Bxsteez Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I've been looking around and it seems that the isyportal will be the pathway to Echo support and IFFFT support but this is not yet available. So my question is what can it do now? Also will there be harmony and nest support? Link to comment
Teken Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I've been looking around and it seems that the isyportal will be the pathway to Echo support and IFFFT support but this is not yet available. So my question is what can it do now? Also will there be harmony and nest support? This is just a quick summary and Michel will need to affirm or clarify anything I stated here: 1. Allows remote access to the controller with out the need to complete port forwarding in the router. 2. Allows multiple users, accounts, and control of multi ISY controllers to be managed. 3. Allows two or more ISY Series Controllers to be connected and bi-directional control via network resources / programs. 4. Will allow more cloud based services to be connected to the hardware not available before: Echo, IFTT, etc 5. Allows 3rd party branding of the web portal to meet their companies needs etc. Link to comment
Bxsteez Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 This is just a quick summary and Michel will need to affirm or clarify anything I stated here: 1. Allows remote access to the controller with out the need to complete port forwarding in the router. 2. Allows multiple users, accounts, and control of multi ISY controllers to be managed. 3. Allows two or more ISY Series Controllers to be connected and bi-directional control via network resources / programs. 4. Will allow more cloud based services to be connected to the hardware not available before: Echo, IFTT, etc 5. Allows 3rd party branding of the web portal to meet their companies needs etc. Allows two or more ISY series controllers only applies to ISY controllers right? Controlling another controller like a Tuxedo Touch is still out of the question right? Link to comment
jerlands Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 This is just a quick summary and Michel will need to affirm or clarify anything I stated here: 1. Allows remote access to the controller with out the need to complete port forwarding in the router. 2. Allows multiple users, accounts, and control of multi ISY controllers to be managed. 3. Allows two or more ISY Series Controllers to be connected and bi-directional control via network resources / programs. 4. Will allow more cloud based services to be connected to the hardware not available before: Echo, IFTT, etc 5. Allows 3rd party branding of the web portal to meet their companies needs etc. So doesn't this eliminate the need for a Dynamic DNS server and CA certificate? Jon... Link to comment
paulbates Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) So doesn't this eliminate the need for a Dynamic DNS server and CA certificate? Jon.. When you login through the portal, you do not need either of those things. However, if you are using mobile apps that need direct access, or you access your Home Area Network for other reasons besides the ISY, you may still want those things. Edited November 11, 2015 by paulbates Link to comment
Teken Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Allows two or more ISY series controllers only applies to ISY controllers right? Controlling another controller like a Tuxedo Touch is still out of the question right? My reply should have been more specific so I apologize if I was unclear. The over all intent with the portal is that some elements of the service would make controlling another 994 Series Controller some what easier. Those who are using the 5.XX Beta platform and 4.3.26 as far as I am aware already have this ability as I have read. Clarification will need to be provided by UDI as to the amount of over lap and control the portal will have over the (native) controller based system. With respect to third party control via the 994 Series Controller? It would depend upon whether or not this device has the ability to take network commands etc. If it does and they are documented I am sure lots of folks would be able to provide some insight and feedback as to what the network resource structure would look like to control the 3rd party system. I know from casual reading that lots of folks have had great success with iTach, Sono's, RPi, Onkyo, etc. My belief and (limited) understanding is that once the 5.XX platform has matured and developed a lot more, is lots of these things will be quite doable natively with out the aid of the ISY Portal. Edited November 11, 2015 by Teken Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Hi everyone, 5.0 will facilitate communications between two or more ISYs. This is currently not well tested. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
MWareman Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 When you login through the portal, you do not need either of those things. However, if you are using mobile apps that need direct access, or you access your Home Area Network for other reasons besides the ISY, you may still want those things. Don't know about other mobile apps, but Mobilinc can (securely) connect to the Portal without the need for a certificate or port forwarding. Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Big517 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So I have the portal installed, I cannot find information on setting up the SONOS with this... currently i'm controlling it via network commands, but I cannot find Portal integration, is there anything else other than the expected forum search I should be aware of? Link to comment
Xathros Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The portal does not offer anything currently for integration with Sonos. You would continue to use network resources for that. The Portal will allow integration with Amazon echo once the skill is approved and published by Amazon (hopefully within 10-ish days based on other threads) and may offer IFTTT integration somewhere further down the line. No other integrations have been announced that I am aware of. -Xathros Link to comment
Big517 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The portal does not offer anything currently for integration with Sonos. You would continue to use network resources for that. The Portal will allow integration with Amazon echo once the skill is approved and published by Amazon (hopefully within 10-ish days based on other threads) and may offer IFTTT integration somewhere further down the line. No other integrations have been announced that I am aware of. -Xathros So currently there is nothing* I can do with the Portal, correct? *at least publicly Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Big517, You can access ISY remotely through the portal. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Teken Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So currently there is nothing* I can do with the Portal, correct? *at least publicly You can access your 994 Series Controller with out the aid of port forwarding. You can control two or more units from the web portal and review logs etc. Link to comment
Xathros Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Well, you can use the portal for remote access to your ISY without the need for port forwarding in your router. -Xathros Link to comment
Big517 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ok that should help out controlling things remotely! I'll keep an eye out for updates in the meantime and keep browsing the forums to see what other cool things i've missed Link to comment
Bxsteez Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Does anyone know why there is an option to link an amazon account? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hi Bxsteez, We are waiting for Amazon certification before we enable that feature (it's commented out right now). With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Bxsteez Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hi Bxsteez, We are waiting for Amazon certification before we enable that feature (it's commented out right now). With kind regards, Michel Really? I was able to link my amazon account last night. I don't know what that did or what it meant but I suspected it had to do with echo integration so I leaped on it Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hi Bxsteez, You can link it but it's in a dormant state (not activated). With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
madcodger Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 So, any chance we might be able to connect ISY with Nest using the portal? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hi madcodger, We cannot do anything with NEST since we do demand/response applications. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
madcodger Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hi madcodger, We cannot do anything with NEST since we do demand/response applications. With kind regards, Michel Well, of course... Sigh... I think those of us who don't want to run an Insteon or Zwave thermostat are just basically out of luck when it comes to ISY, correct? Link to comment
MWareman Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) UDI not being able to work with Nest is a Google enforced restriction. They (Google) simply prohibit any company that does demand/response energy management from using the API. The new Honeywell stats work with IFTTT now, and ISY can control them by using the network module and the IFTTT Maker channel already. You currently cannot easily get feedback from the stat though, without running a third party process. There has been some success with other WiFi stats as well - but I haven't followed these. Edited December 4, 2015 by MWareman Link to comment
madcodger Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 UDI not being able to work with Nest is a Google enforced restriction. They (Google) simply prohibit any company that does demand/response energy management from using the API. Can you (or anyone) elaborate on WHY Google is taking this stance? Link to comment
Teken Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Can you (or anyone) elaborate on WHY Google is taking this stance? That is a pretty loaded question considering the company you're asking about. This company is hell bent on becoming SkyNET and having complete command & control of everything in our lives. As an aside if you do a quick search in this forum there was a young lad that indicated a hack to allow control of the Nest TSTAT. I also believe a related thread was indicated in the Vera forum so you should go over there and see what pops out. Link to comment
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