Expose scenes to secondary controller

[sastie]

Hello,

I just purchased a ISY994i-Zw and created some scenes for my inteon switches.

I also have some ZWave switches, I have added them to ISY successfully.

 

I have a secondary controller (Simon XT from Frontpoint), when I added the Simon XT to my network it picked up all my zwave devices without a problem.

 

My question is would it be possible to expose scenes from ISY to the Simon XT (maybe as a separate node of some sort) so that the simon xt could not only control the zwave devices but also the insteon ones ?

 

EDIT:

I guess what I am looking for is a zwave "virtual node " ?

 

 

Thanks

[Michel Kohanim]

hi sastie,

 

Unfortunately it's not possible since the command classes for Z-Wave are not anything like INSTEON and I am not so sure we can create any type of virtual Z-Wave node without going through certification for it. i.e. it has to act as a Z-Wave device.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[sastie]

hi sastie,

 

Unfortunately it's not possible since the command classes for Z-Wave are not anything like INSTEON and I am not so sure we can create any type of virtual Z-Wave node without going through certification for it. i.e. it has to act as a Z-Wave device.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Thanks for the answer.

Can ISY expose itself to another zwave controller as a device with simple on-off commands so that all items connected to the ISY receive said on-off commands?

What I am looking for is: my isy has my 15+ insteon devices connected to it along with zwave devices. When I leave my house I have a rule from alarm.com that is triggered by my simon xt to turn all lights off. Given that SimonXT only speaks zwave I was hoping that the ISY could pick this up and turn all my insteon devices off. My original question was attempting to make things on a per switch / scene addressable via virtual node to have more granularity, I  would be fine with a coarse approach.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi sastie,

 

Since Simon XT is a secondary controller, therefore if it controls your Z-Wave devices, ISY should pick up the status. So, if you use a device that reports its status (not those that you have to keep querying) and if you turn that device on/off from Simon XT, then ISY should be able to hear it. If this can be accomplished, you can have a program in ISY to do things based on the status of that device. I know AeoTec DSC06106 does report its status.

 

In short, instead of using virtual devices, you will need to use an actual device.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[sastie]

Thanks Michel,

 

 

Can Zwave controllers expose any functionality in Zwave ?

If so does ISY do any of that. or are there plans about supporting that feature (If this is allowed per Zwave spec)?

 

Forgive me if it is a stupid question, I have been on the insteon bandwagon for a long time and got into zwave last week...

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi sastie,

 

The only thing controllers can do is to become secondary or primary and do replication. In short, there's really no virtual node concept in Z-Wave because all command classes are strongly typed.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Aries]

Hello,

I just purchased a ISY994i-Zw and created some scenes for my inteon switches.

I also have some ZWave switches, I have added them to ISY successfully.

 

I have a secondary controller (Simon XT from Frontpoint), when I added the Simon XT to my network it picked up all my zwave devices without a problem.

 

My question is would it be possible to expose scenes from ISY to the Simon XT (maybe as a separate node of some sort) so that the simon xt could not only control the zwave devices but also the insteon ones ?

 

EDIT:

I guess what I am looking for is a zwave "virtual node " ?

 

 

Thanks

Hi

Could you please explain how you added Simon XT to the ISY network?

Thanks

[ScottAvery]

Pardon for reviving an older thread.  I thought virtual nodes were a plan for 5.0.  Just Insteon?

 

How will ISY be able to bridge between Zwave and Insteon in a meaningful way?  Only by responding across protocols with programs?  Will we have scenes within the ISY that include multiple protocols?

[ScottAvery]

Are there other devices that could create virtual zwave nodes that the ISY could recognize?  I see the spec supports virtual devices and have found reference to a bridge mode, but can't find a clear example of it implemented.  Looking for any way to reliably bridge the protocols to gain access to products like Wink Relay and Amazon Echo, but I want a solution that does not depend on a hack like the Echo/Hue bridge as I got burned once with time invested in setting up Siriproxy that was obsoleted before I got to enjoy it. 

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi ScottAvery,

 

I am little confused as what is requested and the relationship between virtual nodes, Wink, Echo, and Siri.

 

5.0 has support for virtual nodes but I doubt we'll be doing anything even remotely with Wink. We are working on Echo and we should have a portal based solution which will have nothing to do with virtual nodes.

 

With kind regards,

Michel