bpwwer Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 10:28 AM, Whitehambone said: I will try one of your suggestions, thanks! Do you know if either of them have Dew Point, Heat Index and Wind Chill? Darksky has dewpoint and apparent temperature, Open Weather Map doesn't have any of them. Although I believe those can all be calculated from the data available. That sounds like a good enhancement request for the node servers, so I've added it to my todo lists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootdet Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I noticed that Darksky polyglot is not displaying chance of rain or rain rate for me. It also did not update climate conditions to indicate rain when it started to rain tonight. These variables were on the darksky web site, and appeared populated in the api call. Also I was wondering if there is any indicators for chance of snow and snow rate? Up here in the North we get that stuff too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisC Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I have found Dark Sky to be very aggressive in predicting rain. Often climate condition predicts rain while other forecasts do not. As for snow predictions, a climate condition of 3 is for snow and 4 is sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Rootdet said: I noticed that Darksky polyglot is not displaying chance of rain or rain rate for me. It also did not update climate conditions to indicate rain when it started to rain tonight. These variables were on the darksky web site, and appeared populated in the api call. Also I was wondering if there is any indicators for chance of snow and snow rate? Up here in the North we get that stuff too! Oops, looks like I never hooked up rain rate or chance of rain. I never noticed since we don't really get any rain until November. I'm not sure why climate conditions didn't update, it should reflect what DarkSky is reporting. I'll add snow data to the TODO list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, bpwwer said: Oops, looks like I never hooked up rain rate or chance of rain. I never noticed since we don't really get any rain until November. I'm not sure why climate conditions didn't update, it should reflect what DarkSky is reporting. I'll add snow data to the TODO list. Just pushed version 1.1.6 that fixes the rain rate and chance of rain (which are actually precipitation rate and chance of precipitation, so should reflect snow as well). What's missing is the type of precipitation so that's what's on the TODO list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootdet Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Apparently I'm extremely challenged when it comes to Polygot node servers. Skipping details, I've never been successful with the pi version, set out to conquor that at one point but discovered Polisy had been announced, decided to just order Polisy and wait so that I wouldn't need to worry about maintaining a pi for that purpose. Then I recently noticed Polygot Cloud and decided to give that a try but really only on store offering was of interest to me. https://github.com/bpaauwe/AmbientWeatherNS looked like it was documented with instructions (unlike https://github.com/simplextech/udi-poly-ambientweather which has a blank template for install instructions). I figured this should be easy! I easily generated an Ambient API key, and found the MAC address of my station. So far so good. Until I get to Step 3 of the install instructions. The ISY never rebooted (I have an ISY program that notifies me of reboots and a counter variable with hours since last reboot), however another day I noticed that under the NS menu in the admin console there is a configuration popoluated for node server #1. So I moved on to Step 4 of the install instructions but can't figure out HOW to configure the NS. On the cloud instance there is no place to paste the API key or the MAC address. (i tried guessing some ways but nothing worked). I finally destroyed that instance and started fresh... still haven't figured it out. Current status always shows Disconnected. If I click Details it says AmbientPoly(1) Current Status: Disconnected Current Version: 0.1.2 Time Started: Not Running Uptime: NoneCurrent Worker: ambientpoly-0021b90234d8-1 If I click start, it says it's already started, even tho the status above says it's not. If I click configuration it lets me change shortPoll and longPoll but doesn't have a place to paste an API key or MAC address. I've tried guessing with custom Key names and values but that didn't work. If I click Nodes (0) nothing happens. So I'm stuck... I've tried everything I can guess to try. I'd just wait for Polisy but it seems like this should work and be easy... and it's not. WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING WRONG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 9:34 AM, MrBill said: Until I get to Step 3 of the install instructions. The ISY never rebooted (I have an ISY program that notifies me of reboots and a counter variable with hours since last reboot), however another day I noticed that under the NS menu in the admin console there is a configuration popoluated for node server #1. I believe that the reboot is no longer needed. The instructions need to be updated to remove that step. On 10/18/2019 at 9:34 AM, MrBill said: So I moved on to Step 4 of the install instructions but can't figure out HOW to configure the NS. On the cloud instance there is no place to paste the API key or the MAC address. (i tried guessing some ways but nothing worked). I finally destroyed that instance and started fresh... still haven't figured it out. So I'm stuck... I've tried everything I can guess to try. I'd just wait for Polisy but it seems like this should work and be easy... and