Cormacs Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Do it in the summer or with a heat gun. They like to break in the cold. Stay off shingles if there is any frost on them. Not that we would have that in Canuckistan. Right now the temps during the day are staying above 10 degrees so I'm hoping with a little heat from a heat gun, putty knife and some patients I will be able to lift them. I have been wanting to do this for some time now. This is the perfect time, not too cold that the shingles should still co-operate and cold enough that the insects should be out of my attic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Cormacs Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 So from what I'm reading on the forum. I have to have external power for the ISY to have a live reading from the thermostat? I was kind of hoping to run it on a battery power and just hang it on the wall. I guess I will have to find a way to hide a wire to it. Link to comment
stusviews Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The wireless thermostat uses 5VDC (USB power), so you don't need a power supply. Replace the nearest outlet with one that has a USB receptacle and run a USB cable from there to the thermostat. I equipped my thermostat with a USB connector. The thermostat will send signals to the ISY on battery power. A problem is if you view the thermostat when it's idle, then you won't see the current reading. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Maybe I'll poke a hole in the wall right beside the outlet and run the cord inside the wall. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
stusviews Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Maybe I'll poke a hole in the wall right beside the outlet and run the cord inside the wall. The NEC permits that because it's low voltage. The thermostat is wall mountable and will run programs, even on battery power. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 I wish the place I ordered from didn't ship signature required. Now I'm going to have to wait an extra day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I take the tracking ingo page, print it out, and sign it, then tape it to the outside of my door. UPS snd Fedex have no problem leaving the package when a signature is required. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'll try it, should be here to tomorrow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Sweet, they dropped it. Can't wait to get home and try out my new thermostat and synchrolincs. Instead of starting a new thread, anyone know how I can make a program to count when the synchrolinc is triggered. I plan on putting my sump pumps on the synchrolincs to monitor their use. So I would like to know how long they are running each day, can I do this with a program? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 AFAIK, there's no count up function. But you can send a message when the pump starts and another when it stops. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 That sucks. I tried making variable and then putting +=1 in a program then repeat every second. It counted up 1 just fine but the repeat didn't seam to work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
paulbates Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I adapted this program I use to track humidification cycles for my furnaces. It shows how to track for each cycle, as well as the total. I've never tried counting to seconds, this one has operated using minutes. If status synchrolinc is on Then $sumppump_cycles += 1 How many cycles were there? Repeat Every 1 minute $sumppump_current_cycle_time += 1 How long is the current cycle (minutes)? Else $sumppump_total_runtime += $sumpump_current_cycle_time Add the current cycle to the total runtime (minutes) (Do stuff with the current cycle data, log, notify, etc) $sumppump_current_cycle_time = 0 Reset the current cycle time counter Daily, maybe midnight, you'll want another program to log the cycles and total runtime and reset. Or weekly, or whatever time period seems good. This also assumes a good clean on and off from the syncrolinc, and that its not jumping on and off a few times when starting and stopping, which will affect the cycle counter. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Got my thermostat today and it is working great. Ramps the fan up when the shower starts. Ramps the fan down as the humidity drops. I wish I could just figure out a way for the isy to keep track of run time on the synchrolincs and I would be a happy man. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Got my thermostat today and it is working great. Ramps the fan up when the shower starts. Ramps the fan down as the humidity drops. I wish I could just figure out a way for the isy to keep track of run time on the synchrolincs and I would be a happy man. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It should be fairly easy with V5++ so far. When the fan turns on you save the current seconds since the start of the day in a variable. When the fan turns off you use the current seconds since the start of the day and subtract the variable = difference. Run another program if the difference is over the amount of seconds in 24 hours subtract that many seconds. Add the resultant difference to the accumulated seconds in the total fan run time. Another program sends the variable to you by email each month before midnight and resets the variable to zero. Divide by 60 for minutes, and 60 for hours before sending as desired. Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I adapted this program I use to track humidification cycles for my furnaces. It shows how to track for each cycle, as well as the total. I've never tried counting to seconds, this one has operated using minutes. If status synchrolinc is on Then $sumppump_cycles += 1 How many cycles were there? Repeat Every 1 minute $sumppump_current_cycle_time += 1 How long is the current cycle (minutes)? Else $sumppump_total_runtime += $sumpump_current_cycle_time Add the current cycle to the total runtime (minutes) (Do stuff with the current cycle data, log, notify, etc) $sumppump_current_cycle_time = 0 Reset the current cycle time counter Daily, maybe midnight, you'll want another program to log the cycles and total runtime and reset. Or weekly, or whatever time period seems good. This also assumes a good clean on and off from the syncrolinc, and that its not jumping on and off a few times when starting and stopping, which will affect the cycle counter. Don't you need something like If status synchrolinc is on And status synchrolinc is not off to run the Else? Link to comment
