nolan11 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Hello, I have a Scene setup called "Night Time Mood Dim" It allows certain lights to come on at sunset every day. Problem is, sometimes some of the lights do not come on so I have to manually go into the app and click my scene to send the signal again. My question, is there a way to set it up so ISY automatically repeats sending the signal a few seconds after the first attempt? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment
LeeG Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 The best solution is to find and fix the issue(s) with in the Insteon network. Until then the Program can be updated to repeat the Scene. AAAA4 - [iD 006C][Parent 0001] If Time is Sunset Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
stusviews Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 A bit shorter and you can easily adjust the number of repetitions needed. If Time is Sunset Then Repeat x times Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 3 seconds Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') But, LeeG's advice is best. Find the communication difficulty that's causing the problem. Link to comment
nolan11 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 Thanks so much for the help on this guys, that seemed to work. Next question. When I push ISY OFF on my iPhone to turn all lights off when going to bed. I want the outdoor lights to stay on which for the most part they do until sunset. There is a couple lights that do not stay on. Not sure why they don't stay on like the others. For example, when clicking ISY off, my outdoor lights stay on which is correct, but the couple indoor lights I want to stay on, go off. Cant figure it out. Link to comment
LeeG Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 What does the system do when ISY OFF is pressed? A Program invoked? A Scene turned Off? If a Scene Off is issued all devices in the Scene would turn Off. For some devices to remain On they would not be in the Scene or those devices are part of the Insteon network comm issues you have already mentioned in the initial post. Link to comment
larryllix Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Are we sure the lights were on in the first place? Could be more Insteon comm problems. Link to comment
nolan11 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 What does the system do when ISY OFF is pressed? A Program invoked? A Scene turned Off? If a Scene Off is issued all devices in the Scene would turn Off. For some devices to remain On they would not be in the Scene or those devices are part of the Insteon network comm issues you have already mentioned in the initial post. Basically I have a program setup called "Outdoor/Indoor Lights" It turns on at Sunset and has "IF" set to Sunrise (next day). When I go to bed I go to my iPhone and click ISY off to turn off all the downstairs lights. There is two lights I have set to turn off at sunrise that also go off but shouldn't. Its the indoor pool light and a garage LED light. Just don't know why they shut off when they are under the "IF" command for sunrise. Link to comment
larryllix Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Post the programs. You may have a quirk in your negative logic that stops the program process. Right click on program and "copy to clipboard" Link to comment
nolan11 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 I am going to try what LeeG said. I am going to remove the 2 lights from my scenes they are in to see if that works. Will report back. Thanks again everyone for the help. Link to comment
nolan11 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 Night TIme Mood Dim New - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If Time is Sunset Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Outdoor/Indoor Lights New - [iD 0004][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) Then Set Scene 'Outdoor - Indoor Lights' On Wait 4 seconds Set Scene 'Outdoor - Indoor Lights' On Else Set Scene 'Outdoor - Indoor Lights' Off Link to comment
stusviews Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 That you need two statements to turn a scene on indicates a communication problem which would explain why the results are not as expected. Link to comment
nolan11 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 Ok now I have the wait 4 seconds for it to resend but it will not resend. I even tried repeat function and it will not work..This is frustrating.... Night TIme Mood Dim New - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If Time is Sunset Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Repeat 1 times Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I am doing this because not all the lights turn on the first time so I would like to resend the signal. I have also trued this... Night TIme Mood Dim New - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If Time is Sunset Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Any ideas ? Link to comment
stusviews Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 A bit shorter and you can easily adjust the number of repetitions needed. If Time is Sunset Then Repeat x times Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 3 seconds Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') But, LeeG's advice is best. Find the communication difficulty that's causing the problem. Start by replacing x with 10. If that works, then reduce x. What happens if you turn the scene on and off from the Admin Console instead of the program? Do you get consistent expected results? BTW, repeat 1 time runs the statement only once, not twice. Link to comment
larryllix Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 <snipped> BTW, repeat 1 time runs the statement only once, not twice. To clarify further (maybe). It the indented lines after the Repeat 1 time that gets executed once. "Repeat" is not syntactically correct. Read as "Do 1 times" Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Repeat 1 times Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Link to comment
Algorithm Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Ok now I have the wait 4 seconds for it to resend but it will not resend. I even tried repeat function and it will not work..This is frustrating.... Night TIme Mood Dim New - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If Time is Sunset Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Repeat 1 times Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I am doing this because not all the lights turn on the first time so I would like to resend the signal. I have also trued this... Night TIme Mood Dim New - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If Time is Sunset Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Any ideas ? How do you know it will not resend--are you monitoring with Event Viewer? If indeed the second command is never sent, it may be because each of your programs contains either a Wait or a Repeat, and those are the two commands which allow a program to be interrupted. In this case, your condition Time is Sunset is true for exactly one second, and would therefore be false by the time the Wait has ended. Try If Time is From Sunset For 30 Seconds instead, and let us know if the second command is now being sent. Al Link to comment
stusviews Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 BTW, it's been mentioned a couple of times that Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Repeat 1 times Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On is exactly the same as Then Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Set Scene 'Night Time Mood Dim' On Any statement following Repeat 1 times will be executed once only. Link to comment
LeeG Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 nolan11 "In this case, your condition Time is Sunset is true for exactly one second, and would therefore be false by the time the Wait has ended." I'm sure the info being posted is well meaning but it is wrong. The "If Time is Sunset" is like "If Control", there is no False side. The Waits work as I initially posted. Using this Program and Event Trace running it shows three Set Scene ..... On commands being executed after the Wait AAAA4 Time - [iD 00A6][Parent 0001] If Time is 10:19:00AM Then Set Scene 'SceneCrossLink' On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'SceneCrossLink' On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'SceneCrossLink' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') . Sun 05/15/2016 10:18:56 AM : [ Time] 10:19:00 0(0) Sun 05/15/2016 10:18:56 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 5C CF 11 00 Sun 05/15/2016 10:18:56 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.5C CF 11 00 06 LTONRR (00) - first Set Scene Sun 05/15/2016 10:18:59 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 5C CF 11 00 Sun 05/15/2016 10:18:59 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.5C CF 11 00 06 LTONRR (00) - 2nd Set Scene 3 seconds later Sun 05/15/2016 10:19:02 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 5C CF 11 00 Sun 05/15/2016 10:19:02 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.5C CF 11 00 06 LTONRR (00) - 3rd Set Scene 3 seconds later Note that one of your posts shows two Programs being triggered at Sunset. I urge changing one to Sunset + 5 seconds to provide a small separation between the running of each Program Link to comment
Javi Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Thought I would chime in with a similar experience. If I sent a scene "on" command and a few of the lights in the scene did not turn on, it did not matter how many additional times I sent the scene "on" command it would not turn on the lights which where off. It would work if I sent the scene off command then the scene on command again, sometimes. I ended up just having the program turn on each device after the scene on command which would work. I found I had a malfunctioning device which was causing most of the errors, but the scene problems still happen from time to time so I have these programs also trigger the device along with the scene. Link to comment
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