it's not. WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING WRONG? This is a long standing issue with the cloud based polyglot. The PI based version will pre-populate the custom configuration values with defaults so that they show up on the configuration screen. The cloud based polygot does not so you have to guess. The other long standing issue with the cloud based polyglot is that it won't display the configuration help instructions so there's no way for the node server to help you out with what needs to be configured. You have to add both the 'key' and the 'value' for the following custom configuration parameters: key = macAddress value = <your station mac address> key = APIKey value = <your api key> The keys need to be entered exactly as above, including the case. Once you enter these and save them, the node server should connect to the Ambient servers and start sending data to the ISY. What may be missing in the instructions is that you do need to restart the admin console after the node server is installed so that it will pick up the new nodes created by the node server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, bpwwer said: I believe that the reboot is no longer needed. The instructions need to be updated to remove that step. This is a long standing issue with the cloud based polyglot. The PI based version will pre-populate the custom configuration values with defaults so that they show up on the configuration screen. The cloud based polygot does not so you have to guess. The other long standing issue with the cloud based polyglot is that it won't display the configuration help instructions so there's no way for the node server to help you out with what needs to be configured. You have to add both the 'key' and the 'value' for the following custom configuration parameters: key = macAddress value = <your station mac address> key = APIKey value = <your api key> The keys need to be entered exactly as above, including the case. Once you enter these and save them, the node server should connect to the Ambient servers and start sending data to the ISY. What may be missing in the instructions is that you do need to restart the admin console after the node server is installed so that it will pick up the new nodes created by the node server. I did some guessing just like this actually. None of my guesses worked. But these don't either. AmbientPoly(1) Current Status: Disconnected Current Version: 0.1.2 Time Started: Not Running Uptime: NoneCurrent Worker: ambientpoly-0021b90234d8-1 I played with the stop and start buttons but the status is still "not running", uptime "none", status Disconnected. 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You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command. Traceback (most recent call last): File "./ambient-poly.py", line 6, in <module> import polyinterface ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'polyinterface' Although I didn't notice it before I think the last line of the log might be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, MrBill said: Although I didn't notice it before I think the last line of the log might be the issue. It is. Apparently you're the first person to try and run this from Polyglot cloud. There was a change in the module name quite a while back, shortly after I wrote this. It's been broken since then. I just pushed version 0.1.3 so it should show up in the store in a hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 hours ago, bpwwer said: I just pushed version 0.1.3 so it should show up in the store in a hour or so Thanks. This version doesn't seem to work either. Just to clarify because this is the first node server I've attempted to use, I should press Stop and then Start to make the update occur? Doing that doesn't make it it update the status are of the screen, it still shows 0.1.2, disconnected, not running etc... I don't know how to interpret the log but it looks like it's got errors. 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You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command. --- Logging error --- File "./ambient-poly.py", line 8, in <module> import polyinterface ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'polyinterface' Traceback (most recent call last): OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor self.socket.send(msg) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/logging/handlers.py", line 936, in emit During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): self._connect_unixsocket(self.address) Traceback (most recent call last): OSError: [Errno 107] Transport endpoint is not connected File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/logging/handlers.py", line 854, in _connect_unixsocket self.socket.connect(address) File "./ambient-poly.py", line 10, in <module> During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: import pgc_interface as polyinterface File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 728, in exec_module File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 983, in _find_and_load File "/root/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/__init__.py", line 10, in <module> File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 677, in _load_unlocked File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/logging/handlers.py", line 933, in emit File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 219, in _call_with_frames_removed FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory LOGGER.info('{} {} Starting...'