paulbates Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Don't you need something like If status synchrolinc is on And status synchrolinc is not off to run the Else? I use a similar program with status to watch a keypad key and change my thermostats from home to away; the second statement in the if has not been needed. Is that more a requirement when using control? It would not hurt to do it. Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 If status synchrolinc is on And status synchrolinc is not off My experience is that. "If control/status" is set on (or off) will correctly run the "Then" statements, but nothing therein triggers the "Else" statements. Adding "If ... , is not on (or off)" does run the "Else." That's because the condition states what to do when it's true, but it doesn't state what to do if it's false. Including "If ... is not" is the "Else" trigger. Example: If the sun shines, then I'll go to the beach. The sun does not shine, but I go to the beach. Is my statement true? Yes, it is. I only said what I'll do if the sun shines. I didn't state what I'll do if the sun doesn't shine. The only action that will make the statement false is if the sun shines and I don't go to the beach. If the sun does not shine, it doesn't matter what I do, the statement is still true. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 How do I make save the seconds from the start of day to a variable? I didn't see that option? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
oberkc Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 If status synchrolinc is on And status synchrolinc is not off My experience is that. "If control/status" is set on (or off) will correctly run the "Then" statements, but nothing therein triggers the "Else" statements. Adding "If ... , is not on (or off)" does run the "Else." That's because the condition states what to do when it's true, but it doesn't state what to do if it's false. Including "If ... is not" is the "Else" trigger. Example: If the sun shines, then I'll go to the beach. The sun does not shine, but I go to the beach. Is my statement true? Yes, it is. I only said what I'll do if the sun shines. I didn't state what I'll do if the sun doesn't shine. The only action that will make the statement false is if the sun shines and I don't go to the beach. If the sun does not shine, it doesn't matter what I do, the statement is still true. In my experience, the "if...is not" statement is NOT needed for status conditions. Unlike control statements, an status condition will trigger upon any change in state, including from off to on, and from on to OFF. A condition such as If synchrolinc is on ...... Will trigger and evaluate true when changes state to ON, and will trigger and evaluate false when changes state to OFF. Also, unlike control, the cause of the state change is irrelevant. Whether controlled directly or remotely or as part of a scene, ANY change in status will trigger the condition. Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 In my experience, the "if...is not" statement is NOT needed for status conditions. Unlike control statements, an status condition will trigger upon any change in state, including from off to on, and from on to OFF. A condition such as If synchrolinc is on ...... Will trigger and evaluate true when changes state to ON, and will trigger and evaluate false when changes state to OFF. Also, unlike control, the cause of the state change is irrelevant. Whether controlled directly or remotely or as part of a scene, ANY change in status will trigger the condition. Well said. This is a hard concept, at first. I like to think of 'control' detecting the edge of the change or active signal and each device has two (or more) signals. 'On' and 'quiet'. The other signal is 'Off' and 'quiet'. ISY has combined and remembers the results into one status page with just 'On' and 'Off' showing. Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 How do I make save the seconds from the start of day to a variable? I didn't see that option? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You need to be running IIRC v4.2.18 and up. V5++ has it for sure. Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Mine isy has the latest software. It was just updated on the weekend. I don't see anything like that. Maybe I'm not looking in the right spot? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hi Cormacs, Since 5.0 started off as a developer/alpha only version, it's listed under Developer section: http://forum.universal-devices.com/forum/56-developers/ Once it becomes more robust and user friendly, it'll move to our regular section. Please note that 5.0 is at best beta quality. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Cormacs Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Oh ok. I didn't realize. I'll look into it when I get home from work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Oh ok. I didn't realize. I'll look into it when I get home from work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk V5.0.2 has some cosmetic problems but is mostly functional for all of my stuff. Link to comment
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