willclarke Posted March 20 Posted March 20 I’m starting from scratch with a new EISY and ZWave doggle (was shipped today). I had HomeSeer running my house and garage and I’m finished with it, had enough. I have approx 60 Zwave switches in the house and 12 in the garage. All Zooz devices. Is there a way to set up a second Zwave doggle in the garage over LAN so i will have a second network just for the garage? Quote
lilyoyo1 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 You can add long as you build it a strong mesh in order for everything to work properly. The networks will not repeat signals to each other Quote
Guy Lavoie Posted March 20 Posted March 20 You can't have two Zwave adapters or networks on a single eisy. What would be the advantage of having a separate Zwave network for the garage? Quote
willclarke Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 (edited) The garage may be too far from the house for one Z-Wave network to reach it. That's why I was thinking of two networks. I didn't know the EISY could only have one network. Edited March 20 by willclarke Quote
Guy Lavoie Posted March 20 Posted March 20 That problem comes up every now and then. It seems no one has created a zwave extender that could work over ethernet, or something similar. It would be handy as a distance bridge, with one module at each end that could convert zwave to ethernet and vice versa. Assuming you have wired ethernet across that gap, you'd need a eisy at each end, or even find an older isy994i that has a zwave board in it, that you could then control via REST commands from your in-house eisy. Quote
willclarke Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 I was wondering if i could use a hub, Ethernet to USB hub with a usb doggle plugged in. Not sure if the EISY would recognize it. Quote
Solution Techman Posted March 20 Solution Posted March 20 @willclarke Why not use one Zwave network and add two 800 series range extenders/amplifiers, one in the garage and one in the house. Zooz 800 Series Z-Wave Plus Range Extender ZAC38 - The Smartest House Quote
willclarke Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 @Techman Thank you! If these work, that’s an easy solution. Quote
Techman Posted March 20 Posted March 20 How far is the garage from the house. The extenders have a line of sight range of 400 feet. Mount them as high up as possible, i.e. if you have a 2 story house plug it in the 2nd story The also have backup batteries, so if you have a power failure in the garage it will notify you. If your eisy is on a UPS then you could also get a notfication if the house lost powe. Install the extender in the house first, then the garage. Quote
lilyoyo1 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 15 hours ago, willclarke said: @Techman Thank you! If these work, that’s an easy solution. This may not work depending on what series devices that you have. The signal that it repeats will still be the same signal sent from your controller. If you have 500 series devices, your eisy will send out the signal using 500 series protocol/range. The range will be determined by 500 series max range... Ditto for 700 series (Eisy does not support zwave LR) Quote
willclarke Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: This may not work depending on what series devices that you have. The signal that it repeats will still be the same signal sent from your controller. If you have 500 series devices, your eisy will send out the signal using 500 series protocol/range. The range will be determined by 500 series max range... Ditto for 700 series (Eisy does not support zwave LR) Thanks @lilyoyo1. Yesterday you said the eisy could support two zwave networks. How would I accomplish this, what hardware would i need? I have one LAN network for the house and garage. Can I use an ethernet USB hub and zwave doggle in the garage, would the eisy recognize it? Quote
Techman Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Being that the 800 series repeaters/amplifiers have more power and bandwidth they should be able to communicate with each other taking advantage of those attributes. Quote
lilyoyo1 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 16 minutes ago, willclarke said: Thanks @lilyoyo1. Yesterday you said the eisy could support two zwave networks. How would I accomplish this, what hardware would i need? I have one LAN network for the house and garage. Can I use an ethernet USB hub and zwave doggle in the garage, would the eisy recognize it? I was saying you can have separate 2 networks in a home. My apologies for not clarifying that you would need 2 separate controllers for that. Even if it were possible with a single controller, range would still be an issue. Technically you can have 2 eisys talk to each other using variables and network resources but that's not something I've ever entertained due to the added complexity of the system. There are some on here who have done so but I can't say what steps they took or the end results long term. 13 minutes ago, Techman said: Being that the 800 series repeaters/amplifiers have more power and bandwidth they should be able to communicate with each other taking advantage of those attributes. The problem is repeaters repeat the signal that is being sent. If it receives a 300 series signal the 300 series devices wouldn't be able to translate an 800 series message. This has been like this since the beginning of zwave. There are plenty of articles online on how zwave mesh works to confirm this. Edited March 21 by lilyoyo1 Quote
willclarke Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 @lilyoyo1 Understood. I'd rather not have 2 separate controllers. I'm going to try the repeaters and see what devices I'm success with. Thank you again for your responses. Quote
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