.format(__description__, __version__)) Call stack: File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 967, in _find_and_load_unlocked Message: 'PGC Interface 1.0.11 Starting...' Arguments: () File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/threading.py", line 865, in run Traceback (most recent call last): File "/root/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 134, in _message File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/threading.py", line 917, in _bootstrap_inner FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Exception in thread Interface: self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs) self.run() self.sock.connect(SOCKETFILE) Traceback (most recent call last): self.sock.sendall((json.dumps(message) + '\n').encode('utf-8')) File "./ambient-poly.py", line 262, in <module> File "/root/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 203, in send File "/root/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 182, in start polyglot.start() self.send({ 'connected': True }) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 hours ago, MrBill said: Thanks. This version doesn't seem to work either. Just to clarify because this is the first node server I've attempted to use, I should press Stop and then Start to make the update occur? Doing that doesn't make it it update the status are of the screen, it still shows 0.1.2, disconnected, not running etc... I don't know how to interpret the log but it looks like it's got errors. I believe that it is suppose to automatically update when stopping and then restarting. You can try the latest and see if it works any better for you. It shouldn't have any errors now, but I'm having all kinds of strange problems with polyglot cloud. If I reload the web page after making any changes it seems to make things work sometimes. I'd suggest deleting the node server and re-installing it from the store. That way you know you're running the latest version (which should be 0.1.4 now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanHorse Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hi @bpwwer - First, thank you for creating all of these weather node servers. The entire community benefits greatly by your efforts and those of others that create these valuable additions for us. I see you've created several weather node servers. Some appear to rely on one's own "local weather station" hardware. I don't have any of that. As this thread is long and things can change, I'm wondering if you can give a brief overview of (or point me where to look for) the differences between them, and maybe which one you think is currently "best". How would you compare them to the Climate Module in ISY? Maybe this should be a new thread. I'll defer to you to define best since you're closer to them. I'm not exactly sure how I'd use them, but I would start with pretty simple stuff. I understand that the data these services provide is out of your control. Would you ever use more than one in tandem? Thanks for the work you've done and thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 12 hours ago, TrojanHorse said: Hi @bpwwer - First, thank you for creating all of these weather node servers. The entire community benefits greatly by your efforts and those of others that create these valuable additions for us. I see you've created several weather node servers. Some appear to rely on one's own "local weather station" hardware. I don't have any of that. As this thread is long and things can change, I'm wondering if you can give a brief overview of (or point me where to look for) the differences between them, and maybe which one you think is currently "best". How would you compare them to the Climate Module in ISY? Maybe this should be a new thread. I'll defer to you to define best since you're closer to them. I'm not exactly sure how I'd use them, but I would start with pretty simple stuff. I understand that the data these services provide is out of your control. Would you ever use more than one in tandem? Thanks for the work you've done and thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide. I don't think 'best' really applies when looking at the different node servers I've created. The node servers that pull data from specific hardware are obviously tied to the hardware capabilities so you'd have to first define which hardware is best for your if you're looking for a personal weather station (which I understand you are not). It doesn't make sense to really compare those node servers with the ones that pull data from on-line weather services. If you look at the various node servers I've created for weather services (in alphabetical order): udi-apixu-poly: Going away as the service is being discontinued and replaced by a new API called WeatherStack udi-darksky-poly udi-owm-poly (OpenWeatherMap.org) udi-weatherbit-poly (under development) udi-weatherstack-poly (under development) There are slight differences in the actual data returned by each service, but in general, they all support the same basic set of data. There are differences in the plans each offer. Right now, I've coded these to support what data is returned by the 'free' plans. With paid plans, more data is available (typically things like longer forecasts and air quality type data). The terms of use for each is different so that may effect which is better for you personally. The biggest difference would be related to where and how these services get the data they provide. They mostly don't disclose this information, but it can effect how accurate the data is for your location. I.E. one service pulls current conditions from an airport 60 miles away while another gets data from a college 2 miles away. You'd have to try the different services to see what one tracks best with your location. The location issue is the main reason I started writing these. I live in a foothill area at about 1300ft elevation. When looking at data from weather services it either comes from an airport that is at about 200ft elevation or one that is about 3000ft elevation. Those can be