does not support that... restful harmony fills that gap. There also appears to be ITTT support for the harmony, but haven't looked at that yet... its another option. Paul

If the keypad is not controlling the load and just controlling a scene, yes it will work fine. If the the keypad linc is actually controlling the load and: its a 6 button keypad... Yes, the on and off buttons will control the load and be joined in a scene with the other icon switch its an 8 button keypad - Yes, but the load needs to be connected to button A Paul

I think Stu is right, didn't think about "as motion is sensed". I use this on mine. I have a number of links in the MS, and its outside all year. I change batteries at the beginning of fall and late in the spring. Paul

Chuck I see what you're saying. This method has worked fairly well for an outside driveway floodlights. Here are 2 things to try with the MS - Up the wait time in the program a little, 15 seconds at a time and see if that helps. - If changing the wait didn't help, reset the MS. I know my MSs get fussy if I've been doing a lot of setting changes, or if the battery goes low. I would try a factory reset, and then restore device (and make sure the battery is good) Paul

Joe CIrcling back to the beginning of the thread, the experiments for getting this to work have unfortunately failed, and possible a configuration file got corrupted in trying. If clearing all three options of clearing the Java cache and reinstalling the app doesn't restore the original behavior, I would submit a ticket to UDI to get things back to the original state. Paul

Ideally the ISY should show that node as on for low battery, however if you rebooted your ISY, it may show off. I wouldn't necessarily trust it. I change my battery proactively twice a year, early fall and late spring, to avoid getting to this situation. I also have a number of low voltage lighting transformers. Those create line noise, as can LEDs. The difference is that they should always go on, but once turned on the noise flooded the switches ability to respond further, sometimes even with dual band devices. (If some low voltage lights and LEDs were already on when the MS triggers, that complicates this explanation) Since it takes several MS senses to trigger On, I would first explore the path Lee suggested, replacing the battery and and factory resetting it, put it in linking mode and restoring it. Before the biannual battery changes, my MS used to need this procedure from time to time. Paul

Joe Yes, sorry.. The finder will find any running ISYs, and that's finder doing its job(with unique IP addresses, we recently learned in this thread). And that's also what would show up if you plugged in a new ISY. You can add and delete additional references to the ISY, but the finder will display what it finds on the network. The ISY swap is not an issue. Paul

Joe I don't see this being a problem, as the dead ISY will be off of the network. I just deleted my ISY from the ISY finder and added it back in. If you had an ISY die, delete it from the finder list and add the new one. I recently swapped my router. My ISY is statically addressed, and it came back as static and everything worked once I added all of my other assigned devices in the DCHP mapping table. Paul

Joe- Since the UUID is the MAC, probably yes. Not sure how the ISY uses either or MAC and IP for hailing vs communicating. Decisions about these two fields is usually left to the router, and router functions like DHCP, CTF and L2 forwarding. To DennisC's other point, keep both ISYs in their working locations and have 2 entries in the finder; use the local LAN NAT IP for ISY #1, and the fully qualified DNS name and port for ISY#2 and access in place from location #1. Your slowest uplink speed on either side will be the constraint. Paul

Joe- Yeh wasn't sure. Like DennisC, I've had 2 addresses in mine before for the same ISY... one for when locally connected via LAN, and one for external WAN connection through port redirection. I got rid of the external address and port redirection when I started using the portal. Wasn't sure if the finder would get confused by the same IP with 2 MACs Paul

Joe Per post #3, one recommendation was to try and create a second entry in the ISY Finder. - Start the admin console but cancel instead of logging in - Click on the ISY finder to bring it to the foreground - Shut down ISY #1, leave the ISY finder running - Attach ISY #2 to the network and start it - Use the finder to Add a new ISY: HTTP://ISY - Connect and login to it Paul

FWIW, I have 2 sets of outside lights controlled by a MS. Its also linked to 3 keypad keys on 3 keypads to turn on the lights, or show that the MS did turn them on. The MS uses "on only" and a program turns it off after a wait. The keys always turned everything on and off, and the program always turned things off. However, after some period of having it, I began having intermittent firing of the 2 outside light switches from the MS, after enough movement the would both come on. Assumed it was the MS, tried batteries, etc. I solved this with a spare access point, trying it in a number of locations in the house between the MS and the panel where the PLM is. The last location worked for reasons that I can't explain, but it now fires correctly all the time. If you have a spare access point or dual band module, this might be worth a try. Paul

Joe If you use 4a or b from the directions, its a one time download of the admin.jnlp java executable to your computer. After it installs, it will add a blue admin icon with a globe and a house. That java app is then on your local system. Normal networking applies. If you put a local NAT address in the isy finder, no it won't go to the internet. If you use a NAT address`and your ISY is across the internet, it will. If you look at the ISY Portal, that may be a product that can help you securely, as well as not having to move the ISY to modify it or use a VPN. Paul

Joe If you download the admin java app to your computer, and run it locally, the ISY finder starts automatically, its a smaller window that pops to the top. It uses UPNP to find your ISY, if you have that activated. If you go back to the page in Current Releases, Beta and Bugs for your particular release, there will be a link to download the admin console under step 4. a) Paul

Joe- I agree with Teken that is an unusual way to do this and "against the grain" of how ISY's are managed. The UUID is the same as the Ethernet Mac address, which is also used to locate the ISY. The UUID is unique to a particular device and explains why you are seeing this behavior... ISY #2 has a different MAC address than ISY #1 and the ISY finder is confused. I haven't tried this, but what will probably work is to create a separate entry in the ISY finder, after connecting ISY #2. Since I've never done this, I don't know that the finder will allow two entries for the same local IP address, and have no way to know how it will work. You would then pick the correct ISY off of the ISY finder on the PC. Suggested alternative: If you are trying to keep 2 homogenous runtime network environments for the ISYs to run in, I would suggest using router assigned DHCP, and having the router assign the ip address to the ISY on each local network. The address could be the same ip when running them separately, but supply 2 different addresses where locally on the same LAN. That will give you the same ip address in each separate network. Network # 1 (Where #1 is always used, and #2 is sometimes used too) ISY #1 192.168.0.10 ISY #2 192.168.0.11 (when its located together with #1) Network #2 ISY #2 192.168.0.10 (when its on its own network) Paul

For that much, I would consider an HVAC supplier / contractor, especially if you can present yourself as a contractor.

If things are happening faster than I thought, I'll call it a good day . I might put that post under the tree this year The portal will give me a clean way to access my had pages from my heavily locked down corporate laptop, as well as my tablet, while travelling. I know that the UDI team and Benoit work very hard in the face of multiple responsibilities and a rapidly shifting technical landscape.

Great news Kman, I missed it! Paul

Jon I made an inquiry about HAD availability via the portal a while back and Michel indicated it was added to the list, but I don't think its been added yet. EDIT: Kman corrected me, its available now. Paul

Hey Teken I don't know how to do it via email. However you could use REST calls to set a variable. It does require an initial login, I think. The network module or email could be used to send a message back out Paul

No Problem, we all started at some point For 4.x or 5.x firmwares, you'll need the Network Module to see the web page option to see the ISY's folders and files. I may not be clear on what you mean by "secure". If you access the ISY default pages or HAD from another system, it will challenge you for the admin account and pw. The ISY file system does not have ACL capabilities that I have seen. You could do that if you looked for the directions for hosting the pages on your own server Paul