Everything posted by MrBill
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HVAC Program
so the programs are working? Or he refilled it?
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is my new polisy dead?
Maybe you just got a bad out of box unit... even with the best manufacturing processes and quality control that can happen. that doesn't mean the entire product is garbage. UDI stood behind the product and gave you a refund. You would have a right to be the worked up if you lost money on the deal... YOU DIDN'T... UDI cheerfully refunded you-- something I've noted over the years is a routine practice at UDI for whatever reason.... they just refund... it's simple.
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is my new polisy dead?
I agree, I liked the first post...
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Just picked up another Polisy!
If you've been following along in Smarthome section of the forum you would know that Michel has submitted and offer for rights to produce PLM's and is in negotiations beyond that, but NDA prevents him from disclosing much. And yes UDI did design a super PLM, that never made it past prototypes because smarthome backed out of the deal.
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Outdoor Gate Sensors
I can tell you that in my experience 2421's are the worst of all the model for skipping heartbeats. Most of the time I just go test the sensor when a heartbeat misses, and it doesn't the next day.... if I get them two or three days in a row from the same sensor then either i remove the battery and reinsert it which will get the heartbeats going again,,, or if it's an older battery (day) and/or has high transmission counts.. then I'll just change the battery. It's never been stated, at least officially that I've come across, but my personal belief is that it's designed so that once heartbeats stop there's still enough battery left to send open/close transmissions for awhile. I also have an ISY program for each sensor, that I trigger manually from a Home Assistant Dashboard to reset the counters when the battery is changed: FrontDoor.reset - [ID 01A4][Parent 01B5] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Resource 'NotificationNS.DoorTrouble._resetCountersBegin' Wait 1 second Resource 'NotificationNS.DoorTrouble.FrontDoor' Wait 2 seconds $iDoor.FrontDoor.HBmissed = 0 $iDoor.FrontDoor.HBmissed Init To $iDoor.FrontDoor.HBmissed $iDoor.FrontDoor.BatteryDays = 1 $iDoor.FrontDoor.BatteryDays Init To $iDoor.FrontDoor.BatteryDays $iDoor.FrontDoor.TransCount = 1 $iDoor.FrontDoor.TransCount Init To $iDoor.FrontDoor.TransCount Wait 2 seconds Resource 'NotificationNS.DoorTrouble.FrontDoor' Wait 1 second Resource 'NotificationNS.DoorTrouble._resetCountersComplete' Run Program 'hb.FrontDoor' (Then Path) Else Resource 'NotificationNS.DoorTrouble.FrontDoor' The four notifications it send end up looking like this: (read from the bottom up) Sends 4 notifications, a start announcement, counters before the reset, counters that have been reset, and a complete announcement. The purpose is once or twice I've reset the wrong counter on accident-- this way I don't lose totals and can manually change the variables to put them back if i need to. In this case that sensor is a 2845 and sends low battery, that's why it was getting changed--given the day and transmission count I suspect that wasn't a fresh battery in the battery stash-- but the sensor did send low batt, so I changed it.
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Moving insteon PLM
This one https://smartenit.com/shop/plm-serial-cable/ there's also a method to buy an RJ45 to BD9 adapter off amazon and use it with the cable you do have. Costs less but requires configuring via pinouts in another thread.
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Moving insteon PLM
Just factory reset it per the instruntions in the 2413s manual... typical unplug, hold set button, plug in, wait for long beep to stop. You need the original cable that came with the PLM, not the cable that came with the ISY. One end has a DB9 serial connect, the other an 8Pin Ethernet style plug... The connection from 2413s to ISY is NOT eithernet... even tho Port A on a 994 might make you believe that.
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is my new polisy dead?
Both of my Polisy's worked right out of the box, not sure what happened with yours. Both have been updated since Day 1, the first was in the second batch that were shipped. I don't think Polisy is junk, sorry that you do.
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ISY & Java (Windows 11 64bit)
Java 8 (oracle) from https://www.java.com/en/ is the only officially supported java. While you've perhaps had good look running alternative Java's, the java runtime from https://www.java.com/en/ is the only version that UD support can/will support.
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Moving insteon PLM
Are you restoring and ISY backup on Polisy? Check out the first post of this thread:
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Open 2 admin panels same time
As @asbril said yes you can, just run Launcher again. You can't just right click in the existing finder window.
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Outdoor Gate Sensors
A couple of comments on heartbeats, with the style programing that you are using you should see a solid green folder in the program tree next to the program (assuming that you have "detailed" status icons turned on in the program tree: ) The solid green icon indicates that the THEN block is running, if the Icon isn't green then the program is not in that 25 hour wait state, which it should be 99.99999% of the time. Second, here is the heatbeat program I use for all insteon battery sensors: hb.FrontDoor - [ID 0066][Parent 0072] If 'Door Switches / Front Door / Front Door- Heartbeat' is switched On Or 'Door Switches / Front Door / Front Door- Heartbeat' is switched Off Then Wait 24 hours (wait 24 for 2845 Hidden door sensor, wait 25 for 2421 Surface Mount, or Water Detection) $iDoor.FrontDoor.HBmissed += 1 $iDoor.FrontDoor.HBmissed Init To $iDoor.FrontDoor.HBmissed Wait 2 seconds Resource 'NotificationNS.DoorTrouble.FrontDoor' Run Program 'hb.FrontDoor' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') It's similar to yours but doesn't set a state variable for another program to deal with. I do increment a counter because especially 2421's it's common for a missed heartbeat occasionally. NOTE especially, the last line which RUNS the then block again, if the heartbeat is missed. You're current program lacks a re-trigger or repeat. If the heart beat fails yours just stops until another heartbeat is received. (perhaps whatever program deals with $sNorthGate = 2 has a nag feature.) The resource called sends a notification thru the Notification node server that looks like this: (this particular 2421 has the most trouble with heartbeats, but it never misses an open/close in normal use or tests after a failed heartbeat). the program that counts transmissions is: FrontDoor - [ID 005B][Parent 0033] If 'Door Switches / Front Door' is switched On Or 'Door Switches / Front Door' is switched Off Or 'Door Switches / Front Door / Front Door- Heartbeat' is switched On Or 'Door Switches / Front Door / Front Door- Heartbeat' is switched Off Or 'Door Switches / Front Door / Front Door- Low Bat' is switched On Or 'Door Switches / Front Door / Front Door- Low Bat' is switched Off Then $iDoor.FrontDoor.TransCount += 1 $iDoor.FrontDoor.TransCount Init To $iDoor.FrontDoor.TransCount Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The battery counter is just +1 to each sensors integer variable at 12:12:12 am every morning. So for each sensor there are 3 integer variables: --- Don't have any input for your siren issue, I don't own one.
