ThisIsTheWay Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 We have these two outdoor plugs. One has a switch controlling it for the Polaris pool jet booster cleaner. The other has a mechanical timer for the pool circulator system. Will there be any Insteon or other hardware with which I can control these very large appliances.? Additionally there is an oil heater that has a knob to turn it on to a variable level and off. Not sure what I could do there.
danbutter Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Hard to tell what the other end of that plug looks like, but I'm guessing it's a 120 volt appliance and you could a regular outdoor plug. Depends on the draw of your booster pump. If it is more than 120 volts you could use something like: https://www.insteon.com/load-controller But this needs to be installed in a weatherproof box. Or if you have zwave this comes in its own box: https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Z-Wave-Plus-Direct-Wire-Indoor-Outdoor-40-Amp-Lighting-Control-Smart-Switch-14285/306643391
TrojanHorse Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Here’s an option. https://www.elkproducts.com/product-catalog/elk-9200-heavy-duty-relay-contactorSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
apostolakisl Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Standard Insteon switchlinc on/off switch is rated for up to 1hp motor.
Brian H Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 The Insteon 240V Load Controllers {NO and NC} are now marked as Unavailable. So they may not be an option at this time.
MrBill Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Looks like a twist lock plug, I can't tell which NEMA configuration. Is it 240V or 120V? 240v 20 amp grounded is likely NEMA L6-20. if that's the case you could utilize a definite purpose contractor (big relay) with a 120v coil and then use the Insteon on/off device of your choice to power the coil.
larryllix Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 5 hours ago, MrBill said: Looks like a twist lock plug, I can't tell which NEMA configuration. Is it 240V or 120V? 240v 20 amp grounded is likely NEMA L6-20. if that's the case you could utilize a definite purpose contractor (big relay) with a 120v coil and then use the Insteon on/off device of your choice to power the coil. I did that with a few X10 Appliance plug-ins to run a big old 50A 240Vac mercury wetted solenoid I had hanging around. Worked great until I tried to turn it off. I am not sure which X10 Appliance model exploded on the first and which exploded on the second trial. A 20Kj MOV lolipop across the coil and another X10 Appliance module has been working for years now. You may want to consider using a MOV across any inductive coil fed by a contact. I am not sure how serious Insteon's hp rating is for their OnOff module / Appliance module. It can;t hurt either way for about $2.
ThisIsTheWay Posted October 4, 2020 Author Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Got a voltage meter. There are two motors. One is 3/4HP the other is 1HP. They are both 240v 20 amp. The First 3/4HP motor is the main pool circulator. The second 1HP motor is the booster for the polaris pool cleaner. There is a timer that controls both. Then additionally, the Polaris has an manual on off switch. There also looks to be a low voltage wire that goes from the timer to the pool heater which runs on oil. I am by no means an electrician. So, looking at the suggestions, I assume I will need to remove all that is here and employ three insteon on off switches that will control relays for each of the three devices. Would definitely need a really nice outdoor project box for this. Would be great to have a separate compartment for the on off switches so that there is no exposure to the other wires. Edited October 4, 2020 by uffy
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