Blackbird Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) I want to turn on and off a light with button H and double tap button H to turn all lights on or off in a scene. Is this possible? thanks Edited February 16, 2015 by Blackbird
stusviews Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 You'll need to use programs. A scene cannot send an off in response to a Fast On.
Blackbird Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 so normal button pushing on the remote for scenes and double tap on remote for programs?
stusviews Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Double-tap is Fast On, so it will turn the scene on. If you want devices to turn off to a Fast-On, then you'll need a program for On and another program for Off.
lilyoyo1 Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 If you want your fast on to do something completely different from a single tap, it is best to use programs otherwise the double tap will also turn your scene on. For example, a single tap will turn my bedroom fan to medium, and a double tap will turn it to high. Pressing off turns off the fan regardless of speed. The same for my bedroom lamps. A single tap turns my lamp on while a double tap turns both mine and my fiance's lamp on. Her remote does the same. A single tap will turn hers off and a double tap will shut off the whole room. Because the remotes are used generally when we are in bed, after 10pm a double tap becomes an "all off" and shuts down the whole house. That way if we didn't arm the alarm, shut a light off, or left a door unlocked, all of those things will happen.
lilyoyo1 Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 The best thing to do is experiment. Everyone has their way of doing things. Programs you write today may not be used tomorrow. Don't be afraid to simply try stuff. The best way to learn and understand the ISY is to simply do it. If it fails try other ways of programming. In time it will get easier.
Xathros Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 The best thing to do is experiment. Everyone has their way of doing things. Programs you write today may not be used tomorrow. Don't be afraid to simply try stuff. The best way to learn and understand the ISY is to simply do it. If it fails try other ways of programming. In time it will get easier. Solid advice. This is exactly how I got to where I am now. -Xathros
Blackbird Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 You guys have tried this with the remote not just the switch itself?
larryllix Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Yes I have both my wall switch dimmer and my mini remote operate many programs in parallel, so to speak. This way my wife and guests can understand the actions for scenes to operate the same style. Once they they understand the progression of brightness achieved via fast off , off, dim, brighten, on, fast on commands the mini remote works exactly the same as the wall switch dimmer. Just insert an "OR" in your "If" section of each program with both device's similar commands and have each program turn on the wanted scene for each of the actions. Mine controls a whole room full of lights to different scene brightness levels. If WallSwitch is switched FastON OR MiniRemote is switched FastON Then set FullBrightnessScene ON Else -- Edited February 26, 2015 by larryllix
Blackbird Posted February 28, 2015 Author Posted February 28, 2015 Is your remote set to 8 button toggle or non toggle?
LeeG Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Not sure what the question is. This is an 8 button RemoteLinc2 (Mini Remote) in non-toggle mode. The trace shows two normal On commands to indicate non-toggle mode followed by a Fast On Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1C 27 E3 2] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [ 1C 27 E3 2] DON 0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 41 11 02 LTONRR (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:36 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:36 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1C 27 E3 2] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [ 1C 27 E3 2] DON 0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 41 11 02 LTONRR (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 12 00 LTON-F (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1C 27 E3 2] [DFON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [ 1C 27 E3 2] DFON 0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 C7 12 00 LTON-F (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 41 12 02 LTON-F (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 43 12 02 LTON-F (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:48 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:48 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Edited February 28, 2015 by LeeG
ScottAvery Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 If non-toggle, are you using another button for off? Or program is toggling?
LeeG Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Running in non-toggle mode means only On/Fast On commands are desired. If the Mini Remote should send On and Off commands it must run in toggle mode. EDIT: unlike a KeypadLinc which supports a non toggle On or a non toggle Off, the Mini Remote supports a non toggle On only. The Mini Remote does not support a non toggle Off mode. Edited February 28, 2015 by LeeG
Blackbird Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 I set button f to control the bathroom lights in a scene. I then did a program to control the outside lights by fast on for button f. When I do fast on for f the outside lights and the bathroom lights come on. How do you cancel the fast on and fast off in the scenes?
Xathros Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 If the button is a controller of a scene, you can't. Remove the button from the scene and use programs to activate the various scenes based on the type of button press instead. -Xathros
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