Michel Kohanim Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 Hello all, Just so that we streamline version numbers (with ISY) and give less grief to Polyglot, please upgrade to 5.0.1: Hello all, To get started: - sudo pkg update - sudo pkg upgrade (this should upgrade your ISY to 5.0.1) _ sudo service udx restart - sudo service isy restart Admin Console: 1. Use the Launcher 2. Click on the Add button and then enter the https://x.y.z.w:8443/desc or http://x.y.z.w:8080/desc where x.y.z.w is the IP address for your Polisy 3. Click on the Polisy row and choose LAN (direct from Polisy) or Cloud (from www). This will bring up the Admin Console 4. If you are using INSTEON, since INSTEON is disabled by default: - Admin Console | Configuration Tab | System - Check INSTEON Support checkbox - Click on the Save button and then Reboot button (restarts the ISY service) Polyglot Settings: 1. Address/Hostname: localhost 2. Port: 8080 3. Username/Password for your ISY 4. Use HTTPS: uncheckedNOTE: Polyglot does NOT allow connection to HTTPS sites with self signed certs. For now, please only use port 8080 and localhost (do not use the IP address). Fixes: 1. Not connecting to Polyglot 2. Network module is now enabled by default so that you no longer need the ISY Portal Module Enhancements: 1. OpenADR support by default With kind regards, Michel
MrBill Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 Worked for me! Excellent. I ordered a 2413u for testing.... but it will be the end of the week at least.
MrBill Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 @Michel Kohanim How is location/time zone being determined? Time is correct. Sunset is not. Sunrise is not. they should be: (this screenshot from ISY-994 and is correct.) There is no change location button. Also the City blanked out is a nearby larger metro area. My hope is that we will soon be able to use exact longitude/latitude as we can in the current production models. Is the Change Location button coming back?
MrBill Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, asbril said: Oh boy..... Now I have the polisy shows in the launcher but I have lost my ISY . NONE of my nodes show and my username / pw have reverted to admin/admin None of your nodes show because ISY on Polisy is a different ISY. BTW: There is no Z-wave adapter available yet for ISY on Polisy 1
MrBill Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, asbril said: I get it..... It is just for Geeks Now I need to get my ISY back on this computer and am working at it. Just re-add the info for it, copy write it down from 'finder' on your computer that it works, then press the add button in finder on the computer it's not working on. 1
Michel Kohanim Posted July 19, 2021 Author Posted July 19, 2021 @MrBill, Date and time comes from Polisy (under the System Menu). We still haven't added support for custom locations. With kind regards, Michel
MrBill Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michel Kohanim said: @MrBill, Date and time comes from Polisy (under the System Menu). We still haven't added support for custom locations. With kind regards, Michel That makes sense for time, but where in the world are the sunrise and sunset times from? they are a weird hour and a half or so wrong, yet they should be very close for the ??detected?? city. I'm not sure how it got City, because this is what's set in Polisy, which is a different City and state than the one I blanked out, and sunrise/sunset isn't correct for chicago either.
