Viewing Programs from a backup without restoring it

[apostolakisl]

Is there anyway to view programs in a backup without restoring the backup to an ISY unit?  I deleted a whole series of programs about a year ago and want them back now.  Restoring that backup, however would get rid of a bunch of changes I want.  I suppose I could make a backup, restore the old one, copy the programs and the restore the backup I just made.  However, I really don't want to do that.  Seems like more opportunities for things to go wrong.

[IndyMike]

You can view the programs in a backup.  Identifying a specific program and restoring it is rather painful.

1. Copy one of your backups to a separate directory in case things go bad.  The 1st screenshot below is the result of an UnZip of one of my backups.  
2. Use 7Zip or something similar to open your backup .Zip.  Windows explorer will NOT work.  You will see the file "uuid.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.zip".  Unzip this to your directory.
3. Open the "uuid.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.zip" file in 7Zip as well.  Extract the CONF folder.
4.   Within the CONF folder you will find a D2D folder.  This contains your program files.  
5. The "*.PGM" files are in XML format.  Your challenge will be to identify which file you want to restore (not easy).

You can export your current programs to try to determine the program numbering (ID) and what is missing.  Beware that Exporting the entire "My Programs Folder" produces an XML file that can't be interrogated by any XML viewer that I have found (format error).  I have been successful in exporting individual program folders (non-nested).

I'm quite sure this is not the answer you were hoping for.  Unfortunately, it's all I can offer.

 

Directory showing Backup Zip, UUID Zip, and CONF file folder

CONF Folder contents:

 

D2D Folder Containing Program Files

000A.PGM Contents

 

Edited Friday at 02:01 PM by IndyMike

[apostolakisl]

@IndyMike  Thanks for all that info.  Now I'm dealing with a dead polisy after a lightening strike.  My eisy which I ordered before the strike is coming tomorrow.  

I seem to have neglected to make a recent backup of PG3, so now I have that headache as well. 

[IndyMike]

@apostolakisl, that's rough.  Sorry to hear.

My only comment(s) would be - check the power supply to see if it fried, and check the SDcard for corruption.  Two easy ways to recover your configuration.

[apostolakisl]

9 minutes ago, IndyMike said:

@apostolakisl, that's rough.  Sorry to hear.

My only comment(s) would be - check the power supply to see if it fried, and check the SDcard for corruption.  Two easy ways to recover your configuration.

I opened my polISY and found it has a baby SATA SSD, not an SD card.  Not sure what I can plug that into.  Perhaps eisy has the same and perhaps it will boot?  And it isn't the power supply, I already tried that.  Polisy is just dead, no noise, no lights, no nothing.  The board has no physical evidence of any issues, don't have any idea what would be fried.  Same thing with the two control boards I removed from two of my HVAC units.  Both look normal.  Replaced one of them already and got one of the two units functional again.  So many issues to deal with.  Hopefully Spectrum will get me my new modem today, it is also just flat out dead.

[IndyMike]

33 minutes ago, apostolakisl said:

I opened my polISY and found it has a baby SATA SSD, not an SD card.  Not sure what I can plug that into.  Perhaps eisy has the same and perhaps it will boot?  And it isn't the power supply, I already tried that.  Polisy is just dead, no noise, no lights, no nothing.  The board has no physical evidence of any issues, don't have any idea what would be fried.  Same thing with the two control boards I removed from two of my HVAC units.  Both look normal.  Replaced one of them already and got one of the two units functional again.  So many issues to deal with.  Hopefully Spectrum will get me my new modem today, it is also just flat out dead.

Sorry, thought you were still using the ISY994.  I don't know what format the SSD uses.  There are posts on how to re-flash the SSD: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/42174-polisy-ssd-image-restore-process-for-a-corrupt-ssd/.

I also don't know if the EISY can read the information on the SSD.  I would try a mSata to USB adapter and a PC first to see if it registers.  

[larryllix]

7 hours ago, apostolakisl said:

I opened my polISY and found it has a baby SATA SSD, not an SD card.  Not sure what I can plug that into.  Perhaps eisy has the same and perhaps it will boot?  And it isn't the power supply, I already tried that.  Polisy is just dead, no noise, no lights, no nothing.  The board has no physical evidence of any issues, don't have any idea what would be fried.  Same thing with the two control boards I removed from two of my HVAC units.  Both look normal.  Replaced one of them already and got one of the two units functional again.  So many issues to deal with.  Hopefully Spectrum will get me my new modem today, it is also just flat out dead.

The adapters are dirt cheap and work well.
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