JLOB Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I'm aware that there is little or no data from Smarthome regarding this sensor. (I think they're missing a bet. If the data were available to us, we'd likely purchase more of the sensors.) I'm looking for anyone who has experimented with (and hopefully recorded the results of) Motion Sensitivity and/or Battery Low threshold. I need to tweak these settings and am looking for a starting point. Thanks. JLOB Link to comment
larryllix Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Don't want to hijack your thread but on a similar note, the MS IIs are on sale at aartech.ca for a few more days, and I am wondering if there is any particular firmware versions I should be avoiding? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 @larryllix, Yes, you should avoid all versions! With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 11 hours ago, larryllix said: Don't want to hijack your thread but on a similar note, the MS IIs are on sale at aartech.ca for a few more days, and I am wondering if there is any particular firmware versions I should be avoiding? Hijack away. I wish I had an answer for you. Based on your comment, I'm gonna pick up a couple of more on the belief that we'll get some data soon. It IS a good product. J. Link to comment
jkraus Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 so, what do you use if MSII are not good, as original MS are no longer sold, are they? Link to comment
ELA Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 19 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: @larryllix, Yes, you should avoid all versions! With kind regards, Michel Michel, Would you kindly support that statement with just a little more detail? Jlob, Here is some limited information: https://forum.universal-devices.com/uploads/monthly_2019_06/Report5.JPG.0bffdcba5aa49eb54b6ea2b377b21c66.JPG Sorry it has been a while since I tried to link to a older post. This is just a portion of it. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 @ELA, It's based on the number of support tickets and the number of anomalies we get for MSII. Some don't report temp. Some report the battery incorrectly. Some go into a loop and you have to factory reset them. Some, bombard ISY. Some don't work. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Michel, So, just as you responded to the user regarding why you thought the MS II was than stellar, I received a low-battery notice for one of mine. I also had one last Friday and was pleased. The unit had been in service for about six months and I was wondering how long it would take to see the report. Since I dutifully changed the battery on Saturday, I was NOT pleased to see the second notice. Now either I’m missing something relative to resetting a battery indicator, or I’m beginning to see why you’re not enamored with this Insteon item. Any thoughts? Thanks. JLOB Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Hi @JLOB, Please try right mouse click on the low bat node | Query. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Michel Kohanim said: Hi @JLOB, Please try right mouse click on the low bat node | Query. With kind regards, Michel Michel, I actually did that yesterday on a whim. This morning, when there was no new alert, I wondered if it were an anomaly or an actual fix. Thanks for the confirmation. THAT'S the type of data I'd like to see consolidated somewhere vis-a-vis the MS II. J. Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 20 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: Hi @JLOB, Please try right mouse click on the low bat node | Query. With kind regards, Michel I thought I had done that the other day and was happy that the alert stopped. Premature, as it were. I got the alert again this morning. Looking at your note again, I'm not sure I know where/what the "low bat node | Query" is. Can you be more specific towards a soon-to-be octogenarian? Thank you. JLOB Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Hi @JLOB, Do you see a Low Bat node for your MSII in the navigation bar/device tree on the left? If so, right mouse click and then choose Query from the menu. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Michel, Actually, I thought I had responded to this the other day. Apparently, I didn’t “send”. I didn’t see anything that resembled “Low Bat node”, but then again I’m not sure where the “the navigation bar/device tree” is! Can you offer any help? Thanks. JLOB Link to comment
larryllix Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, JLOB said: Michel, Actually, I thought I had responded to this the other day. Apparently, I didn’t “send”. I didn’t see anything that resembled “Low Bat node”, but then again I’m not sure where the “the navigation bar/device tree” is! Can you offer any help? Thanks. JLOB See the list of devices on the left? That is your device tree, found under the "Main" tab in admin console. Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, larryllix said: See the list of devices on the left? That is your device tree, found under the "Main" tab in admin console. I get that. What I don't have is the "Low bat node" item. My ISY is 994I. I thought that should handle the Insteon devices. Thanks. JLOB https://drive.google.com/open?id=14lk_1sloGMhjgMNAFrZNJ8ysEyuO7pRr Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 @JLOB, I apologize. I confused this with MSI. I'll ask and get back to you. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
gzahar Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 If you scroll down in the MS II options, there is a setting to create a battery node. (none or one) Don't know if this node will work like the MS I sensors in resetting battery status as mine are USB powered. Link to comment
ELA Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 MSII Battery node test As posted earlier is my experience with the node Link to comment
JLOB Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 2:24 PM, gzahar said: If you scroll down in the MS II options, there is a setting to create a battery node. (none or one) Don't know if this node will work like the MS I sensors in resetting battery status as mine are USB powered. My options are "One" or "Two". Verbiage says it will set up a second node. Not at all sure what this is or if I need/want one? J. Link to comment
jec6613 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 16 hours ago, JLOB said: My options are "One" or "Two". Verbiage says it will set up a second node. Not at all sure what this is or if I need/want one? J. The second node is an Off node. Very much like how there's a wet and a dry node on leak sensors, it's just inverted. Link to comment
gzahar Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 My options are "One" or "Two". Verbiage says it will set up a second node. Not at all sure what this is or if I need/want one? J. Why don’t you right click the main sensor node and select group device. Maybe you have a low battery node but it didn’t get moved to the correct folder. Grouping the device should make it visible with the other nodes (if you do have one). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 @JLOB, As per @Chris, you just have to query the sensor node (if the battery node is not there). With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JLOB Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: @JLOB, As per @Chris, you just have to query the sensor node (if the battery node is not there). With kind regards, Michel I've done that several times. I keep getting the the battery alert e-mail each day. Getting frustrated. Thanks though. J. Link to comment
larryllix Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, JLOB said: I've done that several times. I keep getting the the battery alert e-mail each day. Getting frustrated. Thanks though. J. Why don't you post your program doing that here, and maybe somebody can find a hole in it? Right click and the program in the tree and select "copy to clipboard". Paste in a post. Link to comment
JLOB Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 hours ago, larryllix said: Why don't you post your program doing that here, and maybe somebody can find a hole in it? Right click and the program in the tree and select "copy to clipboard". Paste in a post. There's not much of a program. It just queries the sensor. The underlying problem is that the sensor doesn't reset with the new battery. Kitchen Motion Low Battery - [ID 008D][Parent 0001] If Time is 4:00:00AM And 'Kitchen / Kitchen Miscellaneous Sensor' Battery Level <= 10% Then Send Notification to 'XXX XXX' content 'Sensor Battery-1' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') J. Link to comment
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