up to about 10 degrees different in temperature from my location, which makes using the data to adjust things like HVAC and and a whole house fan difficult. I'm currently using a WeatherFlow personal weather station to get local condition data. The ISY climate module is getting it's data from Aeris weather service. It's similar to the above services but doesn't offer a free plan. The main difference right now is that it offers a little bit better integration with the ISY and integrates with the irrigation module. That's one area where the weather node servers need some work to catch up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanHorse Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Thank you! This is a helpful overview. It appears that some are named a bit differently in the polyglot store, but as those are under development I likely wouldn't pick them at this point. Perhaps I'll look at investing in a local weather hardware device. I'm guessing there that while you can get specificity of current conditions, the forecast data might suffer a similar location problem that you describe? I took a brief look at the WeatherFlow and didn't see a mention of detecting snow. Anyway, this gives me something to think about and I'm glad I didn't just start with the first one in the alphabetical list as that one is going away. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Yes, even with a local weather station, forecasting would come from a service and still suffer inaccuracies from location, but that's pretty much true of any forecast data you get today. For actual automation, at least what I'm doing, it's the current condition data that's really important. For example, I have a rule that is something like this: if a window is open AND the outside temp is less than the inside temp, then turn on the whole house fan. For this to work, I need to know the real outside temperature. When I was trying to use the climate module for this, it was a problem. Both because the temperature reported wasn't very close and because the update interval was so long. That's another think about the various services, the time between updates can vary. Getting a temperature reading once an hour during morning or evening hours when the temperature is changing much more quickly can also be a problem. Note, the node serves that I listed as under development aren't available in the store yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 7:09 PM, bpwwer said: I believe that it is suppose to automatically update when stopping and then restarting. You can try the latest and see if it works any better for you. It shouldn't have any errors now, but I'm having all kinds of strange problems with polyglot cloud. If I reload the web page after making any changes it seems to make things work sometimes. I'd suggest deleting the node server and re-installing it from the store. That way you know you're running the latest version (which should be 0.1.4 now). Thanks! Appears to be working now. (Although I didn't do anything! it seems to have taken a few hours to startup. When I posted above I was waiting to board a plane and it wasn't working... this is the first chance I've had to look since that time. Based on "time started" It seems to have randomly begun to work either 2 or 4 hours later (not sure which times are displayed CDT or PDT)). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Hi @bpwwer I have no idea how to submit a file via github, however you might take a peak at this attached suggestion for updating the README. I admit my proposed changes aren't exactly perfect but I don't know how to make it perfect either. The biggest point tho is the two magic strings are included "APIKey' and "macAddress". With this info I would have figured it out... I was convinced I was the one that was doing something wrong. As it turns out, no one can get this running on Cloud Polyglot without knowing the two magic strings. AmbientWeather-polyglot_README Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecheng70 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I am having issues with getting my weatherflow hub talking with the ISY with the weatherflowpoly. I have tried adding the stationID from the app and it contiues to log the following: 2019-10-25 09:10:08,744 [Controller] [INFO ] Updating Driver hub - GV4: 1572019808, uom: 57 2019-10-25 09:11:08,742 [Controller] [DEBUG] heartbeat hb=1 2019-10-25 09:11:08,743 [Controller] [DEBUG] set_hub_timestamp: 1572019868 2019-10-25 09:11:08,744 [Controller] [INFO ] Updating Driver hub - GV4: 1572019868, uom: 57 Prior to this there is an error in the log file: 2019-10-25 09:03:09,062 [Thread-1 ] [ERROR] Exception in thread Thread-1: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/threading.py", line 917, in _bootstrap_inner self.run() File "/usr/lib/python3.7/threading.py", line 865, in run self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs) File "./weatherflow.py", line 362, in udp_data s.bind(('0.0.0.0', self.udp_port)) OSError: [Errno 98] Address already in use 2019-10-25 09:03:09,063 [Thread-1 ] [WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.7/threading.py:951: ResourceWarning: unclosed <socket.socket fd=7, family=AddressFamily.AF_INET, type=SocketKind.SOCK_DGRAM, proto=0, laddr=('0.0.0.0', 0)> 2019-10-25 09:04:08,741 [Controller] [DEBUG] heartbeat hb=0 Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwwer Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, Mecheng70 said: I am having issues with getting my weatherflow hub talking with the ISY with the weatherflowpoly. Prior to this there is an error in the log file: 2019-10-25 09:03:09,062 [Thread-1 ] [ERROR] Exception in thread Thread-1: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/threading.py", line 917, in _bootstrap_inner