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Program help needed and switches not working
this isn’t really different that the hub, with the hub you also need to create a scene to link the switches. Since you’ve factory reset twice the links don’t exist. You need to create a scene. You need to add BOTH switches as CONTROLLERS (not Responders). Then either switch will work manually, and from the ISY or a program you control the scene.
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Program help needed and switches not working
And after you do as @Techman suggests then control the scene, not the switch.
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New PG3 on Polisy, I'm missing something
follow these instructions to upgrade the OS to 13 https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Polisy:User_Guide#Polisy_OS_Versions_Below_13 Edit to add: after the OS is up to date you'll also need to sudo pkg update sudo pkg upgrade sudo service pg3 restart once again.
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New PG3 on Polisy, I'm missing something
What is the output fromif you type uname -a
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Program help needed and switches not working
Are you pulling the set button out, waiting 30 seconds and pushing it all the way in, AND HOLDING it all the way in until the long beep STOPS ? Edit to add: You do need to at least update to 4.9. I just caught that you're still on V4 after @Techman comment... I don't remember exactly what changed after 4.7.3 but something about time does stick in my mind. Version 4 upgrades all you have to do is click the upgrade button in the admin console.
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Program help needed and switches not working
Did you also do Restore Device after the factory reset? If so, you either have a bad switch, bad PLM (if nothing is working for you) or Powerline noise.
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Insteon Hubs on eBay going for $300 plus
here is an HA automation that updates an ISY state variable names stemp_test every time the value of the sensor changes. alias: 'TEST adguard DNS ' description: '' trigger: - platform: state entity_id: sensor.adguard_dns_queries condition: [] action: - service: isy994.set_variable data: name: stemp_test value: '{{ states(''sensor.adguard_dns_queries'') }}' mode: single
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Program help needed and switches not working
Those programs will only be true very briefly at the exact time that they run, they will show false the other 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds per day. To get the program to show "true" during on times write it with a "From To" If statement. I provided the exact example of that above.
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is my new polisy dead?
You're kinda of a lone wolf. How did you complete your evaluation and arrive at the conclusion that they are selling garbage? How did you arrive at the conclusion that UDI also thinks it's products are garbage? If your premise is true, how can any user be satisfied? What specifically does "Garbage" mean in this context? You did get one thing correct!! Universal-devices will accept returns and cheerfully fully refund any user that is unsatisfied with their purchase. They also have world class support that doesn't end with warranty. Users can contact the company with support needs anytime for the life of the product (which seems to be many many years based on products prior to polisy).
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Program help needed and switches not working
AAATest.1 - [ID 01DC][Parent 0001] From Sunset To 10:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'DN Cabana Dining Table#' On Else Set 'DN Cabana Dining Table#' Off For testing purposes you can save the program, then right click the program name in the tree and choose Run Then or Run Else. As others have indicated. if the ISY can't turn the light on or off from the device tree you must solve that problem first, then worry about programs.
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Are Insteon devices worth anything now?
In the on boarding pages they suggest pi4, but say a Pi3 will work. I googled yesterday and saw where some people had install instructions for a zero. I don't know much beyond that. That said I also didnt't pay attention to how old the zero instructions were, and HA has grown leaps and bounds in the last 18 months
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HVAC Program
Thanks, After you've written a few of these it really doesn't take alot of effort, its just knowing how to use interlocked programs. BTW, I'm not sure why you are needing this program but if you're having trouble with the indoor coil freezing up that's a maintenance issue, largely caused two ways... blocked airflow, or low freon level. Blocked airflow could be return vents that aren't blocked or dirty filters etc. Low Freon is also a possibility that most people want to dismiss as impossible, how could it get too cold if the freon's low? Keep in mind that Freon isn't carrying cold in, it's carrying heat out. When it's low it can't carry heat out fast enough, but the cooled freon is still returning from outdoors. Since it can't take the heat away fast enough the indoor coil freezes.
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Are Insteon devices worth anything now?
Insteon shut off their cloud servers. Insteon hardware can still be made to work tho, you just need a controller that will access the hub. Many users have turned to Home Assistant which is a no cost open source project that will run on a variety of hardware. Best for Home Assistant is a pi4, but a 3 will do, or check out the getting started pages for more hardware options. There are some other choices like Homeseer and hubbitat, that require so fee's to get started. My son's house was using an Insteon Hub, he adopted Home Assistant to control his hub, and is very happy with the outcome. The company may have ceased operations, the cloud servers may be gone. Insteon is far from dead.