Pool pump control

[grossmd]

Looking for suggestions to control my outdoor pool equipment. Currently have the pumps on older Insteon 240 V controllers but they’re showing signs of age. Looking for a switch that can be used with Eisy. I saw a enbrighten zwave but seems it may be discontinued. Any ideas?

[Guy Lavoie]

For something like that, I'd use a regular appliance module to turn on a separate high capacity relay or contactor. It's more trouble because you'd need to make a separate enclosure, but it would be more robust. Pool pumps have a high starting load and draw lots of current. 

[grossmd]

Yes, that’s definitely my back up but I was hoping for a plug and play solution

[Brian H]

Turning on a high capacity relay does sound like a go way to go.

Elk made a heavy duty 220VAC relay in an enclosure. With a 120VAC relay coil in an enclosure. Controlled by a On/Off module or any other similar module. Not sure if it would be anything you can use.

https://www.elkproducts.com/product/heavy-duty-relay-contactor-9200/

Insteon sales site shows a 220VAC controller.

https://www.insteon.com/load-controller

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[grossmd]

Yes, the old Insteon you linked is what I have up now but getting towards end of life. 
 

I found this:   https://a.co/d/eorhHXy
if anyone had any experience with give a shout please. 

[Brian H]

Then you have a chance to get a different module if you care to.

I do know early ones had a history of failing and I don't know if they ever fixed it.

[drprm1]

2 hours ago, grossmd said:

Yes, the old Insteon you linked is what I have up now but getting towards end of life. 
 

I found this:   https://a.co/d/eorhHXy
if anyone had any experience with give a shout please. 

I have had one of these Aeotec controllers going on five years. Solid

[grossmd]

Perfect! My zwave network pretty stable so probably the way I’ll go.
 

[drprm1]

2 minutes ago, grossmd said:

Perfect! My zwave network pretty stable so probably the way I’ll go.
 

Yes, the old Insteon you linked is what I have up now but getting towards end of life. 
 

I found this:   https://a.co/d/eorhHXy
if anyone had any experience with give a shout please. 

To clarify. My controller is on a large air compressor which it controls perfectly. It is not on a scheduled daily program for a pool pump which I would consider more critical. I have thought about using one for my pool pump but the timer it has is fine for now.  Have no reason to believe it won’t work. 

[grossmd]

Thanks for clarifying. I have used other devices from them with good results and my pump schedule is simple so hopefully it will work.

[apostolakisl]

One of my pool pumps uses LV signaling to set the 4 speeds.  I use a CAI webcontrol board which outputs 5v on the 4 signal wires to set the speeds.  CAI has a plugin node for ISY.  I wrote some programs and created some shortcuts in my pool favorites folder to create "radio buttons" where you can hit any of the speeds and it will turn off any other speed that might already be on.

If your pump is just a simple on/off because it either is getting power or not, then I would use a high current relay to switch the pump that uses 120vac for the coil and then use an outdoor Insteon switch to control the relay.  That is how I control an aerator for my pond.

[gklimo]

I installed an Insteon Heavy Duty 120-277V Load Controller Assembly 1470 from Innovative Home Systems to programmatically control when my pool filter runs. It works great.

Mine has an oversized 40AMP relay, which should last a very long time. I also purchased the optional switch cover.

https://innovativehomesys.com/products/wifi-heavy-duty-120-277-volt-40-amp-automated-load-transfer-assembly-1470

I chose the Insteon version since my Insteon environment has been rock solid for many years. But it's also available in Wi-Fi, Z-Wave and HomeKit versions if preferred.

Here's a couple of pictures for reference.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/2/2025 at 5:33 PM, grossmd said:

Looking for suggestions to control my outdoor pool equipment. Currently have the pumps on older Insteon 240 V controllers but they’re showing signs of age. Looking for a switch that can be used with Eisy. I saw a enbrighten zwave but seems it may be discontinued. Any ideas?

My son was in the same situation, so we made one using a 120v/240v contactor, a 120v zwave plugin switch and a small utility box all purchased on Amazon. Assembly took about an hour. We adjusted electrical cables to suit.

I have an Enbrighten, functionally it's the same as we built.

On 4/3/2025 at 9:12 AM, drprm1 said:

I have had one of these Aeotec controllers going on five years. Solid

I saw those controllers but they looked so light weight for the amp load they're controlling.

Interesting, thanks!

[grossmd]

This is perfect! Thanks

[apostolakisl]

That looks like a nice all-in-one package.  I could make one that does the same thing for less than $100 including the Insteon switch, but if you don't want to be troubled . .. Of course you still have to install the thing so you kind of are already being troubled.  The contactors for HVAC equipment would be perfect for this and are only about $10 and a nice waterproof j-box can be had for about $15.  The make these j-box's with mounting plates in the back which is real nice so you can just screw down all your stuff with no fuss and have it look all nice and neat.  It wouldn't have the switch on the outside though, you would have to open the door, but they come with hinged doors, so no big deal.