Michel Kohanim Posted July 19, 2021 Author Posted July 19, 2021 @MrBill, Definitely a bug. Seems to be isolated to CT and ET. Very strange. Looking into it. With kind regards, Michel 1
bgrubb1 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Similar issue here in AZ Polisy set to Phx (no DST) ISY reports LA ...Barry
garybixler Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 All good here. Just one small issue. I need to use Admin Console (Cloud) from the launcher even though it is using the local IP address. If I use Admin Console (Lan) the launcher just hangs and needs to be restarted. Using port 8080. I did reinstall the launcher but no difference. Also just ordered the 2413u. Thanks Gary 1
DAlter01 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) Being only an ISY user, am I to understand that a Polisy can now replace/emulate the ISY as a next gen version of the ISY? I do need Z-wave on my ISY and I believe I read in a post above it does not yet support Z-wave through the ISY emulation? Sorry if these are rudimentary questions, I've mostly not paid attention to discussion on the Polisy as the ISY has been able to do everything I've attempted to accomplish and I also read Polisy was not able to incorporate the ISY functions and migrate programming so it didn't draw me in. Sounds like it is time to start looking at it as an ISY replacement/upgrade? Edited July 20, 2021 by DAlter01
DaveStLou Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: Polyglot Settings: 1. Address/Hostname: localhost 2. Port: 8080 3. Username/Password for your ISY 4. Use HTTPS: uncheckedNOTE: Polyglot does NOT allow connection to HTTPS sites with self signed certs. For now, please only use port 8080 and localhost (do not use the IP address). @Michel Kohanim I haven't changed the default Username/Password which works when I login through Admin Console but I am getting this in PG3 when I attempt to connect to Polisy ISY: I'm not sure of the actual status since it warns credentials are wrong but then reports the database was retrieved. When I attempt to install a nodeserver in the Polisy ISY, I get the following: Also note, in the attached error log, that the year is logging as 1951. Year is showing correctly in Polisy ISY. ISY Error Log.v5.0.1__Tue 2021.07.20 06.46.08 AM.txt
jmpnjimbob Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) This is cool. But I've got a few questions. Is this upgrade able to be downloaded and installed when going through Polisy and using the check for updates option? I'm not sure if my abilities are quite up to the task otherwise. Second, I've seen others mention the Insteon 2413U PLM USB interface, do I need one? (I'm assuming I will, eventually at least) And finally, I've got a Polisy Pro, but it does not have a Z-Wave module correct? Is there a supported Z-Wave module for it? I've got a few Z-Wave devices and need the support. If there isn't a Z-Wave device/module yet will these devices be supported through the ISY to the Polisy? Thanks. Edited July 20, 2021 by jmpnjimbob
MrBill Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, jmpnjimbob said: This is cool. But I've got a few questions. Is this upgrade able to be downloaded and installed when going through Polisy and using the check for updates option? I'm not sure if my abilities are quite up to the task otherwise. Second, I've seen others mention the Insteon 2413U PLM USB interface, do I need one? (I'm assuming I will, eventually at least) And finally, I've got a Polisy Pro, but it does not have a Z-Wave module correct? Is there a supported Z-Wave module for it? I've got a few Z-Wave devices and need the support. If there isn't a Z-Wave device/module yet will these devices be supported through the ISY to the Polisy? Thanks. 1) not yet... it's still alpha, manual shell commands are being used today, when it's ready for prime time the menu commands will likely work. 2) ISY on Polisy is capable of either the 2413s or the 2413u. to use the 2413s with ISY on Polisy you need the serial cable that arrived in the 2413s box originally (hopefully you kept it). 3) z-wave will be available soon, they haven't finalized the choice yet tho. We can only assume it will be USB. 1
jmpnjimbob Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MrBill said: 1) not yet... it's still alpha, manual shell commands are being used today, when it's ready for prime time the menu commands will likely work. 2) ISY on Polisy is capable of either the 2413s or the 2413u. to use the 2413s with ISY on Polisy you need the serial cable that arrived in the 2413s box originally (hopefully you kept it). 3) z-wave will be available soon, they haven't finalized the choice yet tho. We can only assume it will be USB. Crud. I'm excited to see this happening and would love to give it a go . . . but even though I understand what is happening when you're talking about connecting to the Polisy through shell commands I'm not as experienced as others here and don't want to screw anything up! So . . . I'll be waiting a bit longer for things to be ironed out more before giving this a go. Thanks for the info. And the serial cable should be in the original box in the closet somewhere (I hope).