self.run() File "/usr/lib/python3.7/threading.py", line 865, in run self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs) File "./weatherflow.py", line 362, in udp_data s.bind(('0.0.0.0', self.udp_port)) OSError: [Errno 98] Address already in use 2019-10-25 09:03:09,063 [Thread-1 ] [WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.7/threading.py:951: ResourceWarning: unclosed <socket.socket fd=7, family=AddressFamily.AF_INET, type=SocketKind.SOCK_DGRAM, proto=0, laddr=('0.0.0.0', 0)> 2019-10-25 09:04:08,741 [Controller] [DEBUG] heartbeat hb=0 Thoughts? I commented in the git hub issue, but I'll repeat it here in case anyone else has this happen as well. That error indicates that some other application on the RPi is already listening for data from the hub. By default, only one application on the machine can listen for the data unless it is configured specifically to allow sharing with other applications. The node server is configured to allow sharing but it looks like something else is already running that's not configured to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecheng70 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 11 hours ago, bpwwer said: I commented in the git hub issue, but I'll repeat it here in case anyone else has this happen as well. That error indicates that some other application on the RPi is already listening for data from the hub. By default, only one application on the machine can listen for the data unless it is configured specifically to allow sharing with other applications. The node server is configured to allow sharing but it looks like something else is already running that's not configured to share. Figured it out... I had weewx running for my weatherflow and did not have the flag set to True for sharing. /etc/weewx/weewx.conf Updated the line under the [WeatherFlowUDP] section to be share_socket = True Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWareman Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 WeatherflowPCG is crashing on my PGC... 2019-10-26 21:56:26,216 [Interface ] [ERROR] MQTT Connection error: 'Controller' object has no attribute 'Station' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 209, in _startMqtt self._connect() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 234, in _connect self.inConfig(self.init) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 552, in inConfig watcher(self.config) File "./weatherflow.py", line 69, in process_config if self.Station == '': AttributeError: 'Controller' object has no attribute 'Station' I have 'Station' configured as a custom parameter. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it - no change. Is this a known issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @MWareman, We fixed the custom parameters not saving. That was fixed and it seems that something else is broken. Do you still have this problem? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWareman Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: @MWareman, We fixed the custom parameters not saving. That was fixed and it seems that something else is broken. Do you still have this problem? With kind regards, Michel I do - yes. But I don't think it's the parameter save issue. The parameter appears to be saving just fine now (Thank You!). I even see it being used in the log when the WeathewrFlowPGC Poly starts: 2019-10-27 15:12:52,846 [MainThread] [INFO ] PGC Interface 1.1.9 Starting... 2019-10-27 15:12:52,903 [MainThread] [INFO ] Running with WorkerID: weatherflowpgc-{uuid}-5 2019-10-27 15:12:52,904 [MainThread] [INFO ] First run: False 2019-10-27 15:12:52,904 [MainThread] [INFO ] Server file read into memory... 2019-10-27 15:12:52,905 [Interface ] [INFO ] Connecting to MQTT endpoint a3e3308oqn03e2-ats.iot.us-east-1.amazonaws.com... 2019-10-27 15:12:52,975 [MQTT ] [INFO ] MQTT Connected successfully to: a3e3308oqn03e2-ats.iot.us-east-1.amazonaws.com as weatherflowpgc-{uuid}-5_5_{guid} 2019-10-27 15:12:52,975 [MQTT ] [DEBUG] Sent Message: [prod/ns] : {"connected": true, "userId": "{guid}", "topic": "prod/ns/weatherflowpgc-{uuid}-5", "profileNum": "5", "id": "{uuid}"} 2019-10-27 15:12:53,038 [Interface ] [INFO ] MQTT Subscribed to topic: prod/ns/weatherflowpgc-{uuid}-5 2019-10-27 15:12:53,039 [NodeServer] [INFO ] Starting WeatherFlow Node Server 2019-10-27 15:12:53,039 [NodeServer] [INFO ] Sending customParams to Polyglot. 2019-10-27 15:12:53,040 [NodeServer] [DEBUG] Sent Message: [prod/ns] : {"customparams": {"Station": "3865"}, "userId": "{guid}", "topic": "prod/ns/weatherflowpgc-{uuid}-5", "profileNum": "5", "id": "{uuid}"} 2019-10-27 15:12:53,040 [NodeServer] [INFO ] Sending notices to Polyglot. 2019-10-27 15:12:53,041 [NodeServer] [DEBUG] Sent Message: [prod/ns] : {"notices": {}, "userId": "{guid}", "topic": "prod/ns/weatherflowpgc-{uuid}-5", "profileNum": "5", "id": "{uuid}"} 2019-10-27 15:12:53,044 [Interface ] [INFO ] in process_config 2019-10-27 15:12:53,044 [Interface ] [ERROR] MQTT Connection error: 'Controller' object has no attribute 'Station' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 209, in _startMqtt self._connect() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 234, in _connect self.inConfig(self.init) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/pgc_interface/pgc_interface.py", line 552, in inConfig watcher(self.config) File "./weatherflow.py", line 69, in process_config if self.Station == '': AttributeError: 'Controller' object has no attribute 'Station' I just don't know if this is a bug in the WeatherFlowPCG poly - or pgc_interface.py Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @MWareman, Thank you for the details. Looking into it now. With kind regards, Michel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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