User Folder creation within "My Lighting"

[chuckl]

I created a user folder by clicking on one of the devices within my Main Tab -> Network -> My Lighting folder. Instead of creating it under the My Lighting section, the ISY placed it at the same level as the My Lighting secion. I was able to move a device from My Lighting to my user folder.

 

If I continued to do this, in theory, the My Lighting section would become empty and have no devices contained within it.

 

Is this how folders are supposed to operate and can I do this without any adverse effects? If the answer is yes, why can't I delete (remove) the My Lighting folder if it's empty? Right now, it's permisssible to delete my user created folder with the device that has been moved from My Lighting. Should devices be able to be moved from within the system created My Lighting folder?

 

Chuck

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi Chuck,

 

Yes, you can do this till nothing is left under My Lighting.

 

The reason that you cannot delete My Lighting is because it's a root scene: when you want to do an All On/All Off, it's this scene which is called. In short, this is a system node to which all other nodes are attached.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

I created a user folder by clicking on one of the devices within my Main Tab -> Network -> My Lighting folder. Instead of creating it under the My Lighting section, the ISY placed it at the same level as the My Lighting secion. I was able to move a device from My Lighting to my user folder.

 

If I continued to do this, in theory, the My Lighting section would become empty and have no devices contained within it.

 

Is this how folders are supposed to operate and can I do this without any adverse effects? If the answer is yes, why can't I delete (remove) the My Lighting folder if it's empty? Right now, it's permisssible to delete my user created folder with the device that has been moved from My Lighting. Should devices be able to be moved from within the system created My Lighting folder?

 

Chuck

[chuckl]

Hello Michel,

 

Thank you for your answer. So essentially what you are stating is that if you remove a device from the My Lighting scene and place it in a user created folder, it will not be included in an All On or All Off command?

 

Chuck

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi Chuck,

 

No, that's not what I am saying and I do apologize for the confusion. In ISY itself, all devices are linked to My Lighting and thus All On/Off works regardless of which folder they have been moved to. In short, beyond cosmetic effects, folders have no logical functions: nodes are either devices or scenes.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Hello Michel,

 

Thank you for your answer. So essentially what you are stating is that if you remove a device from the My Lighting scene and place it in a user created folder, it will not be included in an All On or All Off command?

 

Chuck

[chuckl]

Two questions:

 

1) When I click on My Lighting, the device summary has "All On" and "All Off" buttons at the bottom of the GUI to issue these commands manually. How can a user issue an "All On" or "All Off" command to all the devices under My Lighting through a program?

 

2) I moved one of my devices from My Lighting to a user created folder. Now I want to move it back into My Lighting. When I try to drag the device back from the user folder to My Lighting, the ISY won't let me do that. The right-click menu offers no option either to move it back. The only way I can think of is to delete the device and recreate it but that will have deep consequences in Scenes and Programs. Any way to move it back?

 

Chuck

[MikeB]

1 - In the ACTIONS section of a Program, choose the scene "My Lighting" and your desired action (ON, OFF, QUERY).

 

2 - You should be able to right-click the device, and choose the option "Remove From Folder".

[chuckl]

Thanks for your help Mike! Both solutions you provided worked for me.