mmb Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said: Hello all, Just so that we streamline version numbers (with ISY) and give less grief to Polyglot, please upgrade to 5.0.1: Hello all, To get started: - sudo pkg update - sudo pkg upgrade (this should upgrade your ISY to 5.0.1) _ sudo service udx restart - sudo service isy restart Admin Console: 1. Use the Launcher 2. Click on the Add button and then enter the https://x.y.z.w:8443/desc or http://x.y.z.w:8080/desc where x.y.z.w is the IP address for your Polisy 3. Click on the Polisy row and choose LAN (direct from Polisy) or Cloud (from www). This will bring up the Admin Console 4. If you are using INSTEON, since INSTEON is disabled by default: - Admin Console | Configuration Tab | System - Check INSTEON Support checkbox - Click on the Save button and then Reboot button (restarts the ISY service) Polyglot Settings: 1. Address/Hostname: localhost 2. Port: 8080 3. Username/Password for your ISY 4. Use HTTPS: uncheckedNOTE: Polyglot does NOT allow connection to HTTPS sites with self signed certs. For now, please only use port 8080 and localhost (do not use the IP address). Fixes: 1. Not connecting to Polyglot 2. Network module is now enabled by default so that you no longer need the ISY Portal Module Enhancements: 1. OpenADR support by default With kind regards, Michel Hi Michel, I dug out my Polisy device (straight from UDI) and followed the SSH commands and updated per your instructions. I double checked and all pkgs are up to date. The ISY service restart shows as not found and confirmed there is no reference to ISY in rc.d. Am I missing a ISY pkg? Thanks!
MrBill Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, mmb said: Hi Michel, I dug out my Polisy device (straight from UDI) and followed the SSH commands and updated per your instructions. I double checked and all pkgs are up to date. The ISY service restart shows as not found and confirmed there is no reference to ISY in rc.d. Am I missing a ISY pkg? Thanks! If your OS isn't yet updated that's likely the problem, include the results of uname -a in order for @Michel Kohanim to give the best answer. Also Michel, you should probably edit a prerequisite into your posts showing how to load ISY on Polisy.
Michel Kohanim Posted July 20, 2021 Author Posted July 20, 2021 @DaveStLou, Are you using http or https? All, 5.0.2 is available ... fixes sunrise/sunset: With kind regards, Michel 1
DaveStLou Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michel Kohanim said: @DaveStLou, Are you using http or https? I don't know what changed but It is working now. To answer your question http. Edited July 20, 2021 by DaveStLou
BamBamF16 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 I successfully upgraded to 5.0.2 (after getting everything up to date earlier). However, I have only successfully gotten the admin console to open once. I set my username/password and set the clock to 24 hours. However, I doesn't start anymore. And when you click on "Admin Console (LAN)" it locks up the launcher and you have to close that. Running from a Mac with no issue with ISY device in the past. Thanks, Jeff
garybixler Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Try clicking on "Admin Console (Cloud)". I'm doing that for now to keep the launcher from locking up. It works for local.
mmb Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrBill said: If your OS isn't yet updated that's likely the problem, include the results of uname -a in order for @Michel Kohanim to give the best answer. Also Michel, you should probably edit a prerequisite into your posts showing how to load ISY on Polisy. Here you go, thanks! FreeBSD polisy 12.2-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p6 r369564 POLISY amd64 I didn't realize loading the ISY was not included in the pkgs. Edited July 20, 2021 by mmb
BamBamF16 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 From another forum: Yes but please do make sure: 1. Your are already on 12.2 (uname -a) 2. Make sure udx is on 2.1.2_1 (pkg info udx). If not, upgrade udx (sudo pkg upgrade udx) 3. Run cat /usr/local/etc/udx.d/static/update13.sh | sudo bash This will upgrade you to 13, upgrade Python to 3.8, and then goes through all your node servers and upgrades them to use Python 3.8. There will be one more massive upgrade which may need manual intervention (signing/verifying the bootloader). Once that's done, upgrades should be as smooth as ISY. With kind regards, Michel 1
mmb Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, bambamf16 said: From another forum: Yes but please do make sure: 1. Your are already on 12.2 (uname -a) 2. Make sure udx is on 2.1.2_1 (pkg info udx). If not, upgrade udx (sudo pkg upgrade udx) 3. Run cat /usr/local/etc/udx.d/static/update13.sh | sudo bash This will upgrade you to 13, upgrade Python to 3.8, and then goes through all your node servers and upgrades them to use Python 3.8. There will be one more massive upgrade which may need manual intervention (signing/verifying the bootloader). Once that's done, upgrades should be as smooth as ISY. With kind regards, Michel Very helpful thanks. Can you point me to the one more massive upgrade?
BamBamF16 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, mmb said: Very helpful thanks. Can you point me to the one more massive upgrade? I don't think that has happened yet. Jeff
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