Mark Sanctuary Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 Moved from the "Request for a new topic" post... This morning I pulled a SignalLinc from the opposite end of my home and plugged it in place of my PLM. It tested to be in communication with and on the other phase of the SignalLinc about 6 feet away in the same room. I plugged the PLM into the pass-through outlet of the SignalLinc and my PLM went from about 70% communication to nearly 100%. I will get a pair of refurbished Access Points Friday and will retest. We are starting to sing Rand
sfhutchi Posted July 1, 2007 Posted July 1, 2007 Interesting. I am thinking about doing the same thing. With the ISY I have had significant communication problems that I have not had (and still don't have with Houselinc Desktop and the PLC... on another side of the house). I understand that the PLM's power output is less than the PLC. Not sure if this is the reason because there have been times when the ISY has had no trouble communicating to all devices. It has been about 4 days now with about 50% communication. I have a filterlinc, the PLM, and a lamplinc (for testing... and possibly repeating of signals) stacked on the same outlet. Hasn't helped any.. but I can reliably communicate to the LampLinc. Thanks for the pointer on the SignalLinc.
Sub-Routine Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 I tried the LampLinc as well after reading about an ApplianceLinc helping. Didn't mean a thing to the PLM. The SignalLinc is the golden ticket, at least in my case. Thank you, Rand
sfhutchi Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 Well.... It appears that it has helped me also. I removed the lamplinc and replaced it with the Signalinc. I need to also add back the LampLinc to double-check. I need to make sure that I can 'turn this on and off'. The frustrating part is that I initially had no communication problems with the ISY and the PLM. I understand that it is possible that I was at the limit of an acceptable signal to many switches, but there seem to be no tools available to diagnose this. Also, I believe that the PLM needs to be improved because it seems MUCH less reliable than the PLC that I have worked with successfully from day 1.
Sub-Routine Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 The PLCs I have are more reliable than the PLM I have. That is an issue for SmartHome though. I have had 100% ISY over the last few days with the PLM plugged into the SignalLinc. The ISY and PLM is now my Insteon Interface All the Insteon software I wrote is now history. Thank you, Universal Devices, for the wonderful Insteon device! Rand
sfhutchi Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I was/am in a similar situation. I have the PLM SignaLinc combo and it seemed to help for a day or two. Now I am back to most of my devices not communicating reliably with the ISY. A PLC with Houselinc Desktop continues to communicate reliably. I am not sure what else to try since there are no tools to troubleshoot the Insteon signals.
Mark Sanctuary Posted July 4, 2007 Author Posted July 4, 2007 How many Insteon devices do you have? I noticed that all mine started working better the more switches I added because each switch also acts as a repeater.
GPG Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Just to provide additional information: I have been running over a month now. I run my both ISY and PLC at all times , since I still have 2 x10 units active. My ISY reliability is 99%+, which is about the same experience I had with my PLM. Even my X10 units are reliable. This is probably because my lines appear to be fairly noise free and my house is not that large (3BR High Ranch). My PLM firmware is 4a and I am running two SignalLinks. I have ordered two Access Point refurbished replacements for my two SignalLinks and will be installing them when they arrive. Nothing is broken yet, but I am curious whether I should be thinking about getting the 5.2 firmware upgrade for the PLM, especially since I will be moving over the the Access Points.
Michel Kohanim Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 The PLCs I have are more reliable than the PLM I have. That is an issue for SmartHome though. I have had 100% ISY over the last few days with the PLM plugged into the SignalLinc. The ISY and PLM is now my Insteon Interface All the Insteon software I wrote is now history. Thank you, Universal Devices, for the wonderful Insteon device! Rand Rand, We couldn't have done it without your help and guidance. Thanks so very much for everything. With kind regards,
Michel Kohanim Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Just to provide additional information: I have been running over a month now. I run my both ISY and PLC at all times , since I still have 2 x10 units active. My ISY reliability is 99%+, which is about the same experience I had with my PLM. Even my X10 units are reliable. This is probably because my lines appear to be fairly noise free and my house is not that large (3BR High Ranch). My PLM firmware is 4a and I am running two SignalLinks. I have ordered two Access Point refurbished replacements for my two SignalLinks and will be installing them when they arrive. Nothing is broken yet, but I am curious whether I should be thinking about getting the 5.2 firmware upgrade for the PLM, especially since I will be moving over the the Access Points. sfhutchi, We are thinking about adding some rudimentary tools to check the traffic within the next few days. I will let you know as soon as we have something worth sharing. GPG, This is excellent. We have not yet fully tested ISY with 52 so I am not sure whether or not it's a good idea. This said, however, since you can replace PLMs quite easily (but you have to have a lot of patience), I would be very interested in your experiences if you so choose to do so. Thanks and with kind regards,
Sub-Routine Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 I replaced my SignalLincs with AccessPoints last Saturday (07/07/07). Everything is working fine. One difference is the APs do not have a pass-through outlet so one is now plugged on top of the PLM instead of the other way around. I haven't noticed any unusual heat or other problems. Oddly, the second AP would not confirm linking from the same outlet as the second SignalLinc. It is now in another room and doing fine. Rand
Michel Kohanim Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 Rand, Thanks so very much for the information. I am sure a lot of our users will benefit from your experiments! With kind regards, Michel I replaced my SignalLincs with AccessPoints last Saturday (07/07/07). Everything is working fine. One difference is the APs do not have a pass-through outlet so one is now plugged on top of the PLM instead of the other way around. I haven't noticed any unusual heat or other problems. Oddly, the second AP would not confirm linking from the same outlet as the second SignalLinc. It is now in another room and doing fine. Rand
GPG Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 I have been running my PLM 52 now for several days now and have not seen any ill effects. This is with SignaLincs, my AP's should arrive in a few days.
Michel Kohanim Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 GPG, This is excellent news and thanks so very much for sharing it with us. I have a quick question: did you do a Restore PLM after changing your PLMs? Thanks and with kind regards, Michel I have been running my PLM 52 now for several days now and have not seen any ill effects. This is with SignaLincs, my AP's should arrive in a few days.
GPG Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 I have a quick question: did you do a Restore PLM after changing your PLMs? Yes I did and overall it was a very simple process to complete.
Michel Kohanim Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 GPG, Thank you! I have a quick question: did you do a Restore PLM after changing your PLMs? Yes I did and overall it was a very simple process to complete.
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